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#61

Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:29 PM

 

That leaked map doesnt have a train line but there is a train present in the trailer.

 

Wot!? It says "railrod" and goes all over the leaked map. I mean everything is quite accurate to the leaked map, so if the leaked map was fake then Rockstar trying to make the leaked map look real in this trailer. That I find unlikely.

 

In the FAKE leaked map and the cleaned up FAKE map the rail roads don't connect. Sure they could be separate due to mountains but they also made tunnels back then so that's another reason why I think it's not the real map. They should connect so people and goods can get from town to town.

 

Too bad Mexico isn't in. Liked the diversity of the first RDR. So based on all your findings the leaked map is indeed real. And all footage was from the heartland(s)? 

Don't be so quick to judgement. We haven't seen everything yet. I believe Mexico will be bigger and better than RDR1.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:35 PM

In the FAKE leaked map and the cleaned up FAKE map the rail roads don't connect.


What are you talking about? They clearly do. The yellow line is the railroad.

http://i.imgur.com/KHO85OP.jpg
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:49 PM

 

In the FAKE leaked map and the cleaned up FAKE map the rail roads don't connect.


What are you talking about? They clearly do. The yellow line is the railroad.

http://i.imgur.com/KHO85OP.jpg

 

My bad. I mean't the map that tacks the original RDR map on the south west corner of this one. I will get on the same page as everyone else or shut up.  :/


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 07:13 PM

Farmer and the rocks:

 

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 07:14 PM Edited by USAPatriot, 20 October 2016 - 07:18 PM.

In the tree shots, around mountains, it reminded me of the inland Northwest, such as Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.

 

Some parts reminded me of Washington and Oregon, but I feel I am too far north.  Other environmental scenes were clearly farther south.

 

I'm thinking realistically this will be on the eastern side of the Rockies.  


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:00 PM

They are the same lamp?
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Leaked map IS real then. I knew it.

 

And people saying that they can find that house in West Elizabeth but it looks slightly different, exactly. This game takes place in the 1890s or late 1880s


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:27 PM

Leaked map IS real then. I knew it.


Why does this image prove the map is not fake? serious question.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:29 PM

Leaked map IS real then. I knew it.

That pic only proves the shanty pic is real, the leaked map  could still be fake.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:39 PM

For those interested, below are the maps from the GTA V mapping thread before Rockstar released the blueprint map. I'm wondering how close we'll get to RDR2's map.

 

0C84MWu.jpg

 

 

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:43 PM Edited by dwh850, 20 October 2016 - 08:50 PM.

They are the same lamp?
GNku9kT.jpg

c6OAK8Q.jpg

Leaked map IS real then. I knew it.
 
And people saying that they can find that house in West Elizabeth but it looks slightly different, exactly. This game takes place in the 1890s or late 1880s
I was just playin around in thieves landing and I noticed those exact lights are also on the side of several buildings

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=dEjk6D1lYKQ
Found a shot of them at 2:42
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:47 PM

For those interested, below are the maps from the GTA V mapping thread before Rockstar released the blueprint map. I'm wondering how close we'll get to RDR2's map.
 
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I remember those days! Good times. One difference between that endeavor and this one, though: in GTA5 we knew we were mapping "Los Angeles" and the surrounding areas. I think it's going to be a bit more subjective this time around. I mean, we're already starting to group certain "areas" together visually...but it will be tough to conclusively say which areas go where until we get a lot more information. But, I say let's do it!
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:57 PM Edited by DeeDogg_, 21 October 2016 - 08:50 PM.

Cleaned up map:

 

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They are the same lamp?
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UPDATE: Thank you to GTAForums user cris-formage for providing me with these screenshots of the same house found by The Wreck of the Serendipity in Red Dead Redemption for me to use as a comparison!

 

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LOCATION:

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:11 PM

For those interested, below are the maps from the GTA V mapping thread before Rockstar released the blueprint map. I'm wondering how close we'll get to RDR2's map.

 

0C84MWu.jpg

 

 

 

Brings back the memories from viewing those observant forum users. 

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:16 PM Edited by Chinese Takeout, 20 October 2016 - 09:24 PM.

Ahh! WTF?! Haha, sorry, but this is driving me nuts, LOL! Exactly what landmarks are in both the TRAILER and the FAKE MAP that would UN-FAKE the map? And you can't say generic sh*t like lakes or mountains or trees, lol. About the only thing that would do it is if that "Worth's General Store" was mentioned BY NAME on the FAKE MAP, but I don't see it anywhere. Please tell me what irrefutable proof you are referring to. Thanks! :-)

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:19 PM Edited by Richard Power Colt, 20 October 2016 - 09:37 PM.

The leaked map could just be a work in progress or it's a fake. I think the swamp pattern is different in the trailer. And I also don't see a railroad there on the trailer.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:25 PM

I think I want the map to end up being real, just so all the people in here screaming FAKE MAP over and over have to eat some crow.  God, stop being such annoying little know-it-alls.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:25 PM Edited by Alpha1234, 20 October 2016 - 09:26 PM.

The railroad is found on the 'leaked' map. Look at the key, it's a solid yellow line going across the map.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:31 PM Edited by DeGeneratorX, 20 October 2016 - 09:33 PM.

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Almost coincidence lol

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:35 PM

The railroad is found on the 'leaked' map. Look at the key, it's a solid yellow line going across the map.

 
No one faking a map would have thought to include a railroad. It must be real.
 
P.S. Oh great, Nutduster's back. The know-it-all that hates know-it-alls. I thought you weren't coming back until the game came out. Oh well. What you mistake for know-it-all-ism is that back and forth that forces each side in the argument to really substantiate their claim to truth (in this case, the validity of the map). Everyone benefits when bad ideas are tossed out and good ideas withstand scrutiny. Rather than bitching about this process, why don't you offer some valuable input for a change?
 
<...waiting...>
 

 
Almost coincidence lol

 
I guess the blue stuff on either side of the tributary (on the fake map) are mountains? Because in the screenshot...I see mountains on either side. Not bodies of water.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:42 PM

The only way to know for sure is too wait for the game to come out and compare the maps. I bet the game also has horses in it.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:44 PM Edited by RedDagger, 20 October 2016 - 09:45 PM.

Aight, here's what we have so far, given that the trailer is split into 15 separate scenes, just quickly number them in order they appear:
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Known links:
2-5
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It's a start!
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:51 PM Edited by Arthur Fookin Shelby, 20 October 2016 - 10:04 PM.

This being the map does seem quite plausible. The names are probably temporarily put in by the map designers and then named aptly by a creative director/ writer.

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#83

Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:58 PM Edited by Midnight Hitman, 20 October 2016 - 10:01 PM.

Is soemone trying to landmark the shanty using the so called leaked map

I've tried but god knows i can't.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:58 PM

Aight, here's what we have so far, given that the trailer is split into 15 separate scenes, just quickly number them in order they appear:

Spoiler

Known links:
2-5
13-15
1-15

It's a start!

 

This is great! The only question I have is: in your link to 1-15, 1 seems to have a red mountain outline that would place it behind the sun. In the shot of the guy riding up over the ridge...if you play with the brightness and contrast of that shot, it seems like you can see the lightsource (sun) unobstructed...contrary to the placement of the mountain range edit. Yes? 


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:59 PM

The issue with using the sun for analysis is that R* is known for changing the sun's position to get the lighting they want to. At least in screenshots.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:11 PM Edited by Arthur Fookin Shelby, 20 October 2016 - 10:12 PM.

Is soemone trying to landmark the shanty using the so called leaked map

I've tried but god knows i can't.

I reckon it's in Bayounwa or Bluegrill Marsh, which gives reason for it to be on stilts, as it's a swampy marsh.

Or it could be the Mossy Flats, that gives apt place with the Grizzlies in the backdrop, that meandering river just behind and maybe that's Cumberland Forest in the background. If it's flat ground, i.e a flood plain, that also explains the stilts.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:19 PM

The issue with using the sun for analysis is that R* is known for changing the sun's position to get the lighting they want to. At least in screenshots.

Screenshots and trailers in general. They do this all the time to avoid mapping and make better fx.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:25 PM Edited by Arms Dealer, 20 October 2016 - 10:32 PM.

"Larned Sod?" could refer to the "new more durable sod and adobe fort" of Fort Larned, in Kansas

 

Edit: Fort Wallace was also a real location in Kansas.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:28 PM

I was waiting for this thread. Thank you 


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 10:48 PM

Farmer and the rocks:
 

Isn't this the Rockstar store background? I swear this was there since before GTA V
 
Here's my two cents, after seeing a load of GTA V fake maps.
And I mean a sh*t ton. Something about this map seems off. As in it seems to be the opposite from what we expect. It is unpolished, unfinished and yet still somehow seems Rockstar designed. Rockstar's maps just have a certain thing to them. That magic. 
The tip off here is the inclusion of New Elizabeth. When has Rockstar ever reused a section of map in another game (inb4 the LC in San Andreas)? The very fact that any faker with half a brain would avoid something as odd and off putting as including West Elizabeth, doubled with the rumors of a prequel, lead me to believe it is real. 
 
I'm open to debate as long as it doesn't include "It looks fake cause I say it looks fake" or if it doesn't contain "it looks fake due to the lack of Analheim". 
 
Edit: Someone get Fido in here stat, this man will get us a detailed map by tomorrow just based off this trailer.

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