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Poll: Savage or Hunter (167 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Hunter (103 votes [61.68%])

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#1

Posted 03 September 2017 - 10:13 AM Edited by GTP_Monkey, 06 September 2017 - 02:37 AM.

So we have had a taste of the Hunter in its standard form. 

 

What do you guys think ? I find it not too stable it bobs and swerves a lot and is nowhere near as stable as the Savage. I also find the mission to blow up the merryweather jamming beacons is faster with the savage using canons In fact since the Buff on the Savage I think its come of age and is now my go to Helo for most of the new source missions.

 

What do you guys think 

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:40 AM

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:43 AM

Oh defo the Savage. I always use the savage during those Jammer missions. Infact, I also use it for most missions. I mean, who needs bombs when you can just wipe the ground with explosive cannons? The Savage, Hydra and Lazer really do make the new vehicles obsolete. Sure, the new vehicles have 'coutermeasures' but you can't counter the explosive cannons that the old vehicles have. It's unfortunate that this update put a huge emphasis on aircrafts but failed to dethrone the jets. The skies of Los Santos will always be ruled by some griefers in jets.

Don't buy any of the new stuff based on how much you can use 'em for because the Savage, Hydra and Lazer will always win. If you want a new aircraft then just pick one based on how much fun you'll have with it. I got myself a Tula.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:50 AM

I find it not too stable it bobs and swerves a lot and is nowhere near as stable as the Savage

 

Strange, because I find it MORE stable that the Savage actually. It doesn't feel that heavy. I can perform rough turns with it. It feels like SuperVolito

 

It has flares so you are safe with the homing noobs

It has bombs. so you can pretty much fly above the head and keep dropping them (you need to practice bombing without a camera though)

And it has the freaking Barrage with a surprisingly long distance!

 

Hunter is the way to go.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:02 PM

With the explosive sniper homing misiles can become replaced by better.

How ever, if the target is fast or can take down the shooter before the shooter can hit him...

With 2 ppl i say hunter...with 1...ehm...if not hydra or lazer...savage or buzzard.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:05 PM

 

I find it not too stable it bobs and swerves a lot and is nowhere near as stable as the Savage

 

Strange, because I find it MORE stable that the Savage actually. It doesn't feel that heavy. I can perform rough turns with it. It feels like SuperVolito

 

It has flares so you are safe with the homing noobs

It has bombs. so you can pretty much fly above the head and keep dropping them (you need to practice bombing without a camera though)

And it has the freaking Barrage with a surprisingly long distance!

 

Hunter is the way to go.

 

I guess stability isn't really debatable as it's more of a personal preferance than anything. I like the more 'heavy' feeling aircrafts as they stop me from overturning and help me aim better. I'll give the Hunter some credit for having flares as missles can be hard to dodge in helicopters. However, if you just avoid flying directly above other players then you won't really need 'em unless you've got a tryhard griefer flying towards you from the other side of the map.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:13 PM

My hope for the hunter is that we have different handling settings like on planes...

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:30 PM

Actually, I've just remembered something. The Savage CAN have countermeasures against incoming missles but only if you have a friend in the back. Flare guns now divert missles so as long as you have a friend in the back of your Savage, you've got yourself an anti-missle countermeasure :)

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:56 PM

So we have had a taste of the Hunter in its standard form. 

 

What do you guys think ? I find it not too stable it bobs and swerves a lot and is nowhere near as stable as the Savage. I also find the mission to blow up the merryweather jamming beacons is faster with the savage using canons In fact since the Buff on the Savage I think its come of age and is now my go to Helo for most of the new source missions.

 

What do you guys think 

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:35 PM

Hunter.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:44 PM

the hunter is a f*cking beast I just hope we can have explosive cannons then it will be the king of the air 


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:52 PM

Oh defo the Savage. I always use the savage during those Jammer missions. Infact, I also use it for most missions. I mean, who needs bombs when you can just wipe the ground with explosive cannons? The Savage, Hydra and Lazer really do make the new vehicles obsolete. Sure, the new vehicles have 'coutermeasures' but you can't counter the explosive cannons that the old vehicles have. It's unfortunate that this update put a huge emphasis on aircrafts but failed to dethrone the jets. The skies of Los Santos will always be ruled by some griefers in jets.
Don't buy any of the new stuff based on how much you can use 'em for because the Savage, Hydra and Lazer will always win. If you want a new aircraft then just pick one based on how much fun you'll have with it. I got myself a Tula.


The Rogue easily competes with the Hydra / Lazer. It too, has explosive cannons.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:40 PM Edited by Arrows to Athens, 03 September 2017 - 03:41 PM.

The Hunter doesn't like to turn when using L1/R1 to turn it, something that doesn't happen with the Savage. The Hunter is more lethal and diverse in terms of weaponary and is faster in terms of speed, but sluggish in terms of handling. And it's a bit too large for me. I guess I have to fly it some more to make a full judgement on it.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:45 PM Edited by Mattoropael, 03 September 2017 - 03:45 PM.

[...] The skies of Los Santos will always be ruled by some griefers in jets. [...]

 

Surely you jest, did you miss the last update entirely or something?

 

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:40 PM

The Savage cannot compete with anything new released.

The Hunter will have upgrades, more armor, flares, and can even drop bombs.

 

You can't compare two things that are so starkly different.

Thing is, I could see a lot of people picking the Savage if things went a little differently.

 

First of all, it has an explosive cannon. Pretty useless to anyone who isn't a professional helicopter pilot, but definitely the strongest weapon in GTA:O.

Second of all, if it were based at all on its real life counterpart, it would be a flying tank. The Hunter gets the luxury of toughness because it's a new vehicle, but give the Savage the same treatment and it's bound to be an improvement over any helicopter.

Third, the missile armament on the Savage is laughable compared to the Hunter, but again this is due to it being an "older" vehicle. The Hunter gets barrage missiles and only has two missile pods.

Now imagine a Savage given the same ability, it has four missile pods.

Finally, and this affects both helicopters, GTA's bullsh*t built-in auto-leveling, that makes using helicopters pointless unless you're looking for vertical take-off and landing (which we now have planes that can do the same thing, so... why bother?)

 

Remove auto-leveling and make Helicopters handle more freely, and the Savage may just be a preferred choice even without upgrades...

 

But no, none of the above is going to be addressed so the Hunter will quickly become and remain the best choice.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:47 PM

Hunter. It's more durable, handles better, has flares, has more in-depth customization, can drop bombs that are strong as f*ck.

 

With the barrage missiles, you don't even need the gun. They are a good substitute, and are just as useful. So with a second person on the cannon you'd be unstoppable.

 

And the bombs can destroy anything in one pass. They are one of the strongest explosives in the game. An insurgent has no chance against them.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:53 PM

The hunter literally eats savage for breakfast. The savage in this game is the total opposite in real life.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:57 PM

The Hunter doesn't like to turn when using L1/R1 to turn it, something that doesn't happen with the Savage. The Hunter is more lethal and diverse in terms of weaponary and is faster in terms of speed, but sluggish in terms of handling. And it's a bit too large for me. I guess I have to fly it some more to make a full judgement on it.


I have not flown with the Hunter yet, but is the Hunter even bigger then the Savage?

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:44 PM Edited by JakeSmooth, 03 September 2017 - 05:46 PM.

 

Oh defo the Savage. I always use the savage during those Jammer missions. Infact, I also use it for most missions. I mean, who needs bombs when you can just wipe the ground with explosive cannons? The Savage, Hydra and Lazer really do make the new vehicles obsolete. Sure, the new vehicles have 'coutermeasures' but you can't counter the explosive cannons that the old vehicles have. It's unfortunate that this update put a huge emphasis on aircrafts but failed to dethrone the jets. The skies of Los Santos will always be ruled by some griefers in jets.
Don't buy any of the new stuff based on how much you can use 'em for because the Savage, Hydra and Lazer will always win. If you want a new aircraft then just pick one based on how much fun you'll have with it. I got myself a Tula.


The Rogue easily competes with the Hydra / Lazer. It too, has explosive cannons.

 

I bought a Rogue and found it very disapointing. The explosive cannons have a slow rate of fire which are easily outshone by the Savage or either jet's infinate death beams. The Hydra's rate of fire is so fast that it just can't miss whatever target you aim at. The only thing I liked about the Rogue was the fact it was a two-seater as I could pick up friends off the streets whenever they wanted a lift. Other than that, it doesn't look very threatening as it's just a buffed up training plane. As for performance, just get a Hydra. You'll have a better top speed, faster rate of fire and VTOL.

If the jets had a slower rate of fire or no explosive rounds then I'd think that dogfighting betwen the new and old planes would become a lot more fairer and fun. I wouldn't nerf the Savage though as it's death beam is balanced out by it's inability to take more than one rocket (however I have heard that the Savages armor has been buffed in this new update. I haven't tested it yet though).

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:57 PM

May i remind that the savage has been buffed in this update and now is more durable.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:02 PM

May i remind that the savage has been buffed in this update and now is more durable.

Still nowhere near as durable as the Hunter. According to the PC people who can spawn it, the Hunter will be able to take 3-4 explosions before dying. Plus it has flares, so rockets will be negated.

 

You also have to shoot it A LOT with the explosive sniper.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:06 PM Edited by Happy Hunter, 03 September 2017 - 06:27 PM.

For the mission or just in general? Either way, I'd go for the Hunter.

 

It's faster.

 

It will have countermeasures once upgraded (that alone is a big enough selling point).

 

It's stronger (an upgraded Hunter can take about 6 explosive sniper hits, and apparently that's before anyone's in it - not to mention 950 minigun hits compared to 278 on the Savage).

 

The cannon (if you have someone to use it) has much more range than the Savage. More than the Valkyrie even (and more powerful than the Valkyrie too).

 

It has bombs, as well as the Savage's missile spam.

 

The Savage has been improved a lot by buffing it to missiles, but it's still vulnerable to bullets. No solo flares hurts it a lot too. I hear people talking about missing with the barrage, but honestly, if you miss with that, I don't think it's the helicopter's fault.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:12 PM

But the savage has infinite missiles and cannons. The Hunter actually loses its ammo as you can see the missiles disappearing from their pods. All other weaponised vehicles such as Ruiner 2000, Tampa and Oppressor, have the same feature of limited ammo count.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:14 PM

But the savage has infinite missiles and cannons. The Hunter actually loses its ammo as you can see the missiles disappearing from their pods. All other weaponised vehicles such as Ruiner 2000, Tampa and Oppressor, have the same feature of limited ammo count.

They're not limited on the mission version. They respawn on it.

 

I kind of doubt they'll be limited on the version we own. You'd run out way too quickly. If they are though, then that would be a massive downside. But I don't think they will be.

 

That also reminds me, I think it's a very nice detail that they go. Looks great in editor videos.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:17 PM

 

For the mission or just in general? Either way, I'd go for the Hunter.

 

It's faster.

 

It will have countermeasures once upgraded (that alone is a big enough selling point).

 

It's stronger (an upgraded Hunter can take about 6 explosive sniper hits, and apparently that's before anyone's in it - not to mention 950 minigun hits compared to 278 on the Savage).

 

The cannon (if you have someone to use it) has much more range than the Savage. More than the Valkyrie even (and more powerful than the Valkyrie too.

 

It has bombs, as well as the Savage's missile spam.

 

The Savage has been improved a lot by buffing it to missiles, but it's still vulnerable to bullets. No solo flares hurts it a lot too. I hear people talking about missing with the barrage, but honestly, if you miss with that, I don't think it's the helicopter's fault.

 

 

Hunter. It's more durable, handles better, has flares, has more in-depth customization, can drop bombs that are strong as f*ck.

 

With the barrage missiles, you don't even need the gun. They are a good substitute, and are just as useful. So with a second person on the cannon you'd be unstoppable.

 

And the bombs can destroy anything in one pass. They are one of the strongest explosives in the game. An insurgent has no chance against them.

 

 

Ok, but you two are a WEEEEE bit biased here...

 

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:24 PM

^ They backed it up with FACTS, bias or no bias facts are facts.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:38 PM

 

But the savage has infinite missiles and cannons. The Hunter actually loses its ammo as you can see the missiles disappearing from their pods. All other weaponised vehicles such as Ruiner 2000, Tampa and Oppressor, have the same feature of limited ammo count.

They're not limited on the mission version. They respawn on it.

 

I kind of doubt they'll be limited on the version we own. You'd run out way too quickly. If they are though, then that would be a massive downside. But I don't think they will be.

 

That also reminds me, I think it's a very nice detail that they go. Looks great in editor videos.

 

The homing missiles and barrage missiles will most likely not be limited, though the bombs will most definitely will be.

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#28

Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:40 PM

The homing missiles and barrage missiles will most likely not be limited, though the bombs will most definitely will be.

 

Yeah that's true. I think that's fair enough though, so long as the missiles aren't. Unlimited bombs ... Even when I'm not really doing that great, it's a powerful vehicle with those.

 

(My favourite kill's at 5:32)

 

 

Probably for the best those have a limit lol.

 

Even without using bombs it's a nice helicopter though.

 

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:54 PM

I feel out of the loop, what did they buff about the savage?


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 11:56 PM

I feel out of the loop, what did they buff about the savage?

It now survives a missile. I've also heard it can survive 2, though I think you have to be lucky for that (depends where it hits I'd imagine).

 

My test still get it when it comes to non-explosive weapons (still 9 kicks, etc.) - though I can't speak for when someone's in it. It might be buffed to non-explosive stuff when someone's flying it; not sure.

 

At any rate, it's buffed to explosives guaranteed.

 

Nice buff too.

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