Yeah I edited, I was mostly talking to Spaghetti Cat 'cause he's all kudos to the DoJ for calling antifa terrorists.
But what I meant was that the guys in the truck might have been attacked by the counter-protestors because they were wearing MAGA hats, I wasn't harking back to what you're talking about, but in reality I think the requirements for committing violence against any leftist are equally as low if you really want to be truthful about it.
What I'm saying is that there's a reason they threw rocks at the truck, and there's a reason they pepper-sprayed the people who threw rocks, but it's really just a matter of opinion and conjecture who "started it". They could have shouted something unpopular and became surrounded by people, and I have seen enough of them bold enough to pound car windows and stuff. Versus running someone over, masing them to get them the hell away from your car is a pretty restrained choice. There's a lot of anti-BLM types who talk about running free-way blockers over and somehow justifying that. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that the guys in the truck didn't provoke the counter-protestors. They clearly provoked some kind of response which needed pepper-spray to disperse.
I think most of what you are saying is reasonable. We seem to agree on the point that we just don't know enough to completely judge what happened. But your claim that wearing a MAGA hat is 'provoking' at a 'Patriot Prayer rally' is dubious. It's not. They might've unnecessarily provoked the Antifa rioters, but we don't know whether they did. Let's leave it at that.
Well, that's precisely the issue, should it be left at that? I mean we don't know why the truck was attacked, if it was attacked before or after the occupants used pepper-spray on a crowd of pedestrians, etc. The details of who to blame should have been hashed out under an investigation, but the police who were at the scene apparently felt it was within their discretion to deem this a justified use. Of course, that begs the question: Is that because it was actually a justified use, or because the police are sympathetic with the conservative/right?
I believe it's really hard to answer that question without just more speculation, conjecture and bias and so I think that's what makes it evident that some kind of investigation should have been made. Fortunately there's nothing stopping them from conducting that investigation in retrospect, but still it just does not seem very just that the police will let some groups go under their own discretion, while they will use the full extent of the law to detain other groups until further investigation. It is a pretty glaring double standard, if not indication of some kind of conspiratory or sympathetic view by the local PD. So while it might surprise some that I actually think the pepper-spraying was probably a legitimate lawful use of pepper-spray for self-defense, I still think it's troublesome the police didn't at least detain them and fully investigate it. There doesn't even seem to be a police report or anything of that nature to review.
Basically, best case scenario: These guys mased a crowd of people surrounding their truck to get them away so they could flee, which despite whoever started it, is a perfectly justified use of pepper spray. Then the police witnessed the entire incident, and decided that apparently they did nothing against the law to deserve being attacked, and were let along their way. They then crashed into a police cruiser, or "nudged it" as they contend, under duress from the incident, and the police allowed them to leave.
Worst case scenario: These guys mased a crowd of people because they're assholes, claimed-self defense after the crowd started hitting them with rocks, and the local PD was sympathetic with their politics and so turned an eye to this incident and allowed them to leave the scene and even crash into one of their vehicles and the police simply let this go as well for the same sympathetic reasons.
So there's probably a lot of truth and middle ground to be meshed out there, but it looks very bad any time a person runs into a police vehicle and the police simply wave them on by. Compound that with them having pepper-sprayed a bunch of people before hand, and it definitely seems like the police were giving these people carte blanc to get the hell out of there. But again, was that because they somehow agreed with their politics, or because the police witnessed the entire thing and were 100% sure this was a lawful use of force against an attack. The fact that there's no incident report for this is very, very troubling, and if they had even made a simple detainment there would probably be such a report.
I'm not saying they should have cuffed them and given them cavity searches, but just letting anyone go in a circumstance like this is 100% favoritism. That favoritism might not have been unjustified, but we'll never really know it seems. I think that is the fault of the police more than anyone, and it's certainly hard to argue the perspective that the police let them skate because they're all pro-Trump good ol' boys versus, in my honest opinion, was a judgement call by the police that the pepper-spraying was in self-defense. Again though, since it's all so uncorroborated, you could really make as strong an argument the other way.