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Poll: Do you find GTA IV's story "depressing"? (122 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you find GTA IV's story "depressing"?

  1. Yes (44 votes [36.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.07%

  2. No (78 votes [63.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.93%

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#91

Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:58 PM Edited by pedinhuh, 18 February 2016 - 01:01 PM.

Not depressing, but grounded.
A stranger trying looking for closure in chapter of his past life sets foot in an entirely new place for him with the promise of a good life, but as it turns out, the life he has in this new place is very far away from good, and now he has to go back to killing people and do errands for awful folks to help his cousin with his debts, while at the same time, settling down and trying to get by through the only thing he's good at: Crime.
But in a story that is either about letting go and forgiveness or about revenge, the bigger message is that crime doesn't pay and in the end, when we get to there, the stranger is sitting a nice pile of cash with a new home on a fancy apartment in a high-end borough in the city and he finally got the closure he wanted in his life, either by vengance or forgiveness.
But he's torn on the inside, by the lost of someone close to him and by the fact that the entire society around feels fake and praises money over everything.

As he says it the end: "So THIS is what we longed for, this is the dream" in very tired and saddened voice.

So, for me the story is very grounded on reality, with a very clear message in the end.

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#92

Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:02 PM

Yes. A not very bright shell-shocked ex-soldier....

I stopped reading.
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:11 PM Edited by DoubledRelic696, 26 February 2016 - 03:28 PM.

Of course it is depressing, but that's not bad. I love IV for that depressing atmosphere, i feel home right there.

 

I rather enjoy a depressing story than some highlife glamour crap. Maybe because it gets a lot more closer to reality that way. At least for me.

 

I find a bit of myself in the story and atmosphere of IV, i can relate to it very good.

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 06:24 PM

No, it's very realistic..being a criminal isn't always the top floor of Caesars Palace in Vegas up to your neck in hookers and stacks of cocaine and billions of dollars you throw out the window to the public.

 

It's a very harsh reality of what the world is, people get killed, you lose people you love and care for, and it's never pretty.

 

Rockstar clearly wanted to show us what it's really like, and they couldn't have done a better job.

 

Crime doesn't pay.

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 04:44 PM Edited by KevinBaconBabyGirl, 18 September 2016 - 04:45 PM.

Na, not really it's just a more mature story than the cartoonish rags to riches stories of the past games, I guess the endings are somewhat depressing but hey Niko is a criminal it can't all be happiness & blowjobs.

 

On another note as I say the game's climaxes could be perceived as depressing, but I honestly think IV is the funniest game in the series. 

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 05:06 PM Edited by B Dawg, 18 September 2016 - 08:10 PM.

Na, not really it's just a more mature story than the cartoonish rags to riches stories of the past games, I guess the endings are somewhat depressing but hey Niko is a criminal it can't all be happiness & blowjobs.

But it can all be Bowling & Titties!

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 08:36 PM

If anything, I think it changes the tone to light hearted a bit too much sometimes. Not enough to be jarring but maybe I'd like it even more if it was all just depressing :p

 

I can see how people who can't live 5 minutes without a fart joke, a dick joke and a tank exploding could find it depressive or boring however. Though I also think that shouldn't apply to anyone above the age of 12.

 

Really it's nothing compared to games where at the end you learn that "it was all your fault you monster!" such as

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:20 AM

no, i don't. because at the end you have the choice not to kill the junky. which let you totally free in the after game appreciation

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:11 PM

If anything, I think it changes the tone to light hearted a bit too much sometimes. Not enough to be jarring but maybe I'd like it even more if it was all just depressing :p
 

My only gripe regarding tone shifting is where Brucie's missions fall in place. IMO it's weird doing Brucie's missions in the middle of the sh*t between Dimitri and Faustin. I always imagine Niko focussing on the Petrovic situation instead of ripping on Brucie.

So now I always leave Brucie's missions until Niko and Roman flee to Bohan. It makes so much more sense as they're broke and Niko would probably turn to someone like Brucie to get his mind off Dimitri and such.
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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:13 PM

 

If anything, I think it changes the tone to light hearted a bit too much sometimes. Not enough to be jarring but maybe I'd like it even more if it was all just depressing :p
 

My only gripe regarding tone shifting is where Brucie's missions fall in place. IMO it's weird doing Bruciie's missions in the middle of the sh*t between Dimitri and Faustin. I always imagine Niko focussing on the Petrovic situation instead of ripping on Brucie.

So now I always leave Brucie's missions until Niko and Roman flee to Bohan. It makes so much more sense as they're broke and Niko would probably turn to someone like Brucie to get his mind off Dimitri and such.

 

Hey, leave Brucie alone. He's the Comic Relief there. Where else do you think he'd fit in to the Story then?


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#101

Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:17 PM

If anything, I think it changes the tone to light hearted a bit too much sometimes. Not enough to be jarring but maybe I'd like it even more if it was all just depressing :p

My only gripe regarding tone shifting is where Brucie's missions fall in place. IMO it's weird doing Bruciie's missions in the middle of the sh*t between Dimitri and Faustin. I always imagine Niko focussing on the Petrovic situation instead of ripping on Brucie.
So now I always leave Brucie's missions until Niko and Roman flee to Bohan. It makes so much more sense as they're broke and Niko would probably turn to someone like Brucie to get his mind off Dimitri and such.
Hey, leave Brucie alone. He's the Comic Relief there. Where else do you think he'd fit in to the Story then?

Not a knock on his character Phill. Brucie's awesome, but if it were me I would've made his missions become available after shortly arriving in Bohan rather than before.

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:21 PM

 

 

 

If anything, I think it changes the tone to light hearted a bit too much sometimes. Not enough to be jarring but maybe I'd like it even more if it was all just depressing :p

My only gripe regarding tone shifting is where Brucie's missions fall in place. IMO it's weird doing Bruciie's missions in the middle of the sh*t between Dimitri and Faustin. I always imagine Niko focussing on the Petrovic situation instead of ripping on Brucie.
So now I always leave Brucie's missions until Niko and Roman flee to Bohan. It makes so much more sense as they're broke and Niko would probably turn to someone like Brucie to get his mind off Dimitri and such.
Hey, leave Brucie alone. He's the Comic Relief there. Where else do you think he'd fit in to the Story then?

Not a knock on his character Phill. Brucie's awesome, but if it were me I would've made his missions become available after shortly arriving in Bohan rather than before.

 

OH GOD! Are you nuts? Having His and Manny's Missions at the same time would be too much. Comic Relief OVERLOAD!

 

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#103

Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:25 PM

The difference is Brucie's good comic relief. Manny's just an annoying douche. That's where I'm up to in my current save.

I've already heard "the streets" enough times to off myself with a shotgun. ;)
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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:50 PM

Depressing as in "wow this game is bad"? No.

 

Serious? Yes, but there are also playful moments, which makes the game feel real.

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#105

Posted 19 September 2016 - 02:08 PM

No, V's story is depressing because it was poorly written...
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#106

Posted 19 September 2016 - 04:51 PM

I did'nt vote.
Deal - Depressing
Revenge - Relaxing

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#107

Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:10 AM Edited by ESAgamer503, 09 February 2017 - 11:30 AM.

Not really. It is dark compared to other GTAs but looking at it from the whole spectrum it really isnt. Something like Texhnolyze is what you're looking for, if you want to talk about about depressing stories. It has some moments like Dwayne's death but even that is pretty tame. But it's a Nice balance in overall tone.

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#108

Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:03 PM

Yes, in a way that I like. 


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#109

Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:13 PM Edited by Mister Pink, 10 February 2017 - 02:41 PM.

It's a bit gloomy all right on all fronts but humorous at times. 

 

Visually, it's mostly a palette of grays in this metropolis. With not much green for contrast and certainly no countryside to counterbalance it. 

 

First few hours in, Niko is depressed from the war and isn't sure what he's going to do. He's also been disillusioned about Liberty City and finds the place strange. He probably doesn't have much capacity for happiness since he seen all his friends die in the war. 

 

The player/character/gameplay relationship is unique here too. Because with III, VC and SA and V despite there being other factors that contribute to our protags motivation, there's an element of greed and/or endgame that's share between the player and protag. Vercetti wants to take over Vice and CJ over San Andreas (again aside from family motivations). Our protagonist's success (getting money) is our (the player's) success, ie. having money to buy houses, clothes and cars etc. Niko's story us exempt from this to a high degree.

 

Niko's motivations are sort of PTSD and driven by emotion and not greed. He's seeking revenge, not the houses, clothes, cars. There's a sort of disconnect there. As a player, it doesn't feed into the videogame ideology of "winning" by acquiring the most cash/cars/houses/businesses. IT's

 

In that respect, I think it's gloomy and maybe even depressing. It's a bit of a sad story as Niko's motivations is to find someone who betrayed him. As a player, we don't share those motivations as Niko is new to me. I don't have history with him. But I'm on his side so I guess that's enough. 

 

As Houser described it, it's a rags to slightly better rags story. They also said it reflected the feeling around Rockstar after Hot Coffee etc. 

 

Of course there's the humour on radio to balance this and Roman is light-hearted and a fun counter-balance. He's forever the optimist. 

 

It's not a critique, just an observation.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 07:43 AM

Only the deal ending.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:22 AM

For me it was never the story that was depressing and set the depressing tone, it was the city. Everything in Liberty City gives a sad feel to it. The subway jazz musicians spending their days playing crappy jazz to the sound of screeching train brakes trying to make few dollars. The people in Bohan driving around in their beater Sabres selling drugs just to finance their family and wives. The constant rain and immigrants like Niko whom are f*cked-over constantly by over-entitled police and citizens, etc.

 

The city has more personality than the main cast does, and Liberty City's personality is very dull and depressing like real New York City.

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#112

Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:29 AM

Doesn't the first mission tell it all when Roman takes you to your apartment? This games a Rockstar masterpiece! It's good to be back.
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:48 AM

Of course it's depressing. I think it is anyway. But that's not a bad thing. It feels realistic. You can't get to the top without suffering losses, whether that be your friends or family killed or losing a battle here and there. Even then, your problems don't disappear. They are suppressed, but they still exist.

I like IV because it's an accurate representation of the criminal lifestyle. It's not glamourous. Not like V makes it out to be. It's a sad, bloody, violent, miserable road. It's even worse when you have to go it alone.

Wow that was deep.
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Posted 01 April 2017 - 09:57 AM

Compared to the other games within the GTA series, it is definitely a change...


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#115

Posted 01 April 2017 - 01:19 PM

Depressing in many aspects yes, but not entirely. Overall I'd describe it as a highly entertaining, dark crime drama with explosive moments of action.

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#116

Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:57 AM

Because I finished the game yeah, it was well rounded, you had comedy, action even heartfelt conversations adding a layer a depth, its depressing in the sense of Nikos true intentions and his mission, its depressing if Roman was killed because you just lost someone important, gone.

GTA IV wasn't that depressing to me, it was fun and action packed with a few depressing moments adding a few layers of depth what make Niko Bellic be the way he is.
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Posted 2 weeks ago

There were a lot of depressing or sad parts of the story such as Karen's betrayal, Roman's possible death, then Kate leaving, Roman's cab depot burning down, etc.

But it wasn't totally depressing there were a lot of awesome and funny moments within the story, although the darker tone fit the grit of Liberty City so I think it worked out well.

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