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Posted 10 July 2017 - 10:59 AM

You can import LC from GTA IV to GTA V but only for your private use. As long you are not distributing it you should have no problems with all that copyright sh*t.


That's exactly what LC in V project did, and what OpenIV Team thought, but not to be, and now here we are.

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 03:49 PM

 

You can import LC from GTA IV to GTA V but only for your private use. As long you are not distributing it you should have no problems with all that copyright sh*t.


That's exactly what LC in V project did, and what OpenIV Team thought, but not to be, and now here we are.

 

But weren´t they planing to distribute some IV stuff with the mod.

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:28 PM Edited by SMG, 10 July 2017 - 09:29 PM.

But weren´t they planing to distribute some IV stuff with the mod.

nope. 100% a conversion tool from original GTA IV files with additional license checks to make sure they are genuine to boot.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:51 PM Edited by cj2000, 12 July 2017 - 01:51 PM.

 

But weren´t they planing to distribute some IV stuff with the mod.

nope. 100% a conversion tool from original GTA IV files with additional license checks to make sure they are genuine to boot.

 

Than I really don´t see the problem.

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 04:19 PM

But weren´t they planing to distribute some IV stuff with the mod.

nope. 100% a conversion tool from original GTA IV files with additional license checks to make sure they are genuine to boot.

Than I really don´t se the problem.

Exactly. There isn't one. Unless T2 are going to send me a CnD for converting the map off my own back for personal use they shouldn't be sending one to the OpenIV team either.
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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:29 AM

but GTA4 and GTA5 are the SAME IP. So whats the problem? there is no rule broken.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:13 AM Edited by southparkmayor, 14 July 2017 - 01:26 AM.

but GTA4 and GTA5 are the SAME IP. So whats the problem? there is no rule broken.

OpenIV does not want to risk it. 

 

i personally think there has been a huge misunderstanding of the modding policy though. 


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:27 AM

They're not going to risk having their reputations and revenue destroyed by vengeful mob mentality for too much longer.

Everyone who review bombed GTAV needs to fix their review. You got what you wanted, now hold up your end of the bargain.

Their reputation was sealed with V pc release. GTA V does not deserve any praise from pc players. It is their worst game to date, which left me with 0 confidence about any future GTA games.

 

Besides the graphics, GTA V is a mediocre game with forgettable characters and a forgettable story. Bought it on a release day.Could not play until forced 5GB slug download was completed.Constant lock outs from SP forcing me to connect to internet, updates I did not want or need.Played it for a month, did not mod it at all, uninstalled it to never play it again. At least I got a nice looking box and a poster. Reminds me of my wasted money and wasted bandwidth.

Came back to GTA series only due to good memories from VC/SA/IV/EFLC. And since I still got my disks, back here and to gtagarage to mod them up with mods I do not have. And to grab few tools. Open IV is a good tool. Gta modding crowd from around the world has been and still is one of the best on the net.


 

You can import LC from GTA IV to GTA V but only for your private use. As long you are not distributing it you should have no problems with all that copyright sh*t.


That's exactly what LC in V project did, and what OpenIV Team thought, but not to be, and now here we are.

 

If it can be imported, maybe I might reinstall V again one day.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 09:46 AM

 

but GTA4 and GTA5 are the SAME IP. So whats the problem? there is no rule broken.

OpenIV does not want to risk it. 

 

i personally think there has been a huge misunderstanding of the modding policy though. 

 

I agree with you there. They had an issue with RDR V because it was a different title. We have had a tone of GTA map conversions. Rockstar and Take Two didn't give a sh*t about those.

 

But there is one I wonder about. GTA Underground.

 

Remember folks, it is always about money. They are probably going to be remastering RDR and GTA IV. GTA IV's 10th Anniversary is around the corner. I'm a little doubtful that it would get a mobile version (if it did, it would require a powerful phone). But since IV is in the HD era, there could be an expansion for GTA Online. If so, we will just load the map in SP using mod menus. lol. Just like all of the map changes that have been made for Online.

 

Also, don't be surprised if there are people working on one or more Liberty City ports as we speak. Once they are satisfied with their results, they may be released to the public. If Take Two shuts them down, it will be too late. Strauss may have a temper tantrum and break something in his mansion/penthouse or on his yacht though. lol

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:35 PM Edited by Renazor, 16 July 2017 - 01:44 PM.

but GTA4 and GTA5 are the SAME IP. So whats the problem? there is no rule broken.

 

Well, that's only our human practical perception/coincidence, technially legally it may not. The trademarks are separate, I still think they're treated as a separate IP as well.

 

Rememeber the Duke Nukem Forever thing, where it was all split up, even if Gearbox has the main part, there's still other DN games in-dev by Apogee and other studios that 3DRealms outsourced to.

 

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:47 PM

So, they allowed modding, but disallowed mods.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 07:22 PM

You know I still don't understand this. They have a problem with distributing it but it's not like anyone is in this to profit from it. Would they really have a chance in court pulling this BS?


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 05:15 AM

Yes, because it is their property, and they've also got a lot of lawyers and money.

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 04:00 AM Edited by Niobium, 30 July 2017 - 04:07 AM.

i was not following this thread when take two released their statement regarding modding. i just wanted to say f*ck take-two and their non-apology.

 

"Take-Two has agreed that it generally will not take legal action against third-party projects"

 

i'm no lawyer but "generally" is f*cking vague as sh*t. a loophole waiting to happen.

 

"This does not apply to... use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project."

 

great... so if i am reading this correctly, that means no hulk mods or ironman mods or anything like that. that just killed a lot of these mods.

 

"Take-Two reserves the right to object to any third-party project, or to revise, revoke and/or withdraw this statement at any time in their own discretion."

 

this speaks for itself.

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 04:27 AM Edited by zanesix, 30 July 2017 - 04:30 AM.

"This does not apply to... use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project."
 
great... so if i am reading this correctly, that means no hulk mods or ironman mods or anything like that. that just killed a lot of these mods.

I honestly think they don't care about any of that stuff, they only care about importing/exporting their IP from game to game. If that was true JulioNIB probably would have gotten a cease and desist by now, they're just saying it to cover their bases if you know what I mean.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:17 PM

i stopped playing gta 5 the moment i heard the news.

 

is there a chance open iv can be developed by other team who dont care about copyright laws ? since gta 5 is a pirated game anyways.


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Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:32 AM

i stopped playing gta 5 the moment i heard the news.
 
is there a chance open iv can be developed by other team who dont care about copyright laws ? since gta 5 is a pirated game anyways.


you're late, the Problem is already solved, and the openiv team continue to work on openiv
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Posted 4 weeks ago

I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to everyone who took part (and the thread has already been necro'd...so why not). What happened two months ago was truly a watershed moment. Rockstar and Take2 will not forget this in a hurry. The next time they, or any other company, consider doing something like this...they will remember the fallout...they will remember us...they will remember the power each of us wields as a consumer. Hold your heads high my friends. It has been two months...and GTA 5's steam reviews...still haven't recovered.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

IMO R* deserves the bad ratings and they should continue for the sole fact that they decided to pull this sh*tty move and dont give a damn about the consumer to start with, sadly in a couple of months the general rating will go back to normal

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Posted 4 weeks ago

Now the nice people have stolen millions of legit dollars from online players. They hate pc plain and simple.

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Posted 3 weeks ago

guys i dont get it open iv is not dead right ? 

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Posted 3 weeks ago

OpenIV is not dead. But, it is current on hold because GooD-NTS' PC is broken and he is not able to work on it right now.
 

My home PC is broken now. So, no updates.

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Posted 3 weeks ago

OpenIV is not dead. But, it is current on hold because GooD-NTS' PC is broken and he is not able to work on it right now.
 

My home PC is broken now. So, no updates.

 

 

Do you know anything about Script Hook V updates?


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Posted 3 weeks ago

OpenIV is not dead. But, it is current on hold because GooD-NTS' PC is broken and he is not able to work on it right now. 

My home PC is broken now. So, no updates.

Glad the project is alive. I wish GooD-NTS the best of luck in getting his PC up and running smoothly.

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Posted 3 weeks ago

Sorry if I have missed, but I have not been following the topic for pretty long.

I'd read if I know where..

 

But anway: So what's happening with this project?


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Posted 3 weeks ago

Sorry if I have missed, but I have not been following the topic for pretty long.

I'd read if I know where..

 

But anway: So what's happening with this project?

 

 

Its alive, but mostly inactive. The progress will take time.

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Posted 3 weeks ago

Yes , new update is up @remix

@ open iv guys you have all the support of the community keep it up ! u rock !

 
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Posted 3 weeks ago

I see that scripthook has been updated, but from what the native trainer sees is not updated and unfortunately can not weld him in the latest vehicles.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

about the liberty city project from los santos side will still be added?

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Posted 2 weeks ago

about the liberty city project from los santos side will still be added?

no.

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