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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:40 PM Edited by FutoLover, 12 April 2016 - 05:43 PM.

This basically explains why R* games take so long to make. They turn up an unplayable mess until The Benz cleans it up

The new red dead might suck :(

Who says it even exists at this point?
Most likely does. Only a small team is working on GTAO currently. Might be some dried out soulless static mess that would make V blush

Beastcast this Friday guys. Alex is gonna go down on this :D

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:42 PM

 

 

This basically explains why R* games take so long to make. They turn up an unplayable mess until The Benz cleans it up

The new red dead might suck :(

Who says it even exists at this point?

Most likely does. Only a small team is working on GTAO currently. Might be some dried out soulless static mess that would make V blush

 

I don't think I can be as optimistic as you at this point and yes I note your not even been 'that' optimistic :whistle:


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:43 PM Edited by MGgames100, 13 April 2016 - 12:01 PM.

So they went fully Cocknami and fired their main guy?

 

What this company has become? Worthless, toothless whore on the end of alleyway next to EA and Activison. I'm not gonna protect them anymore. I know that we don't know full story and we should stay in the middle, but anyone can see who the real villain is now.

My guess, why he was fired, is that he didn't agree on whole GTA:O concept. 2015 R* feels completly different than 2004 R*. They don't care about the consumer. They care about money. Not gonna play Online anymore. I'm not sure if I'm gonna play SP anymore. Not sure if I'm gonna buy anything from R* or even from T2.

 

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:44 PM Edited by GSTACK, 12 April 2016 - 05:47 PM.

All i got to say is Rockstar had it coming.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:44 PM

Sam Houser sounds so pathetic in that tweet. My god its so shameless. :S
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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:45 PM

So they went fully Cocknami and fired their main guy?

 

What this company has become? Worthless, toothless whore on the end of alleyway next to EA and Activison. I'm not gonna protect them anymore. I know that we don't know full story and we should stay in the middle, but anyone can see who the real villain in now.

My guess, why he was fired, is that he didn't agree on whole GTA:O concept. 2015 R* feels completly different than 2004 R*. They don't care about the consumer. They care about money. Not gonna play Online anymore. I'm not sure if I'm gonna play SP anymore. Not sure if I'm gonna buy anything from R* or even from T2.

 

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Yeh I know what you mean but look around...pretty much everything in this world is fleecing us. One thing to do is not buy a single shark card!

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:46 PM

So they went fully Cocknami and fired their main guy?

 

What this company has become? Worthless, toothless whore on the end of alleyway next to EA and Activison. I'm not gonna protect them anymore. I know that we don't know full story and we should stay in the middle, but anyone can see who the real villain in now.

My guess, why he was fired, is that he didn't agree on whole GTA:O concept. 2015 R* feels completly different than 2004 R*. They don't care about the consumer. They care about money. Not gonna play Online anymore. I'm not sure if I'm gonna play SP anymore. Not sure if I'm gonna buy anything from R* or even from T2.

 

Hopefully the same thing that happened to Kojima happens here.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:49 PM Edited by Retroview1955, 12 April 2016 - 05:52 PM.

We don't know all the facts, but hopefully this wasn't a case of discrimination.

Its possible that The Benz left Rockstar for a bit to do some charity work after buying a church building to revamp. (Assuming you know the story. If you don't stfu!)

Again, we are on the outside looking in, we don't exactly know what happened there.

Everybody's jumping the conclusions like they did when they saw Franklin's voice actor in the motion capture suit on Instagram.

 

How will this effect GTA and content development? I say 0%. I'm positive they have money set aside for situations like this, provided this is a legitimate claim and wrong doing has been proven on either party.

 

I was called a hacker in Freemode, because I chose not to use the event aircraft to collect the checkpoints, instead I called in my Hydra. I collected nearly all the checkpoints and somebody said they reported me for hacking. I obviously did not cheat, I just beat the system. Did it piss someone off? Yes it did, so they retaliated on me. Do I get banned just because of a sore loser? No. It has to be proven that I cheated, which I didn't.

Same thing applies here, so relax everybody. You'll get your SP DLC....

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:49 PM

Isn't going to end well for either party to the suit, or any fan of the series. Tragic.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:52 PM

In other news: GTAO has generated $500,000,000+ in revenue according to the counter claim

Jesus H. Christ
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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:52 PM Edited by BenDeR_, 12 April 2016 - 05:54 PM.

https://twitter.com/...927316466561024

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the housers are without "the benz" lol


https://www.scribd.c...-Rockstar-Games

Counter claim by Take 2

He basically saved RDR and helped mold out R* from 2001- present. Gonna be strange without him

 
And here's the full complaint filled by "The Benz!": https://fr.scribd.co...ies-vs-Rockstar
 
Thanks to Yan2295 for the heads up.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:53 PM

=something gold=

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the Housers are without "The Benz" lol

OMG that one is f*cking hilarious!

Well, I guess this is it lads and lass. We might never see the glory of the next GTA, RDR, and any future R* Games again. I knew something fishy would came after The Benz left the company.
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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:56 PM

We will definitely see games for R*. The quality of them will be in question, though.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:56 PM

 

https://twitter.com/...927316466561024

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the housers are without "the benz" lol


https://www.scribd.c...-Rockstar-Games

Counter claim by Take 2

He basically saved RDR and helped mold out R* from 2001- present. Gonna be strange without him

 
And here's the full complaint filled by "The Benz!": https://fr.scribd.co...ies-vs-Rockstar
 
Thanks to Yan2295 for the heads up.

 

 

Yeh hopefully someone can summarize that mofo. I'm off for a tearful lunch break........


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:57 PM Edited by Cr!minal, 12 April 2016 - 05:58 PM.

Some interesting snippets I got from other website.

 

Denial of Royalties, Attempted Return, and Ouster
73.
It soon became clear to The Benz that the “sabbatical” was actually an expulsion – the commencement of Defendants’ campaign to oust The Benz. By September 2014, Sam Houser had ceased all communications with The Benz. The Benz’ company Blackberry was remotely disabled without notice and his company email account was locked, over The Benz’ objections. The Benz requested access to the account during the sabbatical, which was wholly rejected.

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During The Benz’ sabbatical, Sam Houser terminated or forced-out some of The Benz’ key support staff. The Benz was not consulted about those decisions or any other business decisions during his sabbatical.

75.
During the sabbatical, The Benz had infrequent contact with Rockstar through Ms. Kolbe. He was not allowed to speak with any other colleagues at Rockstar, and was not allowed access to any data. Long-time colleague Andy Semple refused to meet with him. The Benz was now completely cut-off, including from colleagues he had worked with for up to twenty years.

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While The Benz was on his sabbatical and through the date of this Complaint, Sam Houser and Dan Houser (through the “Allocation Committee” comprised of the Housers, and one Take-Two representative) awarded themselves at least $93,000,000 in profit sharing distributions derived from the exploitation of GTA 5, and potentially as much as $523,000,000. During that period, Sam Houser awarded The Benz no shared profits, a violation of the 2009 Royalty Plan, his own fiduciary duty to The Benz, and the long-standing actual practice of treating the Rockstar Principals identically with respect to royalties. The Benz also failed to receive quarterly reports describing the “royalty pool” (as was his contractual right, and Take-Two’s contractual obligation, under the 2009 Royalty Plan), until March 2015. He received no notice that any Plan profit shares were distributed to his fellow Rockstar Principals.

 

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:57 PM

Same sh*t happened to my dad once,it's like they just can't recognize how much work some people put in...


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:58 PM

 

=something gold=

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the Housers are without "The Benz" lol

OMG that one is f*cking hilarious!

Well, I guess this is it lads and lass. We might never see the glory of the next GTA, RDR, and any future R* Games again. I knew something fishy would came after The Benz left the company.

 

Yup, ditto. Knew some huge clusterf*ck was going to happen,


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:00 PM

 

Some interesting snippets I got from other website.

 

Denial of Royalties, Attempted Return, and Ouster
73.
It soon became clear to The Benz that the “sabbatical” was actually an expulsion – the commencement of Defendants’ campaign to oust The Benz. By September 2014, Sam Houser had ceased all communications with The Benz. The Benz’ company Blackberry was remotely disabled without notice and his company email account was locked, over The Benz’ objections. The Benz requested access to the account during the sabbatical, which was wholly rejected.

74.
During The Benz’ sabbatical, Sam Houser terminated or forced-out some of The Benz’ key support staff. The Benz was not consulted about those decisions or any other business decisions during his sabbatical.

75.
During the sabbatical, The Benz had infrequent contact with Rockstar through Ms. Kolbe. He was not allowed to speak with any other colleagues at Rockstar, and was not allowed access to any data. Long-time colleague Andy Semple refused to meet with him. The Benz was now completely cut-off, including from colleagues he had worked with for up to twenty years.

76.
While The Benz was on his sabbatical and through the date of this Complaint, Sam Houser and Dan Houser (through the “Allocation Committee” comprised of the Housers, and one Take-Two representative) awarded themselves at least $93,000,000 in profit sharing distributions derived from the exploitation of GTA 5, and potentially as much as $523,000,000. During that period, Sam Houser awarded The Benz no shared profits, a violation of the 2009 Royalty Plan, his own fiduciary duty to The Benz, and the long-standing actual practice of treating the Rockstar Principals identically with respect to royalties. The Benz also failed to receive quarterly reports describing the “royalty pool” (as was his contractual right, and Take-Two’s contractual obligation, under the 2009 Royalty Plan), until March 2015. He received no notice that any Plan profit shares were distributed to his fellow Rockstar Principals.

 

 

Damn,they just kicked him out so they could get his share of the money,it must be... what a bunch of fcking greedytwats!

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:00 PM

 I reckon they'll settle for a smaller amount. $150 million is scandalous amount no matter what the circumstances are.


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:00 PM Edited by Piggsy pls, 12 April 2016 - 06:01 PM.

Man I can't get over that Sam Houser tweet. Lmfao

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

74.
During The Benz’ sabbatical, Sam Houser terminated or forced-out some of The Benz’ key support staff. The Benz was not consulted about those decisions or any other business decisions during his sabbatical.

 

 

what a *******************

 

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:02 PM Edited by FutoLover, 12 April 2016 - 06:03 PM.

 

https://twitter.com/...927316466561024

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the housers are without "the benz" lol


https://www.scribd.c...-Rockstar-Games

Counter claim by Take 2

He basically saved RDR and helped mold out R* from 2001- present. Gonna be strange without him

 
And here's the full complaint filled by "The Benz!": https://fr.scribd.co...ies-vs-Rockstar
 
Thanks to Yan2295 for the heads up.
 
 
Yeh hopefully someone can summarize that mofo. I'm off for a tearful lunch break........
in october 2009 rdr was a broken static mess and sam houser begs the benz to come clean it up

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#54

Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:02 PM

So they went fully Cocknami and fired their main guy?

 

What this company has become? Worthless, toothless whore on the end of alleyway next to EA and Activison. I'm not gonna protect them anymore. I know that we don't know full story and we should stay in the middle, but anyone can see who the real villain in now.

My guess, why he was fired, is that he didn't agree on whole GTA:O concept. 2015 R* feels completly different than 2004 R*. They don't care about the consumer. They care about money. Not gonna play Online anymore. I'm not sure if I'm gonna play SP anymore. Not sure if I'm gonna buy anything from R* or even from T2.

 

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Many gaming company s are trying to get over. look at Activison, Konami and many more. its ridiculous nowadays which is why i purchase very few games ever since next gen consoles had came out. I'm very picky on games and don't even bother to buy them near there launch days unless i know there from good developers like Naughty Dog (although Last of Us was highly overrated in my opinion). 

 

I spotted Rockstar falling  into this same category when they decided to abandon last gen who were responsible for the record breaking sales of this game. But okay lets play along with them saying the hardware is to outdated for further updates HOWEVER they could have at least compensated us a price reduction for those who were previous buyers on last gen so they could get a discount on Next gen GTA V. hell even EA and Activision did that for their FPS shooters BF4 and Ghosts at the time.  

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:03 PM Edited by FriendlyFireOFF, 12 April 2016 - 06:05 PM.

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/...927316466561024

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the housers are without "the benz" lol


https://www.scribd.c...-Rockstar-Games

Counter claim by Take 2

He basically saved RDR and helped mold out R* from 2001- present. Gonna be strange without him

 
And here's the full complaint filled by "The Benz!": https://fr.scribd.co...ies-vs-Rockstar
 
Thanks to Yan2295 for the heads up.
 
 
Yeh hopefully someone can summarize that mofo. I'm off for a tearful lunch break........
in october 2009 rdr was a broken static mess and sam houser begs the benz to come clean it up

 

 

 

........and that is just the first film in the planned series!

 

Any how as I've said before I can see this series or the whole of R* being bought by the end of the decade. Sony?


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:04 PM

So, do you all believe the Glassdoor complaints now? Rockstar is crashing and burning. :)

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:04 PM

So, do you all believe the Glassdoor complaints now? Rockstar is crashing and burning. :)

I did right from the start.

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:04 PM Edited by FiS!!HeR, 12 April 2016 - 06:05 PM.

Wow! so many things are getting exposed. It seems that Sam has ego problems, at least that's how I see it. I found this snippet interesting:

 

43.The Houser brothers had little interest in GTA Online, and did not focus on its development, all as reflected in  Bugstar.

 

 

It puts thing into perspective!

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:06 PM

 I reckon they'll settle for a smaller amount. $150 million is scandalous amount no matter what the circumstances are.


He was considered to be 1 of the top 3 at R*. He gets paid a sh*tload

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/...927316466561024

Hilarious tweet describing how pathetic and incapable the housers are without "the benz" lol


https://www.scribd.c...-Rockstar-Games

Counter claim by Take 2

He basically saved RDR and helped mold out R* from 2001- present. Gonna be strange without him

 
And here's the full complaint filled by "The Benz!": https://fr.scribd.co...ies-vs-Rockstar
 
Thanks to Yan2295 for the heads up.
 
 
Yeh hopefully someone can summarize that mofo. I'm off for a tearful lunch break........
in october 2009 rdr was a broken static mess and sam houser begs the benz to come clean it up
 
 
 
........and that is just the first film in the planned series!
 
Any how as I've said before I can see this series or the whole of R* being bought by the end of the decade. Sony?

I dont care who buys them. Without The Benz the games are gonna be ass no doubt.
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Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:06 PM

And here. We. GO!




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