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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:08 PM Edited by BLeonard, 17 December 2015 - 05:08 AM.

Was playing around a bit this morning, as I am finally able to become a VIP again to test some stuff.

Some probably know some of these things, but for those who don't, it should shed some light on how the timers work.

The VIP timer is 4 real life hours. After that time expires (or you retire) you must wait 12 real life hours before VIP will be able to be activated again.

However, there are ways to sort of "circumvent" the 4 hour rule. The VIP clock stops whenever you do something outside of freeroam. So, if you are a VIP and you:

Sign out of GTA Online, the clock will stop and you'll be able to pick up where you left off when you log back in.

Join a mission, heist, race, etc, the clock will stop and you'll be able to pick up where you left off once re-entering freeroam.

The timers to do the "VIP Work" are on a nonstop timer, like the 12 hour wait to become a VIP again. I'm referring to a timer that doesn't stop regardless of your actions as a "nonstop timer."

So, taking that into account, the options available to do as "VIP Work" are:

Hostile Takeover
Asset Recovery
Executive Deathmatch
Executive Search
Sightseer
Piracy Prevention

So, say you do "sightseer." Once the event ends, you have to wait 5 minutes real time to activate any of the other 5, or wait 10 minutes real time to activate "sightseer" again. But, again, there is a bit of a way around this:

Say after finishing "sightseer," you have 2 hours of VIP time left. Joining a mission (or heist, race, whatever) will stop your VIP clock, but the timers to redo the "VIP work" will keep rolling. So, if you do a race that lasts 5 minutes real time, upon respawning into freeroam, you would be able to run any of the other 5 "VIP Work" (the exception being sightseer).

Other things I've noticed:

1: If you have 2 characters, if one has run out of VIP time (by killing the 4 hour clock or retiring) you can still be a VIP on the other character.

2: The following "VIP Work" can be done in solo in an invite only session. Obviously, you have to be the VIP: Hostile Takeover, Asset Recovery, Sightseer

From my experience, sightseer pays the best and is the easiest. Just grab the three cases and get paid. I've made over $20K each time doing this. The others paid less and involved more work (evading cops or killing NPC's... Nothing major, but more than simply collecting cases) but, I only did Hostile Takeover and Asset Recovery once each, so pay may be different, pending on how long it takes to finish, etc.

Just some things I noticed and hopefully answers some questions for some that were wondering.
 

OK, very small addendum to this...

There is a time, albeit relatively brief that, after doing something out of the "VIP work" list, the game doesn't realize that the event is over, which would start the the cooldown timers to do them again. If you leave freeroam BEFORE THE GAME STARTS THOSE TIMERS they won't start until AFTER YOU RETURN TO FREEROAM

Just to be safe, after I finished running "sightseer," I went in and MADE SURE that the "VIP work" timers were running. Once 5 seconds or so ran off, I knew I was good. Once the timers start, you should be fine. Personally, I immediately bank after events and this seems to be enough time to get the cooldown timers rolling. However, I go back in the menu just to make sure.

TL/DR version: Wait until the "VIP work" timers start rolling, after completing something out of the "VIP work" list. Once they start, you are free to go do your mission, heist, whatever and the cooldown will continue to run.

Hope this makes sense.


Additional info: Added 10:35PM EST

Just some additional things I found out during my time as VIP that I thought people would be interested in:

If you are in any "VIP Work" when your time expires, you remain a VIP until it is complete (in other words, you don't get cut off in the middle just for running out of VIP time).

"Cooldown" time on vehicles seems to be 2 mins for VIP's.

While a VIP, you unlock the VIP tints for the Revolver and Switchblade (Duh). But, if you don't buy them during your VIP time, they will re-lock until you become a VIP again. After buying the tints, you can use them even when you're not a VIP (I assume the same is true for the bodyguard tints).

Pay is indeed dictated based on how long the "VIP Work" lasts. I only tried this on the aforementioned "Sightseer," but am relatively sure that this will be the case along all of the other "VIP Work." Sightseeer is on a 15 minute time limit. For those interested, payouts I recorded are as follows:

Finish with 10:30 remaining: $22K payout
Finish with 9:25 remaining: $23K payout
Finish with 5:00 remaining: $24.5K payout
Finish with 4:59 or less remaining: $25K payout

So, if you're grinding, common logic might suggest that you finish it with 4:59 remaining every time. But, at least IMO, I would suggest aiming to finish them as soon as possible. Look at it this way, as an example:

Finishing it with 10:30 left, you make $3K less than if you finish it with 4:59 left BUT you also save 5:31 on your VIP time AND get the cooldown timer moving 5:31 quicker. In this instance, where VIP time is limited, the extra 5:31 is more valuable than the $3K, again, at least IMO.

Of course, you might not finish it with that much time EVERY TIME but any way you slice it, stopping the VIP timer and getting the cooldown timer running as quick as possible is better than sitting around for an extra $3K or less.

Of course, if you start "Sightseer" without enough time to allow the cooldown to finish before your VIP time is up, obviously maxing the payout in that scenario is best.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:13 PM Edited by NecroNeedle, 16 December 2015 - 06:14 PM.

So it only lasts 4 real time hours regardless if you retire on your own or not?

The f*ck. & then the 12 hour real time wait.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:23 PM Edited by BLeonard, 16 December 2015 - 06:23 PM.

So it only lasts 4 real time hours regardless if you retire on your own or not?


When you start VIP, you essentially get 4 real life hours of freeroam as a VIP, unless you cut it off early by retiring.

Once that time is up, you must wait 12 hours real time, whether you're playing or not, to be a VIP again.

So, if your time as VIP ends, you log out of GTA Online and log back in 12 hours or more later, you'll be able to be a VIP again.

The 12 hour "cooldown" starts immediately after your VIP time ends, either by time running out or retiring. That cooldown clock doesn't stop for anything.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:25 PM

wow ok .__.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:28 PM

Makes sense. Just do a normal mission, race or heist after a "VIP work" to maximize VIP time.

 

Thank you for making your post very easy to read.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:36 PM Edited by Lazysunday88, 16 December 2015 - 06:37 PM.

1: If you have 2 characters, if one has run out of VIP time (by killing the 4 hour clock or retiring) you can still be a VIP on the other character.

Thank you for this. I asked in another thread but no one has addressed it until now. So those with two characters have 8 total hours of VIP per day, and ways to stop the timer if you need to step away for a bit. That should be plenty for everyone. Even if you exhaust your VIP time you can still do bodyguard.

Makes sense. Just do a normal mission, race or heist after a "VIP work" to maximize VIP time.
 
Thank you for making your post very easy to read.

This. Last night I did Mission, VIP, Mission, VIP, Mission, VIP, sell car at LSC, VIP, Mission, and on and on. The timer lasts a long time this way and money was pouring in (turn missions in at 4 minutes, ~1 minute loading screen, takes care of the 5 minute VIP lockout).

Fast. Fun. Efficient.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:36 PM

Too bad you can't stay VIP for as long as you like. Kind of silly.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:37 PM

Great post OP

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:44 PM

Too bad you can't stay VIP for as long as you like. Kind of silly.


My guess is, if they allowed that, who would ever be a bodyguard? Compared to VIP, it pays less and you don't really get any features.

I haven't been a bodyguard yet, mainly testing the VIP stuff out in Invite Only, so maybe I'm wrong, but if you could be a VIP all the time, what's the appeal for being a bodyguard?

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:47 PM

Cheers OP you fabulous bastard.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 08:04 PM Edited by BLeonard, 16 December 2015 - 08:09 PM.

Added a small addendum to the initial post... Just make sure that, after completing something off of the "VIP work" list that you go in and make sure the cooldown timers are indeed running (takes maybe 5 seconds). If you leave freeroam too quick after finishing the "VIP work," the timers will not start until after you re-enter freeroam.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 08:38 PM

Stupid question, how do I start VIP work? Lol

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:03 PM

Too bad you can't stay VIP for as long as you like. Kind of silly.

My guess is, if they allowed that, who would ever be a bodyguard? Compared to VIP, it pays less and you don't really get any features.

I haven't been a bodyguard yet, mainly testing the VIP stuff out in Invite Only, so maybe I'm wrong, but if you could be a VIP all the time, what's the appeal for being a bodyguard?

-Bill

Bodyguards make the same as VIPs in the VIP events, plus they periodically get $5K while in freeroam and bonus RP for staying in close proximity to the VIP. The downside is any regular freemode cash they earn goes to the VIP. So collecting a bounty, rob a store, do a gang attack, etc it all goes to the bodyguards VIP. (The VIP can then share that money with their Organization, give it back to the bodyguard that earned it or keep it for themselves.)
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:07 PM Edited by Icebergg Slimm, 16 December 2015 - 09:07 PM.

Good info. Managed to make $240k in a little less than 2 hours. Only used 54 minutes of the VIP time (3h 6m left).


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:07 PM

Stupid question, how do I start VIP work? Lol


Well first, you have to be a VIP (From Interaction Menu: SecuroServ > Register as a VIP).

Once you're a VIP, open the interaction menu again: SecuroServ VIP > VIP Work and select which job you want to start.

To be a VIP, you must have at least $1 Million in the bank and to start anything in "VIP Work," you have to be out in freeroam (can't be in apartment, garage, etc).

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:15 PM

Who pays the bodyguards? The VIP out of bank account / pocket? Or R*


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:16 PM

Too bad you can't stay VIP for as long as you like. Kind of silly.

My guess is, if they allowed that, who would ever be a bodyguard? Compared to VIP, it pays less and you don't really get any features.

I haven't been a bodyguard yet, mainly testing the VIP stuff out in Invite Only, so maybe I'm wrong, but if you could be a VIP all the time, what's the appeal for being a bodyguard?

-Bill


Bodyguards make the same as VIPs in the VIP events, plus they periodically get $5K while in freeroam and bonus RP for staying in close proximity to the VIP. The downside is any regular freemode cash they earn goes to the VIP. So collecting a bounty, rob a store, do a gang attack, etc it all goes to the bodyguards VIP. (The VIP can then share that money with their Organization, give it back to the bodyguard that earned it or keep it for themselves.)

They get the same as the VIPs? I figured they'd just get a part of what the VIP got but again, I haven't been a bodyguard, been playing with the VIP stuff in invite only.

I'm curious, if a VIP and a bodyguard do a mission together, say something like "Denial of Service," does the VIP get his own $18K+ AND the $18K+ of the bodyguard(s)...? Or is it purely a freeroam only thing? I'm guessing the latter.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:16 PM

Stupid question, how do I start VIP work? Lol

Well first, you have to be a VIP (From Interaction Menu: SecuroServ > Register as a VIP).

Once you're a VIP, open the interaction menu again: SecuroServ VIP > VIP Work and select which job you want to start.

To be a VIP, you must have at least $1 Million in the bank and to start anything in "VIP Work," you have to be out in freeroam (can't be in apartment, garage, etc).

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Thank you. I kept looking in my phone like an idiot haha

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:32 PM Edited by BLeonard, 17 December 2015 - 03:33 AM.

Who pays the bodyguards? The VIP out of bank account / pocket? Or R*


That's one of questions I still have that I haven't gotten answer to. Another being "Can a bodyguard quit, or must the VIP fire them?

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 03:57 AM

Added some new info that might be valuable, especially to those looking to grind "Sightseeer."

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:01 AM

"Can a bodyguard quit, or must the VIP fire them?

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a bodyguard is like a free agent in freeroam, you become "available" to the VIPs by activating the "looking for job" feature in SecuroServ (interactive menu), once hired by an organization you get access to the bodyguard menu under SecuroServ (interactive menu), you can spawn turret limo and other vehicles for free with a 5mins cooldown and from that same menu you can quit at any given time.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:13 AM Edited by BLeonard, 17 December 2015 - 05:14 AM.

"Can a bodyguard quit, or must the VIP fire them?

-Bill


a bodyguard is like a free agent in freeroam, you become "available" to the VIPs by activating the "looking for job" feature in SecuroServ (interactive menu), once hired by an organization you get access to the bodyguard menu under SecuroServ (interactive menu), you can spawn turret limo and other vehicles for free with a 5mins cooldown and from that same menu you can quit at any given time.


Makes sense, thanks for the info. The spawn cooldown for VIPs seems to be 2 minutes (added to initial post, had forgot about it until now).

Regarding spawning the vehicles for free... Does your VIP have to own them in order for them to spawn for free? Reason I ask is, as a VIP, I could spawn the Buzzard (which I own) for free, but the vehicles I don't own (such as the turret limo or the new armored vehicles) all cost a fee to spawn.

I'm just curious if it might have appeared as a free spawn for you as a bodyguard, because your VIP at the time owned it.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:28 AM

 

Who pays the bodyguards? The VIP out of bank account / pocket? Or R*


That's one of questions I still have that I haven't gotten answer to. Another being "Can a bodyguard quit, or must the VIP fire them?

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I am pretty sure they can quit, I want to say I had one quit on me.


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:58 AM

"Can a bodyguard quit, or must the VIP fire them?

-Bill

a bodyguard is like a free agent in freeroam, you become "available" to the VIPs by activating the "looking for job" feature in SecuroServ (interactive menu), once hired by an organization you get access to the bodyguard menu under SecuroServ (interactive menu), you can spawn turret limo and other vehicles for free with a 5mins cooldown and from that same menu you can quit at any given time.
Makes sense, thanks for the info. The spawn cooldown for VIPs seems to be 2 minutes (added to initial post, had forgot about it until now).

Regarding spawning the vehicles for free... Does your VIP have to own them in order for them to spawn for free? Reason I ask is, as a VIP, I could spawn the Buzzard (which I own) for free, but the vehicles I don't own (such as the turret limo or the new armored vehicles) all cost a fee to spawn.

I'm just curious if it might have appeared as a free spawn for you as a bodyguard, because your VIP at the time owned it.

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mmm could be the case, th vip was a millionaire friend of mine, sure he bought everything, so yeah its very likely it was free because he owned the vehicles.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:24 AM

How do you manage to do Hostile Takeover in a solo invite-only session?  The only jobs not grayed out for me are Asset Recovery (sux - a pain for little $$$) and Sightseer (enjoying all the cash coming in). 


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:42 AM

How do you manage to do Hostile Takeover in a solo invite-only session?  The only jobs not grayed out for me are Asset Recovery (sux - a pain for little $$$) and Sightseer (enjoying all the cash coming in).


It's never been grayed out for me... Does it give any notes when you hover over it? I know the other grayed out ones give notes as to why they're grayed out when hovered over in the menu.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:59 AM

I haven't seen Hostile Takeover greyed out either, and I did the first 3 hours of my VIP run in a private session just testing things out.

 

This isn't very helpful/important, but if you are driving one of the VIP cars you called in when your VIP time runs out, the car will come to a stop and kick you out. Or at least it will if you don't own the vehicle, I was test driving the new Baller when my time ran out and it kicked me out. Not sure about owning the car.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:50 PM

Not that I've played constantly, but I've been a VIP since my earlier post in here. Whenever my timer gets low for VIP work, I just hop into a gang attack and the timer goes back up when I start more work.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:52 PM

I REALLY hate the VIP timer... it serves no purpose.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 05:39 PM

Nvm finally got kicked as VIP




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