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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:07 PM Edited by Zello, 09 June 2017 - 12:01 AM.

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Like the title says do you guys think we'll have a game focused on the Mafia?

 

The past couple of games we've seen the world of crime through the eyes of a freelance hired gun, bikers,a nightclub bouncer, and a couple of Bank robbers.

 

We've seen the Mafia in GTA since III with The Leones and Claude doing a couple of jobs for them before finding out Salvatores plan for him and ending his ties with them for good.

 

In VC Tommy is sent down by the Forellis to set up and expand down in Vice City but you didn't really feel like a Mobster.

 

LCS was the game that tried to go for a mob focus but instead Toni felt more like a personal errand boy for Salvatore and not like a member of the Mob.

 

In IV we see the Mafia trying to survive and stay relevant, everything they try to do always ends up failing. As seen with the entire diamond fiasco, and the H they stole from the triads. Most of their members end up ratting each other out and the rest of the city doesn't fear them anymore.

Like Teddy Benavides said in his final moments in GTA IV "Those putos too old. They finished, fool. This city don't belong to them no more."

 

If R* decides to focus on the mob again how do you think a game could work? Do you even think they'll work on something like this? Their cousins at 2K look like they are handling the Mob thing.

 

If they ever decide to do a GTA based around the Mafia I'd like to see a character trying to work his way up the ladder and become a Made man.

A Brendan Filone/Chris Moltisanti type only smarter.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:32 AM

I don´t know much about modern mob and would a mob setting work in the present,but in my opinion if they want to make a good game about the mob they should make the setting in the past,maybe in the 70s (that decade was a good time for the mob,it was never seen in GTA before,and it´s not too far in the past to look more like Mafia than GTA).As for the location,I think Liberty City and Alderney,some city in the midwest or Las Venturas would be good choices.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:55 AM

No. That dead horse has been beaten to death.
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:57 AM

I've been wondering the same thing for years Zello. While GTA has always touched on the Mafia, never have they gone so in depth that we felt apart of the Mobster lifestyle. GTA IV was pretty good about it getting us involved with em, but we were still just a fresh off the boat killer. I think the problem lies in the unavoidable comparisons to the Godfather and Mafia games, as well as the fact that if they went classic Mafia with it they would need to reinvent many aspects of GTA to fit the time frame, but I wouldn't want to play as the Mafia in current times. That said, sooner or later they'll get back around to it but if GTA V proved anything, it's that they're trying to take a break from the typical theme of GTA. 

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 01:16 AM

Here's the thing: a mafia setting would only work well in a period piece. It's unclear whether or not we'll see a period piece in GTA any time soon. The mafia of today is worse off than IV's was. IV showed the crippling culture of what used to be a powerhouse in criminal activity, but it can't keep up with the modern world.

 

The Mafia series is obviously the most notable mafia-centered game series, and they've done a fantastic job with them. If GTA were to set a mafia-themed installment during one of the time periods that Mafia features, it would be seen as "intruding" or "unoriginal".

 

Finally, take a look at what mafia we've gotten in GTA. Liberty City Stories was the only real mafia story, and it wasn't the greatest. Now, it was on the PSP, so there may have been limitations for Rockstar during production, as they didn't know the full potential of the system. Rockstar hasn't proven that they could write a convincing mafia story.

 

Honestly, I don't think we'll see one any time soon. There are many other areas that Rockstar can focus on before mafia, as it has been done countless times.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:08 AM

Personally, I feel that there has been enough focus on the (Italian-American) Mafia in the Series. Most of the 3D Era Games were heavily influenced by it.

 

If anything I'd like to see a Corrupt Cop Story, where you are the Corrupt Officer Protagonist. :)

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 09:37 PM Edited by ChickenAndBeer, 30 October 2015 - 09:39 PM.

I'd like to see a GTA game actually centered around the hood and with IV's dark tone. GTA San Andreas and GTA V had some missions set in the hood, but in San Andreas,, you didn't spend much time in Los Santos. San Fierro and Las Venturas is where the majority of the story takes place.

 

 

But I guess a GTA game centered around the hood would kind of limit things in terms of ideas for missions. Story-wise though, it would be interesting. Rockstar is great at writing serious and mature stories.

 

 

Sorry for the rambling.

 

Anyways, I think the mob has kinda been done to death.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 10:22 PM

I liked the first part of Liberty City Stories when you were stuck mostly in Portland, acting as the errand boy for a larger group, but even then I didn't pay much attention to the mob focus. If anything, there should be a game where, regardless whether or not you're a mobster, street gang member, triad, whatever, you're not trying to get to the top. You're not trying to overthrow anything or anyone. So long as you're just a cog making the big criminal machine turn, I'm happy.


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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:47 AM

Don't you think it's unrealistic for some mafia goon now to be involved in shootouts drive reckless without his boss getting mad and contemplating "whacking"him The mob ain't like those low budget movies you see on Netflix now days are they are trying to keep as much quiet as they can be that trying to make money sports betting they don't whack people as much because it's too much heat from the Feds American pop culture is obsess with them as for the question do I think rockstar could pull it off? Yes but it have to work with the "new" mafia meaning not Italian meaning you have to kick up money to the boss and hope to become him one day
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Posted 31 October 2015 - 10:53 AM Edited by RandomStunt, 31 October 2015 - 10:54 AM.

"Again?" i don't think we got a GTA With mob FOCUS. GTA LCS had the first chapter of mob focus, but then you had to suck off Donald Love and do a thousand missions for him.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 03:05 PM Edited by Osho, 31 October 2015 - 03:07 PM.

Best to work in the background as a professional criminal taking all sorts of deals.
Something like Jason Stathom does in the first Transporter movie.
"... a driver for hire - a mercenary "transporter" who will deliver anything, anywhere - no questions asked - for the right price"

Sounds soo cool for a game like GTA. In the context of GTA, the type of a criminal who can do a lot of things outside of simply being a driver for hire. That's what I want to play.
No bullsh*t minigames
No collectibles crap
Only focused on plenty of opportunities for crime related tasks

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 03:55 PM

Don't you think it's unrealistic for some mafia goon now to be involved in shootouts drive reckless without his boss getting mad and contemplating "whacking"him The mob ain't like those low budget movies you see on Netflix now days are they are trying to keep as much quiet as they can be that trying to make money sports betting they don't whack people as much because it's too much heat from the Feds American pop culture is obsess with them as for the question do I think rockstar could pull it off? Yes but it have to work with the "new" mafia meaning not Italian meaning you have to kick up money to the boss and hope to become him one day

I don't think that's anymore unrealistic than a fresh off the boat killer mowing down cops in between his hits, or a psychotic redneck activating cry baby mode and killing 50+ men by himself. You must remember Chino that the story and what happens in gameplay are two very different things and not necessarily cannon. 

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 04:17 PM

Don't you think it's unrealistic for some mafia goon now to be involved in shootouts drive reckless without his boss getting mad and contemplating "whacking"him The mob ain't like those low budget movies you see on Netflix now days are they are trying to keep as much quiet as they can be that trying to make money sports betting they don't whack people as much because it's too much heat from the Feds American pop culture is obsess with them as for the question do I think rockstar could pull it off? Yes but it have to work with the "new" mafia meaning not Italian meaning you have to kick up money to the boss and hope to become him one day

I don't think that's anymore unrealistic than a fresh off the boat killer mowing down cops in between his hits, or a psychotic redneck activating cry baby mode and killing 50+ men by himself. You must remember Chino that the story and what happens in gameplay are two very different things and not necessarily cannon. 

I know but what would make it interesting mission idea when these guys don't infiltrate a military base or even get out of there neighborhood because they fear the feds I can see mission ideas but they would just be "go here go"there shoot this person go back"it would be a great story idea if the person is trying to escape the mafia remember these people are about order not some cowboy sh*t

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 04:32 PM

That's the thing though, the story can be built within the Mafia itself. So for a very brief example, say our protag meets a small time member of a Family in prison. Through this man, our protag is introduced around to some other small fish. Our protag would need to prove his worth to the higher ups by committing small crimes that benefit said Family and being a good earner. These crimes could be things like extorting a small business, or wacking someone who's not paid their debt. After several introductions, our protag gets bigger and better jobs...eventually leading to our protag becoming a "Made" member of the family and that could be when the game really takes off. Our protag would then have great power and influence in the city, but I don't think it should progress anymore than that. I cannot see a higher up doing anything that GTA is traditionally known for...like stealing cars and whatnot.

 

This is a very cliched idea, but with a few tweaks here and there and with Rockstar's touch it could be something great. The game would be built around trying to move up in the family to become a Made man, simple but a solid concept.   

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 04:51 PM

...it would be a great story idea if the person is trying to escape the mafia remember...


That doesn't sound like it'll work too good. What's the worse the mob can do to you, kill you? Bah, you'll walk out of the hospital 10 minutes later. Their efforts will be for naught.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 07:06 PM

I would like to see a rise to power mob story set in late 70s Liberty City. They can even put Atlantic City in the game because that is when the Casinos started sprouting up and the mob was heavily involved. Our protagonist would be a young and ambitious criminal who rises to the top and it would show how he does things differently than the mod of old which would allow some of the reckless GTA stuff. He can forge alliances with black harlem gangsters and the Irish mob plus Columbian cocaine cartels who were coming to power back then. He can take part in heists similar to Lufthansa and have his hand in so called legit businesses like Casino's and nightclubs which were a big part of New York back then. It would sort of be a darker and grittier version of Vice City.

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:07 AM Edited by BlackSnow176, 01 November 2015 - 11:08 AM.

If you ask me, unfortunately, the mob and the mafia storylines are a thing of the past :(

 

Nowadays it's all about SWAG, fast cars and buff guys on steroids... Who needs Sopranos when you have Jersey Shore.

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:13 AM

If you ask me, unfortunately, the mob and the mafia storylines are a thing of the past :(

 

Nowadays it's all about SWAG, fast cars and buff guys on steroids... Who needs Sopranos when you have Jersey Shore.

 

Nah I think it's more cyber-crime and stuff. We should of played as Rickie. 

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:54 AM

I hope so.
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Posted 01 November 2015 - 06:18 PM

I hope we get another, I love these types of storylines.


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 06:20 PM

Who needs Sopranos when you have Jersey Shore.

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that Jersey Shore is still a thing?

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:08 PM

The answer for this question strongly depends on the future location. If we get game set in LC or LV again there is strong chance we may get Mafia theme again (especially if the game would be set in the past). Today the whole italian families theme lost a bit of shine in both real life and media. Dunno if the families just diminished, pushed away by stronger gangs or did they just changed their ways, but you don't hear reports about them too often. 

 

I wouldn't personally mind getting the game revolving around Mafia theme, even as much as GTA IV did.


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 09:10 PM Edited by BlackSnow176, 01 November 2015 - 09:10 PM.

 

Who needs Sopranos when you have Jersey Shore.

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that Jersey Shore is still a thing?

 

 

I hope it isn't, but The Kardashians on the other hand... ._.


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:54 PM Edited by Zello, 01 November 2015 - 10:55 PM.

^

Jersey Shore ended a long time ago lol

 

Anyway If they were going to do a mob story like people have said it needs to be set in the past. I'd like to see something set in the 70's or the 80's during John Gotti's time.

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:16 PM

It would feel like they would be beating a dead horse, even if it's in either the past or present.


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:25 PM

It's a tried gag, and it really would only work in a period piece - something I hope happens in the future.

Like it was said, in IV, the mob is portrayed as a dying faction. Struggling to keep up with the times. That's why a 70's LC would work so well.

Nowadays it's all about SWAG, fast cars and buff guys on steroids... Who needs Sopranos when you have Jersey Shore.

I don't know about that, scripted TV is having a comeback thanks to Netflix, and I don't think Jersey Shore is a thing anymore.
But a criminal story like that might work in a setting in the early 2000's. Working for Guido Dickheads with spray tans, trying to jumpstart your own organisation on the streets of Vice City.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 12:27 AM

Do not remind of Jersey Shore. Nobody hates that show more than people from the actual Jersey Shore.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 03:54 AM

That concept seems over used and feels like it would work in a game set in the 20th century .

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 08:22 AM

I wrote to R* one month after the original release of gta v. Told them that the next gta game could be set in Las Venturas and San Fierro. Do the multiple protag thing again, but this time keep it to only 2 guys. The story arc being something like the two guys have been friends since childhood, they run a casino together and eventually grow apart. Just like in the movie Casino with Pesci and De Niro. That'd be nice. I know that the mob thing is done a million times, but it's just that R* is so good at doing it.

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 03:55 AM Edited by Zello, 03 January 2016 - 03:55 AM.

I'd be happy with anything as long as we aren't the boss maybe a capo or something. Mob bosses really don't do much they actually stay far away from all of the action in order to avoid prison time.

https://www.youtube....h?v=APQ8Z_UyEak

The only time it gets a bit exciting is when someone tries to take them out

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