How the f*ck do you know for sure if there is a god, or if there isnt?
It's a similar principle to the notion of believing in the tooth fairy, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or invisible pink unicorns. Why would any rational, sane, educated person believe that something exists without any evidence to prove that it does? It's a mistake to see it as an active belief that God does not exist; it should be seen as an absence of belief in his existence.
Moreover, I'm of the persuasion that the classical Abrahamic God, even if he did exist, would not be worthy of worship because he's a biblical (pardon the pun) bell-end who actively encourages genocide, raping the women of conquered tribes and executing people for their sexual preferences, whilst simultaneously doing nothing to prevent generations of war, violence, suffering and unhappiness despite being both omnipotent and omniscient.
Just had to quote this because it's rarely so well put. A million likes to you.
I'm quite familiar with The Bible, as I was once upon a time a Christian fundamentalist, including the gay-bashing and the support of other inequalities and organized spreading of misinformation.
For those of you who don't know me too well, I work for the church as the main verger/sexton/whatever for the biggest and oldest church in the district. While most of the preachings have become much more humanitarian and secular, every now and then someone recites biblical verses which contain the weirdest sh*t. We(they)'ll say "Amen" to the world ending as the day of judgement comes. (Side note, the private school to which I went was an adventist one, so I always went by their doctrine, such as that nothing happens when you die, until Jesus comes and judges everyone and we all go to heaven.) Anyway, it seems so strange to me, to say "let it happen pls" to the end of the world.
That's one of the (many) issues I have with religion, how it makes good people say, think, and do stupid sh*t. How someone could use a (homosexual) friend and classmate's facebook page as a vehicle for anti-gay propaganda all in the name of our good lord and savior Jesus Christ. Someone who went to the same school as I compared homosexuals to Adolf Hitler in the aforementioned facebook post. We had classes together. It's a very good arts school with high GPA requirement for admission, so it's not like she's an idiot or intellectually inferior. She's a smart person who got in her own words "salvation" from her now-husband. Religion is what made her compare her friend and classmate to Hitler just because of said classmate's sexual orientation.
I'm not a fan of any of the major religions. My biggest issue on the subject is secularism. Not only is it ridiculous on its own that the Right party currently in government has worked with The Christian (People's) Party and reinstated Christianity as the focal point of religion/ethics classes in primary school, but it is discrimination against anyone of any other faith. Religion divides us and causes conflict where there shouldn't be any.
Except that their beliefs reflect in most areas of their life. How many religious people are not against same-sex marriage or abortion? How many of them would vote for an atheist president? I can tell you with confidence that the answer where I come from is almost zero.
The number of religious people supporting same-sex marriage and abortion is slowly increasing by the day, certainly more than "almost zero". Being a Christian myself, I was homophobic and anti-abortion a few years ago. Now I support same-sex marriage and (to some degree) abortion, while my religious views haven't changed much otherwise.
As for religious people not voting for an atheist president, I think that's a perfectly understandable decision on their part, just as it is sensible for atheists to not want a Christian president in office.
I would really like to be friends with some of them but it would only take one question (on one of these controversial topics like homosexuality or abortion) to break the illusion that these people are in fact good people.
Something to understand is that most Christians grew up in a time where homosexuality and abortion were shunned. They aren't necessarily "bad people" for holding the beliefs that they have been taught most of their lives. A lot of them are either too stubborn to change or have never had anyone sit down with them and explain why homosexuality and abortion are not bad things.
It's not understandable on their part. I don't want to vote for someone who claims they know what the universe is all about, and what that is is some deity described in books written the in war-ridden middle east some 3000 years ago. They have the burden of proof, which is still missing. You'd think that in the 2-3000 years of something being completely true, there would be at least a shred of evidence in support of its most outlandish claims.
The other candidate is the one who says "that seems unlikely". Any rational human being would want the country to be run by someone who approaches such claims with skepticism. It's not at all understandable that someone would not vote for an atheist presidential candidate if the only issue on which they disagreed was that of God. It's irrational.
On the topic of homosexuality, how can you justify your own support for same-sex marriage? Open question to any Christian or Jew in here.