When Grove Street started in 1969 the colors was orange not black or white because Grove Street was Orange Grove back then. Tony "OG Sugar" Stout and Victor "Big Devil" Oates started Orange Grove, orange got dropped from the name later because the street's name was changed to just Grove Street and also due to the formation of the "Families". Sugar and Big Devil started it, then brought OGF into the Families alliance with a couple other gangs. Sweet was born in 1966, so all of this happened when he was a kid, but by the time of GTA SA he was "the man" in the hood but Sweet didn't start Grove Street. Even though Rockstar may have made it seem like he did. Tony Stout, Victor Oates, Jerry Barkley, Robby Rob, Gary Rogers, and some other people put "Families" together, Ballas came around 1971. That's the history of FAMILIES.
Also, Grove Street is PIRU. If you notice, Grove Street gang tags don't have "Families" in it but Temple Drive and Seville always tagged up Families. That's because Grove is PIRU and PIRU is Blood but yet distinct. Grove Street is Families but is distinct at the same time with its own identity. To be specific, in 1992 after I started taking over more turf Grove Street got split into two sections, one further west in Verona Beach and one in Ganton so you had a West Side in Verona and an East Side Grove Street in Ganton. Lueders Park Piru is the influence of my set (EAST SIDE GANTON GROVE STREET).
In Ganton we basically functioned similar to the Lueders Park Pirus, Temple Drive functioned similar to the Bounty Hunter Bloods and Seville Boulevard functioned similar to Denver Lane Bloods. Grove Street in Verona functioned like West Side Pirus. So if there's a real life gang that my hood functioned similar to, I'm telling you it was Leuders Park Piru/LPP.
GROVE STREET - LEUDERS PARK PIRU and WEST SIDE PIRU
TEMPLE DRIVE - BOUNTY HUNTER BLOODS
SEVILLE BOULEVARD - DENVER LANE BLOODS
Ballas got their own influence, the oldest Balla hood I know was Rollin Heights and they came off Rollin 30s Crips. Front Yards came off Rollin 60's, Kilo Tray came off Eight Tray Gangster Crip, and Temple Drive Ballas came off of Grape Street Crip.
But I'll reiterate, Sweet, Ryder, Big Smoke, and my hood came off of Leuders Park Piru and its like that.