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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:33 PM Edited by MetalMilitia89, 23 May 2016 - 04:38 PM.

Also i really wanted to dig to files what color it is exacly but i don't really know where to search for proper files (that contains Proofings/Colors Attached to Vehicles spawned by missions)

 

main.scm and carcols.dat

 

Carcols has the EC Colors.  I'd love to be able to identify some.  Like the EC White Comet that LieutenantCB17 made note of.  Real of not?  There is other instances like that, too.

 

I'd also love a comprehensive list on the Proof Vehicles in this game and see what is left to be obtained...

 

You gotta get it and let me know!  Also, the EP Seasparrow from The Colonel's Coke.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:43 PM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 23 May 2016 - 04:43 PM.

Seasparrow seems to be BP/EP as well, but only one other one is fake and has no proofings at all, im gona save Seasparrow for check if it keeps proofings later meybe Jetmax since is very very slow even in water.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:45 PM

It would help to identify the properties using main.scm.  Guessing isn't really accurate.  How is the Seasparrow BP/EP?  Those people in Boats are shooting at your Seasparrow and if they shoot it enough, it catches fire...


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:46 PM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 23 May 2016 - 04:56 PM.

Meybe its BP Before you enter marker? i was shooting a whole bunch ammo and shooting rockets at it and it didnt do anything, but crashed it intro building and it catched fire.

True, Seasparrow have more health, meybe Jetmax as well...


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:49 PM

No idea until it's fully tested and checked in main.scm...

 

LCS/VCS is notorious for having Vehicles with increased health during certain parts of the Missions and not actual BP/DP/EP/FP properties.  So you would need to store this stuff in a Garage and check after the Garage door closes on the Vehicle and reopen and test properties...


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:01 PM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 23 May 2016 - 08:05 PM.

They are fake EP/FP both of them, only Jetmax is UH but its very hard to push it to garage, and its possible without duping mission anyway...

Also tried to dig to Proofings of cars in VCS, and its not that easy as in SA 

Example of SA Vehicle Proofings Script:

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First line is - setting plate number

Secound line is What car to create and where

Third line is what immunities are added to car

Fourth line is what color is given to car

 

 

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While in VCS this is not presented in main.scm at all, neighter PS2 and PSP.

 

 

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Perhaps there is Infernus from "Accidents Will Happen"

:REN_C1_9007
0044: put_actor $782 at [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 
012E: toggle_player $782 ignored_by_cops 1 
009B: clear_player $782 wanted_level 
0048: $5789 = create_car #INFERNUS at [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 
00D1: set_car $5789 Z_angle_to [email protected] 
021C:  $782 $5789 
01B2:  $5789 0 1 1 0 0 
023D:  $5789 1 
0334:  $5789 0 
0430:  $5789 [email protected] 
[email protected] *= 4 // (int) 
042F:  $5789 [email protected] 
014C: set_car $5789 health_to [email protected] 
0126: make_car $5789 very_heavy 1 

 

There is line that is interesting:

01B2:  $5789 0 1 1 0 0 

This might be Immunities given to vehicle but i don't know...

 

Strangely there is nothing about Spawn Color.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:13 PM Edited by MetalMilitia89, 23 May 2016 - 09:15 PM.

Lol, there is an Infernus in Accidents Will Happen.  It's the H/EP/FP/PP/EC Chrome Red....In the Guide already...

 

0, 1, 1, 0, 0 means FP/EP...

 

Heavy and PP aren't listed as 0 and 1, but instead it should say "Very Heavy" like it does.  It's set to "1."

 

What is so hard to understand.  The Infernus from Accidents Will Happen has been known for many years now...

 

Having a UH Boat would be quite nice, btw.  No Special Boats in any GTA that can be saved except SA and those are using OMF0 and from Boat School.  If this UH Jetmax was legit, that would be nice to have.  It also should be quite easy to push back to the Garage.  Beach it by the Chunder Wheel...Same place you beach the AP Yola from Unfriendly Competition and then push it back to the Clymenus Suite Garage...


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:30 PM Edited by Fooking Rekt, 23 May 2016 - 09:31 PM.

Bender why don't run this script where it spawns the car OUTSIDE of a mission and see if the color is the same everytime. If it is, keep removing code untill it isn't :p

Edit: There is no PC version, a.k.a CLEO nvm...

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:38 PM

All the things in LCS/VCS were found without looking in the Scripts...But after all the main stuff has been found, we should start looking at what isn't known or found yet.  No point in looking at the Infernus during Accidents Will Happen as it's already known and obtainable by normal means.  The EC Maverick was new, but sadly it's not AP/EC like it is during Accidents Will Happen at another point.

 

If you're going to copy/paste some Scripts into this Topic, try and do it with Vehicles that aren't known at all.  LeonTheKiller made note of an AP PCJ-600 in Burning Bridges, but I am not sure if you can get it.  You can already get this in EP/FP form, but I wonder when it's BP/DP/EP/FP and if it can be obtained, etc, etc...THESE/THOSE are the Vehicles we need to look into.  Not what is already available and obtainable for years now...


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:28 AM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 24 May 2016 - 07:31 AM.

No point but it was easy example...
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You asked for Barracks from From Zero To Hero, all i could find about Barracks there are a few spawning in this mission.
 

:LAN_B6_9351
  $5502 == -1 // (int) var == num 
jump_if_false @LAN_B6_9404 
0160: load_model #BARRACKS 
0228:  
031B:  218 -1 -1 
0048: $5502 = create_car #BARRACKS at [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 
042F:  $5502 3000 
014C: set_car $5502 health_to 3000 
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:LAN_B6_13737
004F:   unknown_check $5502 
0022: jump_if_false @LAN_B6_13849  // Note: the incorrect math opcode was used here
004E: put_car $5502 at -581.0004 -931.7473 20.9867 
00D1: set_car $5502 Z_angle_to 269.7435 
01B0:  $5502 1 
01B2:  $5502 1 1 1 1 1 
0230:  $5502 1 
0126: make_car $5502 very_heavy 1 
04FA:  $5502 1 
0050: set_car $5502 max_speed_to 25.0 
0051: set_car $5502 traffic_behavior_to 3 
02E9: set_car $5502 speed_to 25.0 
004A: car $5502 drive_to $5534 $5538 $5542 
$5546 = 0 // (int) 

This one is what you was talking about, there are two lines bettwen Immunities 01B0 & 0230
This might be TipProof & PopProof
 
Seems that it has immunities given ON BRIDGE since spawning cord leads to here
 
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After Braracks passes the bridge it changes to this:

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I can't tell if its Players Barracks or Lances...
 
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Here is PCJ-600

:NONAME_18_26792
0048: $5904 = create_car #PCJ600 at -1107.41 -904.0 14.78 
004F:   unknown_check $5904 
jump_if_false @NONAME_18_26840 
0045:   actor $782 defined 
jump_if_false @NONAME_18_26840 
021C:  $782 $5904 
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:NONAME_18_26928
003E: $5366 = create_actor_pedtype 22 model $5367 at -1107.41 -907.0 14.78 
0045:   actor $5366 defined 
0022: jump_if_false @NONAME_18_26985  // Note: the incorrect math opcode was used here
01B1:  $5366 1 1 1 1 1 
010F:  $5366 $5358 $5359 $5360 

And here is place where PCJ-600 has it immunities:

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:56 AM Edited by MetalMilitia89, 24 May 2016 - 09:58 AM.

Yeah, I knew it.  See?  1, 1, 1, 1, 1 for the Barracks OL so it's AP and it says "Very Heavy" and is set to 1.  It's H/AP, like I said.  I just am not sure WHEN EXACTLY and I am not sure HOW to obtain it.  But if it's possible, then it's easily THE BEST Special Vehicle to ever exist and would be obtainable in a GTA Game...

 

It's Lance's Barracks OL.  The one Vic is driving is FP/PP and already obtainable...

 

Btw, how about the ultimate Bike?  Light My Pyre has a H/AP/PP/WP/UH Biker Angel...Not sure how someone would obtain it, though.  The AP/EC Maverick and H/AP/PP/WP/UH Biker Angel are already posted to Youtube but it's showing the CheatDevice Method to get them and I don't care about CheatDevice nor do I own a PSP...

 

About the PCJ-600, I have no clue.  I already obtained it from Burning Bridges in EP/FP form with Mission Failure.  Not sure when it's also BP/DP with the EP/FP properties, though, and if it's possible to get or not...


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:59 AM

Perhaps if you start two Light My Pyre at once one lance wont ride his bike , thats what happens usually when mission is duped, secound actor that using vehicle dont move

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:08 AM

Yeah, when it was obtained on Youtube using CheatDevice it was blown up almost immediately after "TheGlitcher" was able to gain control of Vic after the cutscene.  Idk if it has to be destroyed to keep the properties OR if you duplicate the Mission, maybe it will be just sitting there and you can obtain it.  Honestly, the Barracks OL, PCJ-600, Biker Angel, Maverick would be enough to do a 4th Save File, tbh.  I hope these all can be obtained in their ultimate form one way or another.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:36 AM

Im gonna passs playthrough till light my pyre then and check what duping does, sure it will take a while its like 20missions or so

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:49 AM

CheatDevice Sucks

 

 


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 12:56 PM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 24 May 2016 - 12:57 PM.

Duping all of these missions did nothing, Light my Pyre and From Zero To Hero instanly fails when secound instance is started.

Burning Bridges Only set mission to OM0, if secound instance is started early it crashes game.

 

About Pink Maverick, the one i managed to obtain has no immunities becouse this one is from Cutscene so it doesn't really need anything...

The one thats flying with you can't be duped, even camera mans in Bobcat are duped but Maverick isn't so there is no way to obtain FI version.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 12:58 PM

That's a shame :/

 

I was hoping you would of found a way to get some of these :D :p


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 01:02 PM

I noticed something in Light My Pyre, but i think it can be done also on normal mission - sometimes very rarely, black SentinelXS crashes intro building and lance crashes as well for a secound or two, i had little time to enter Lances Bike so i managed to get to bike and press Triangle and surprisingly i was able to "try steal bike", but i don't know if i can enter it or its just animation, i might be wrong but meybe you can just kick off lance from bike when he stops for secound and quickly ditch it on water


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 01:05 PM

Anything is a possibility to try.  However, if that was the case, it probably would of been founded already and obtained.  But then again, you never know.  It took years to find out there was a DP Sanchez in LCS and it's SO f*cking easy as you just drive it away and it keeps the DP property...

 

Perhaps in VCS there is some easy, magical things like that, but who knows.  I wouldn't give up just yet and keep trying some things...


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:38 PM

Holy sh*t!!!

I just found method to get Pink/Gray Maverick!!

 

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Its very inconsistent though, also no blips remain on map i had mission running atm when screenshoted.

 

Oh hell yes! Proofings or no proofings, I have always wanted this EC copter! I think I have a save around there, perhaps I'll try to get it later tonight.

 

Nice guides btw, Militia. It's nice to see dedicated vehicle guides for the older GTAs.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:01 PM

As a tip, you have to spam X as soon as you see "Rampage Failed" Message, or a 0.5sec before, otherwise game will freeze, its quite hard to time it but it is possible belive me, ive done it like hmm... 6/10 attempts.
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Posted 25 May 2016 - 10:58 PM Edited by MetalMilitia89, 26 May 2016 - 12:02 AM.

 

Oh hell yes! Proofings or no proofings, I have always wanted this EC copter! I think I have a save around there, perhaps I'll try to get it later tonight.

 

Nice guides btw, Militia. It's nice to see dedicated vehicle guides for the older GTAs.

 

It's surely a nice one, but by no means would I do a whole new 4th Save File just to obtain it.  If there is 8 or more new Special Vehicles, then I would consider doing a 4th Save and going for stuff I didn't get yet, but as you know, VCS is tiring.  I already did 3 Saves back to back to back around September 2015 and am STILL burned out from VCS.  Plus, I got all the best Special Vehicles so unless 8 or MORE Vehicles are found, then I will do a 4th Save.  It's the only thing that will get me to do another Save at this point...Same with LCS...I'd only do an 8th Save File if more stuff is discovered...

 

Thanks.  All Guides are done with.  I have one for III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS, and CW.  In the future, I plan on making one for IV and TLaD and possibly TBoGT and V if I feel up to it...

 

As a tip, you have to spam X as soon as you see "Rampage Failed" Message, or a 0.5sec before, otherwise game will freeze, its quite hard to time it but it is possible belive me, ive done it like hmm... 6/10 attempts.

 

That's strange how that needs to be done, but no worries.  It's nice that this can be obtained regardless...


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:05 PM Edited by Bender.ㅤ, 25 May 2016 - 11:13 PM.

Its need to be done becouse if not, game will run Two cutscenes at once and game cant handle it, worst if you skip once game will start secound mission then "animation of walking to the doors" will overwrite cutscene and this will freeze as well.
Its need to be done in proper time with good X spam if its too slow, cutscenes will load even when "Loading..." is on screen, you must skip them quickly.

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:16 PM

Maybe I will make a list of Special Vehicles I still have yet to ever obtain in VCS including this new EC Maverick and do a 4th Save in the future, but I won't hold my breathe.  It's a possibility, though...

 

I just wish this thing was AP/EC...The only AP Maverick in GTA to date that is obtainable is a few in SA.  I wish the one in VCS was obtainable!


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 02:22 AM

As a tip, you have to spam X as soon as you see "Rampage Failed" Message, or a 0.5sec before, otherwise game will freeze, its quite hard to time it but it is possible belive me, ive done it like hmm... 6/10 attempts.

 

Thanks for the tip! I finally got around to obtaining the EC Maverick. Thing is badass! It was actually easy to obtain. I got it on my first try surprisingly and had no freezing game issues. And it fits nice in the Clymenus Suite. Excellent find! :)


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 10:26 AM

Have you done it on PS2?

Belive me its harder than it seems but nice you got it.


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 10:39 AM

That's the only Version he plays as far as I know.  I used to talk in PM with him 1 year ago and at that time he said he as PS3 Digital Versions.  So it's playing on his PS3 with the PSN Version.  So it's not actually "PS2," but close enough, I guess.  PSP Version isn't very good for VCS due to a horrible Garage Problem which I make note of on the first page.  I wouldn't even want to obtain Special Vehicles if I had PSP since it's so much of a pain in the ass to keep them in the Garages unlike PS2 and probably Mobile, when it is released eventually...


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 06:08 PM

Yeah, I have the digital PS3 version. And I figured I just got off lucky the first try. The most annoying part is that the bikers hate me, so I had to deal with less health and two popped tires on the way to the mission marker. But, I'll take it. I love the colors.


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 06:49 PM

Does duping work with Farewell to Arms?You probably get the EC/FP/EP/PP/HP Flatbed or maybe AP(?) Shark Gang Car?


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 06:57 PM Edited by MetalMilitia89, 05 June 2016 - 06:59 PM.

Oh yeah, that Flatbed would be nice to get from Farewell to Arms.  I totally forgot about it.  It's indeed H/EP/FP/PP/EC...

 

Never heard of any AP Gang Rancher, though...

 

@Bender. you should seriously copy/paste ALL the VCS Scripts into this Guide so we can KNOW which Missions to look into for new Special Vehicles...





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