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#4441

Posted 03 July 2017 - 12:30 PM

 

Let's create, write and do the biggest petition in the world to restore the ability to create and use OpenV for modding purposes. Get a lot of votes against Take Two and show them as a response to players and the entire GTA community and other rockstar games.

Perhaps there is a chance yet to change this stupid, sh*t decision.

 

@GooD-NTS

 

What do You think about it? Let's not give up quickly.

If you create such petition, I´ll sign it, even I am not a big fan of HD era modding.

 

I recommend Google Chrome instead of Internet Explorer

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#4442

Posted 03 July 2017 - 12:50 PM

 

 

Let's create, write and do the biggest petition in the world to restore the ability to create and use OpenV for modding purposes. Get a lot of votes against Take Two and show them as a response to players and the entire GTA community and other rockstar games.

Perhaps there is a chance yet to change this stupid, sh*t decision.

 

@GooD-NTS

 

What do You think about it? Let's not give up quickly.

If you create such petition, I´ll sign it, even I am not a big fan of HD era modding.

 

I recommend Google Chrome instead of Internet Explorer

 

Whoom was that adressed? I prefer Firefox.

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#4443

Posted 03 July 2017 - 04:14 PM

Has this thread just entered the Twilight Zone?

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#4444

Posted 03 July 2017 - 05:09 PM Edited by MrGTAmodsgerman, 03 July 2017 - 05:10 PM.

 

 

Let's create, write and do the biggest petition in the world to restore the ability to create and use OpenV for modding purposes. Get a lot of votes against Take Two and show them as a response to players and the entire GTA community and other rockstar games.

Perhaps there is a chance yet to change this stupid, sh*t decision.

 

@GooD-NTS

 

What do You think about it? Let's not give up quickly.

If you create such petition, I´ll sign it, even I am not a big fan of HD era modding.

 

I recommend Google Chrome instead of Internet Explorer

 

You recommend Google Chrome? ahahahaha you must be very blind or you don't care about your data and stats and all other information that Google and IE trace. Also you build a better way for hackers to hack your computer by getting s*cked from Google.

Please don't recommend other people to use Google products!


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#4445

Posted 03 July 2017 - 05:20 PM

As if Google doesn't know everything about me already...

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#4446

Posted 03 July 2017 - 05:47 PM

The wait is aggravating.

I'm still cautious that this happened just a few days before the Summer Sale.

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#4447

Posted 03 July 2017 - 06:15 PM Edited by MeatSafeMurderer, 03 July 2017 - 06:16 PM.

If you create such petition, I´ll sign it, even I am not a big fan of HD era modding.

Are you...are you living under a rock? How have you missed the 125+ pages since that was posted in which it's stated that OpenIV is allowed to continue?

Also...if you're not using Firefox you're doing it wrong. Support open source software dammit!
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#4448

Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:31 PM

is anyone else's modded game still crashing whenever they try to load it up? or is it just me? i updated scripthookv and .net. but the reason i'm posting it on here is because could it be due to openiv not being updated yet. or no?


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#4449

Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:41 PM

It's probably some incompatible mod, everything works fine over here.

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#4450

Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:45 PM

I have a few vehicles which were working fine on v1032, I didn't add or remove any mods, but now I get a crash.

 

Is the current OpenIV.asi supposed to be working fine with v1103?


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#4451

Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

OpenIV ASI works with any game version, AFAIK.

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#4452

Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:45 PM Edited by cj2000, 04 July 2017 - 02:23 PM.


 

If you create such petition, I´ll sign it, even I am not a big fan of HD era modding.

Are you...are you living under a rock? How have you missed the 125+ pages since that was posted in which it's stated that OpenIV is allowed to continue?

 

Also...if you're not using Firefox you're doing it wrong. Support open source software dammit!


I can't read all over 100 pages, in some other thread Xsety posted the information about the problem with take 2 just a few days ago, so tought this isue is still actual.
Also if you read some posts befor, you see I am using Firefox.
 

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:02 PM

I have a few vehicles which were working fine on v1032, I didn't add or remove any mods, but now I get a crash.

 

Is the current OpenIV.asi supposed to be working fine with v1103?

 

Probably something to do with gameconfig.xml. It gets updated every update, and using older versions of it will crash the game.

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#4454

Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:46 AM

Is this topic considered dead now? 


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:50 AM

At the moment, we're all just kinda loitering here waiting for a statement.

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 09:20 AM

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#4457

Posted 04 July 2017 - 09:36 AM

So the statement ....

Maybe it's also C&D'd ,

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 10:01 AM

Waiting for statement like...

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:59 PM

The ONLY reason Rockstar reacted was because of negative attention they were getting in the media. Rockstar did lie initially and agreed with Take-Two until they were forced to face the impact of this choice. You might think the action of the community was "harsh" but if there is one thing I've learned about Rockstar it's that they really don't like the media when they can't manipulate it, which is why I helped with websites this time make sure the correct info was being put out AND keep on it. If the Steam reviews are a sacrifice for this then that will be a reminder to Rockstar what happens when they tried to be ok with banning Single Player Modding.

I don't believe that. I guarantee Rockstar was ahead of the curve and that T2's decision was frustrating for Rockstar as well. It's pretty clear that at least some of the Rockstar team enjoys GTAV mods, so it would be strange if at least ONE of them didn't speak up when T2's C&D went out. 

 

As far as your threatening attitude toward Rockstar and TakeTwo, using review bombing as leverage to "keep them in line"... that's actually a pretty horrifying precedent. I don't like that one bit. That is NOT diplomacy, it is NOT professional, and it is NOT how a civilized society acts. 

 

And I've said before... if gamers keep up this bullsh*t, jumping straight for review bombing (which, again, gamers have yet to rectify even though T2 reversed its stance), it's going to force the gaming industry to employ counter measures eventually.

They're not going to risk having their reputations and revenue destroyed by vengeful mob mentality for too much longer.

When we, the gamers, appear to be wholly unreasonable in that we refuse to even attempt diplomacy and jump straight for the nuclear option, these large companies are GOING to protect themselves from us. And what they do is going to be bad for ALL of us.

Everyone who review bombed GTAV needs to fix their review. You got what you wanted, now hold up your end of the bargain. 

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:06 PM

R* was never against mods, in fact, they liked the community work even before V and made mods legal in single player. They initialy thought that OpenIV is a source to Online modding, but they still tried to find a way to keep single player modding alive. It's T2's fault, not R*'s 

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#4462

Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:09 PM

Everyone who review bombed GTAV needs to fix their review. You got what you wanted, now hold up your end of the bargain.


GTA:O is still trash, cheaters are still present in almost every GTA:O lobby, rightful players are still getting banned, R*'s unannounced changes to handling physics ruin GTA:O competetive racing, paywalled imbalanced weapons and vehicles are constantly released. If the single player doesn't "deserve" to be modded, there's nothing left for me in the game, thus it'll stay a negative rating in 2017 unless Take Two lets Rockstar go their merry way with tolerating mods and R* proactively stands up to defend this.
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:04 PM

Everyone who review bombed GTAV needs to fix their review. You got what you wanted, now hold up your end of the bargain.

GTA:O is still trash, cheaters are still present in almost every GTA:O lobby, rightful players are still getting banned, R*'s unannounced changes to handling physics ruin GTA:O competetive racing, paywalled imbalanced weapons and vehicles are constantly released. If the single player doesn't "deserve" to be modded, there's nothing left for me in the game, thus it'll stay a negative rating in 2017 unless Take Two lets Rockstar go their merry way with tolerating mods and R* proactively stands up to defend this.

Does your review state that you're speaking solely for the Online portion of the game? How do you rate the Single Player Portion?

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:19 PM

How do you rate the Single Player Portion?

getting more outdated with every patch, is a bad reminder of the toll GTA Online has taken on the game. If it weren't for mods, I wouldn't still be playing it.

Therefore, not recommended. It's about time this game gets the ratings it deserves.

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#4465

Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:27 PM

How do you rate the Single Player Portion?

R* keeps braking Story Mode with every Online-only update. Right now I can only remember the missing magazines/scopes/suppressors/etc during cutscenes, but there's more. I downvoted GTA V way before the OpenIV drama and I'm not gonna change my opinion.
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:56 PM

How do you rate the Single Player Portion?

R* keeps braking Story Mode with every Online-only update. Right now I can only remember the missing magazines/scopes/suppressors/etc during cutscenes, but there's more. I downvoted GTA V way before the OpenIV drama and I'm not gonna change my opinion.

and after gunrunning the scope of the heavy Sniper changes from Advanced scope to normal scope in Story Mode, and you have to go to ammunation, equip the normal scope and then reequip the Advanced scope.

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 06:56 PM

 

The ONLY reason Rockstar reacted was because of negative attention they were getting in the media. Rockstar did lie initially and agreed with Take-Two until they were forced to face the impact of this choice. You might think the action of the community was "harsh" but if there is one thing I've learned about Rockstar it's that they really don't like the media when they can't manipulate it, which is why I helped with websites this time make sure the correct info was being put out AND keep on it. If the Steam reviews are a sacrifice for this then that will be a reminder to Rockstar what happens when they tried to be ok with banning Single Player Modding.

Everyone who review bombed GTAV needs to fix their review. You got what you wanted, now hold up your end of the bargain. 

 

No we will not change our reviews because we still don't know what the future of OpenIV is.

 

Nobody should be changing their review until GooD releases a statement.


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#4468

Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:22 PM   Best Answer

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In order to qualify all of the questions we had received during past weeks, we make some explanations:
Unfortunately, we were unable to answer those questions earlier due to real life (yeah we have some).
 
The community
First of all, we want to say "Thank you" to everyone who supported us in this tough situation. We’re very grateful for your support; for demonstration of the fact, that modding community is still a minority, but very vocal, creative and determined minority. You made the impossible and this story is already scribed into the history of PC gaming and the Internet itself.
Yes, this is your victory! Congratulations and many thanks once again!
 
OpenIV and modding
The development of OpenIV will be continued as before. OpenIV never supported GTA Online modding and will not support it in the future. Our work will be continued within the Rockstar modding policy.
 
Liberty City in Grand Theft Auto V
Unfortunately, our highly anticipated mod “Liberty City in GTA V” will not be released because it clearly contradicts with Rockstar modding policy. Liberty City mod is a big loss for us, since it was a huge part of our motivation to push OpenIV functionality.
 
If you are wondering what is next, well, we are currently revising our plans for the future.
 
 
Sincerely,
OpenIV Team.

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:38 PM

Liberty City in Grand Theft Auto V
Unfortunately, our highly anticipated mod “Liberty City in GTA V” will not be released because it clearly contradicts with Rockstar modding policy. Liberty City mod is a big loss for us, since it was a huge part of our motivation to push OpenIV functionality.

That's f*cking sad. I still don't understand what does R* have against it specifically, since it would benefit all sides.
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:44 PM

No victory without sacrifice...

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