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Posted 10 June 2016 - 02:48 PM

The edge of the universe?  Depends what you mean by "edge".  For over 2000 years, we thought the universe was infinite given that if I were stand on the edge of the universe and extended my arm over it, then that would now be the edge of the universe ad infinitum.  However, if that were true, we'd have an infinite number of stars in the night sky.  So in theory, it should finite.  Think of it like a game of Asteroids, where moving to one edge of the screen causes you to come out on the opposing end of the screen, or a piece of paper that has been joined at the edges to form rolled up object.  No one inside them would know that it's infinite in the sense of direction but finite in terms of perspective.

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 06:00 PM

What do you think is beyond the edge of the known universe?

...more universe.

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:00 PM

It's a bit like asking an ant what Mars looks like. The ant would understand the surrounding area. It might even have a grasp on what the Earth is. But something that is so far away is truly unfathamable. Given the universe is expanding at a faster and faster rate, we may never know.

So I'm gonna say God, prove me wrong! :p

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:10 PM

I've always had a hard on for Jupiter, gas plants in general interest me but Jupiter is the one that I really want to explore. I've always wanted to try to 'step' on it, I'd get crushed no doubt by the massive pressure but I still want to know what it looks like super up close.


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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:26 PM Edited by ~SophisticatedAviator~, 10 June 2016 - 08:28 PM.

'To every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction'

So the big bang happened and now space is forever expanding... I wonder if there could be an 'opposite reaction' and space collapses in on itself?

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 09:58 PM

Maybe.  There's actually a theory on what you've just described known as the Big Crunch.

 

But ever since quantum mechanics, our basic understanding of beginning and end, or causality, have been altered by theories of spontaneous creation.  In other words, and without being to too controversial, nothing was necessary to set the universe in motion, because our basic understanding of cause and effect does not apply at the quantum level.  It simply came into being.

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 09:59 PM Edited by MyName'sJeff, 10 June 2016 - 10:01 PM.

I think you meant for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.  As quoted by Sir Isaac Newton which is just a theory. The big bang is an action, or in better terms a cause. The space expanding for billions of years is the effect of that cause, alas a reaction. For there to be a reaction, there has to be an action. That's already happened. Space collapsing on itself would be paradoxical no? Because then there would be nothing, therefore there would be no action and reaction.


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Posted 10 June 2016 - 11:29 PM

y'all know there's so much space that we're running out of cute names to name stuff in space.

this Hubble image, for instance, is affectionately known as "Galaxy Cluster MCS J0416.1-2403"

 

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 09:10 PM

to further drive my previous point home, I present y'all with the aptly named "Interacting Galaxies ARP-273"

 

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and here's some aptly named big-ass telescopes.

 

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:56 PM

Jupiter is famous for its red dot, but did you guys know that Saturn also has its own massive storm system which basically maintains a perfect hexagonal shape? bet you guys didn't know that...

 

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recently a large disturbance was noted on Saturn's F-ring.

likely small meteor showers colliding with the rock belt.

 

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and this is the surface of the sun in ultra-violet.

 

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 06:21 AM

I've always toyed with the idea of launching a balloon into space but it's gonna be expensive, as well as getting permission etc...

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:46 PM

Carl Sagan always makes me wonder.  It really is MIND BOGGLING to realize how small we are.

 

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 04:56 AM

When Tim Peake gets back we should all wear ape suits.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:02 AM

Live re-entry, live now. 

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/6540154

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 10:41 AM

We are so small and insignificant, yet look what we can do
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Posted 18 June 2016 - 09:56 PM Edited by El Diablo, 18 June 2016 - 10:00 PM.

if we stop spending money on bombs and bullets and instead spend it on science and diplomacy, we can do anything we put our minds to!
 
Whirlpool Galaxies
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Fornax Galaxy Cluster
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Pillars of Creation
a famous Hubble image; this is where new stars are born. the baby stars are at the 'tops' of the pillars themselves which are formed by the intense burning gasses (which are extremely heavy and dense) as they 'fall downwards' and away from the star. in this particular case we see at least 3 new stars creating the distinct pillars of gas. the pillars are massive. we're talking lightyears in dimension.
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and this is our Sun in ultra-violet.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 11:34 PM

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Earth rotating around the Pole star
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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:47 AM

Good stuff.  :^:  :)

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 08:53 PM

Hi. I'm a noob so I hope I'm posting here correctly. If you don't feel like dragging out a telescope all the time, get the binoculars called Celestron Skymaster 15 X 70! You would not believe how much you can see at night with these! There are stronger ones, as well. You definitely need to get the tripod and adapter. They are very heavy. I found mine on Amazon for a good price at the time. I was very surprised at how much I really could see with these!

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 09:00 PM

I looked at 15x70, but it seemed like someting that massive was going to be good for sky watching and nothign much more. I was focussing more on 10x50.

 

If I point your pair of 15x70s at Jupiter, what can I see exactly? Have you ever had a chance to compare 10x50 to 15x70?


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 02:17 AM

I always thought the opening scene to the movie Contact was great.  It's not entirely accurate.  The Pillars of Creation are from the Eagle Nebula, and they're about 7,000 light years away.  At most, our radio signals have only traveled a distance of about 100 light years.  Still, it shows you how insignificant we truly are.

 

 

Here's the extent to which our radio signals have traveled.

 

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 03:10 AM Edited by Milky Way, 27 June 2016 - 03:10 AM.

Jesus Christ. These distances are absolutely insane. So hard to wrap my head around it.


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 11:15 PM

yeah but it's cool to realize that we're all made of the same stuff that's found in the guts of those stars.

we're all children of stars.

 

cloud formations on Jupiter

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Ghost nebula

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Spiral Galaxy M106 (taken by Hubble)

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the very aptly named Butterfly galaxy

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 02:21 PM

It's so weird when you look at those images and you start thinking about it and why it's there, and then your brain suddenly has a rush of every sensory perception of things around you in an attempt to prevent you from thinking too deeply about it. It's like it's rushing to fill a void.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 01:55 AM Edited by bodyparts, 01 July 2016 - 01:56 AM.

this is kind of maybe space related, right? I spent a good 4 hours just now binge watching il etait une fois.

anyway, great stuff if you want to fill your shallow mind with probably outdated french spaceology.
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:35 PM Edited by Milky Way, 02 July 2016 - 09:37 PM.

Mars with vegetation and water:
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Other side:
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Posted 05 July 2016 - 11:14 AM Edited by AiraCobra, 05 July 2016 - 11:18 AM.

Welcome To Jupiter, NASA Juno Space Probe arrives at giant planet

 

Took them 5 years and over a billion miles to reach Jupiter and Juno will only get to orbit Jupiter 37 times as it's so big, They could fit 1,000 planets the size of earth inside Jupiter

 

This is so cool, I was watching this this morning while they were waiting for Juno to reach Jupiter.

 

Shows what antennas are connecting with what spacecraft right now...

 

http://eyes.jpl.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 10:09 PM

yeah Jupiter is pretty sweet.

when natural gas auroras appear on the planet's poles it makes it look like Jupiter has a little halo. so that's cool.

 

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also, here's the Heart and Soul nebula.

what a great name.

 

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http://www.nasa.gov/...ge20100524.html

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 02:42 AM

old, but still cool

 

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 03:03 AM Edited by Mikeol2014, 07 July 2016 - 03:06 AM.

I have to say I'm eagerly awaiting some picture data from Juno. I know I know its not mission priority but after seeing the amazing new photographs of Pluto, I just can't wait for this. Great posts El_Diablo

 

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