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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:16 PM

Hey. I see you can report griefe on Gta online to rockstar.

Is it griefe to enjoy the new bunker veichles to kill random player as long you only kill a player one time and you drive next to kill another? Also no multiple kills/hunting the same player.

Just tought about it when i was out and tried out my new apc with sam on the roof...

One more question. I never destroy others cargo because its unfair that the player have spent time and it been waisted. So Im not a griefer.
The game give you mission to destroy others sale or missions when they launch one. So rockstar want us to destroy product and not see it like griefing?
Dont understand it, to take our a shippment you must also kill players most often...

Just happy to clear things up.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:21 PM Edited by Sanches, 19 June 2017 - 07:22 PM.

I understand "griefing" here as killing completly defenceless people. Or just using random glitches for your advantage. I live a neutral life in Online, i enter the battle after an other man will show his hostility. I never go "hunting" other players.
Also you are free to destroy other players' cargo, but that's just not nice. Try to be more nicer to the others.

Just try to select opponents who can fight back and you should be fine.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:32 PM

Griefing of the highest order!

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

Well ain't that the bilion dollar question :p

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:40 PM

Griefing; Killing players that have done nothing to you multiple times over, destroying their vehicles and cargo for no other reason than to do so. Killing randoms while you yourself are pretty much impossible to be killed (as in wall breaches, going in and out of passive mode and such).

 

Basically irritating the f**k out of anyone and everyone.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:44 PM

It wouldn't stop me doing it if it was lol.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:48 PM

Griefing; Killing players that have done nothing to you multiple times over, destroying their vehicles and cargo for no other reason than to do so. Killing randoms while you yourself are pretty much impossible to be killed (as in wall breaches, going in and out of passive mode and such).
 
Basically irritating the f**k out of anyone and everyone.


Yes i understand irritating others. But rockstar want you to destroy sale veichles everytime someone sell. If someone do vip work like haulage they want you to take them out and steal the truck and deliver it... So rockstar does not allow griefing but the mission they give us when we play togheter public is mission that is the worst griefing...
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

So my question is this: Is it considered griefing if you are attacked by a tryhard and over power them and they continue to antagonize you? I had a guy try to sneak up on me and killed him 5 times to none and he says I'm trash and continues to shoot at me. I get to 13-1 and decide to leave. I fly my non-weaponized, "borrowed" heli past him and he fires a rocket, messages me "That's right, run.", and chase after me. I kill him three more times and head back to the MOC to resupply. I get another "run" message, so I go back after him. 3-4 more kills later and I get an "I've had enough" message and he goes running.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:50 PM

The word griefing is a made up word.   The word you should be using is grief.  Meaning you take this game seriously and should be avoided at all costs.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:53 PM

I grief giraffes and make no apologies about it.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:54 PM

No. 

 

But of course, it doesn't mean you should kill someone over and over if they're AFK as a simple example. I would perhaps even say 'yes', it would seem more like griefing - if you did that back in 2013 - but with all the stuff we have in the game now (which may/ may not justify it) and with less things being rank-restricted, I'm going to have to say no. 


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:56 PM

Oxymoron: Here's a button to report greifing. Here's some money to destroy hours of effort.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:57 PM Edited by Arrows to Athens, 19 June 2017 - 08:57 PM.

The thing is, Rockstar encourages griefing and blowing up people's vehicles while, at the same time, condemning it by giving you BS points and, for some reason, adding in a griefing option for reporting. I swear, these devs have multiple personality disorder.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:59 PM

Stealing vehicle cargo: not griefing, because it gives the person the chance to get it back, and you get money from it if you can successfully deliver it yourself, so theres a reason to do it.

Destroying vehicle cargo: griefing, because theres no reason to do it besides being a massive ass.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:59 PM Edited by Arrows to Athens, 19 June 2017 - 09:00 PM.

The word griefing is a made up word.   The word you should be using is grief.  Meaning you take this game seriously and should be avoided at all costs.

So if you buy a shooter game, then kill other players, you're taking the game way too seriously? If getting killed in a criminal themed video game traumatizes you that bad, you shouldn't be playing in the first place.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:04 PM

@op: It depends, if you actively go on a hunt for other players just to kill them it's right on the edge of griefing to me. Every lobby has people who want to fight and people who don't, select your targets accordingly.

So my question is this: Is it considered griefing if you are attacked by a tryhard and over power them and they continue to antagonize you? I had a guy try to sneak up on me and killed him 5 times to none and he says I'm trash and continues to shoot at me. I get to 13-1 and decide to leave. I fly my non-weaponized, "borrowed" heli past him and he fires a rocket, messages me "That's right, run.", and chase after me. I kill him three more times and head back to the MOC to resupply. I get another "run" message, so I go back after him. 3-4 more kills later and I get an "I've had enough" message and he goes running.

No it's not griefing as the other guy obviously wants the fight. If you kept killing him after that last message it would become griefing.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:19 PM Edited by 4ward, 19 June 2017 - 09:21 PM.

Lol report for griefing while R* do promote griefing themselfs.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:25 PM

 

The word griefing is a made up word.   The word you should be using is grief.  Meaning you take this game seriously and should be avoided at all costs.

So if you buy a shooter game, then kill other players, you're taking the game way too seriously? If getting killed in a criminal themed video game traumatizes you that bad, you shouldn't be playing in the first place.

 

 

The problem is, GTA:O is not a "shooter game".

 

No one complains about getting killed in Battlefield. No one asks "why did you kill me?". You expect to get shot, but in GTA you have mixed expectations.

Explained in this post.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:37 PM

It's only funny to me when people are swearing on the mic and calling me every insult in the english dictionary. 

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:37 PM Edited by Arrows to Athens, 19 June 2017 - 09:42 PM.

 

 

The word griefing is a made up word.   The word you should be using is grief.  Meaning you take this game seriously and should be avoided at all costs.

So if you buy a shooter game, then kill other players, you're taking the game way too seriously? If getting killed in a criminal themed video game traumatizes you that bad, you shouldn't be playing in the first place.

 

 

The problem is, GTA:O is not a "shooter game".

 

No one complains about getting killed in Battlefield. No one asks "why did you kill me?". You expect to get shot, but in GTA you have mixed expectations.

Explained in this post.

 

You don't understand. Shooting is the main aspect of this game, so being killed out of the blue in free roam, where friendly fire is off and no rules are set, is to be expected. It's a criminal themed game where the law is meant to be broken and you're equipped with a vast collection of lethal weaponary at your disposal. Who gets to set the moral guidelines within free roam, and where do we draw the boundaries? Everyone has their own playstyle, whether you ''morally'' agree with it or not. At the end of the day, it's only a video game. If being killed in a public lobby for no reason is bothersome for you, no one is stopping you from going passive.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:23 PM Edited by WFD1992, 19 June 2017 - 10:25 PM.

 

 

 

The word griefing is a made up word.   The word you should be using is grief.  Meaning you take this game seriously and should be avoided at all costs.

So if you buy a shooter game, then kill other players, you're taking the game way too seriously? If getting killed in a criminal themed video game traumatizes you that bad, you shouldn't be playing in the first place.

 

 

The problem is, GTA:O is not a "shooter game".

 

No one complains about getting killed in Battlefield. No one asks "why did you kill me?". You expect to get shot, but in GTA you have mixed expectations.

Explained in this post.

 

You don't understand. Shooting is the main aspect of this game, so being killed out of the blue in free roam, where friendly fire is off and no rules are set, is to be expected. It's a criminal themed game where the law is meant to be broken and you're equipped with a vast collection of lethal weaponary at your disposal. Who gets to set the moral guidelines within free roam, and where do we draw the boundaries? Everyone has their own playstyle, whether you ''morally'' agree with it or not. At the end of the day, it's only a video game. If being killed in a public lobby for no reason is bothersome for you, no one is stopping you from going passive.

 

If you want to use helicopters like the Swift Deluxe, Super Volito, and/ or Volatus, yes there is.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:43 PM

So my question is this: Is it considered griefing if you are attacked by a tryhard and over power them and they continue to antagonize you?


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:05 PM

A lot of people act like we all signed a GTA online equivalent of the Geneva Convention that governs the rules of engagement but we didn't but that doesn't stop them from trying to enforce their version of rules on everyone. The truth of the matter is GTA online is a dog eat dog world and you either accept it or you complain about it.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:18 PM

Griefing is not killing random players just once, it's by killing people without there being a reason for you to do so, like a mission, etc.

Take your own example to know were you draw the line.. if you get mad by someone killing you just once.. then don't do it.. if you don't care if you die 3 to 5 times.. then that's the limit, and if you kill anyone more than 3 times in a row without them even trying to kill you back to even the odds, thats griefing.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:21 PM

If you are in a jet yes. If not no.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:23 PM

If you are in a jet yes. If not no.

 

That's oversimplistic and bs, you can grief with anything that can bother someone else.. even constantly crashing into another dude can make you a griefer, or maybe a troll, since griefing is more associated to murder haha. But you get my point.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:25 PM

Everything else is easy to escape.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:35 PM

It's not griefing if the mechanics of the game are built so you can kill other people or blow up their shlt. Would it be griefing in a first person shooter If someone killed you? No. This game was built so that anyone at any time can be killed by other players. I'd say that's how the game is meant to be played honestly. if rockstar didn't want you to kill other players or blow up their shlt they wouldn't have added all the features to help you kill other players and blow up their sh*t.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:45 PM

Sigh………

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:50 PM

Everything else is easy to escape.


So are jets if you use your head (I know, it's not easy for you, but I bet you can do it if you put some effort into it).
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