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#2251

Posted 3 weeks ago

Part of me wonders if May is the sacrificial lamb of the Conservatives - who they will feed to Labour, so she gets the brunt of the blame for the Brexit fallout.

It's a sound plan. British election history has taught us that voters will not always hold the mistakes of a PM against their successor. Everyone expected John Major to lose because of the taint of Thatcher, but people didn't connect the dots.

I think May will stay in power, but come the next election whoever succeeds her will simply steamroll back to a Tory majority by vowing to turn homeless people into kebabs or something.

 

Sadly, I just can't see Labour doing anything with this lead. I have zero faith in our people to elect them when it counts.  Theresa May could goosestep over a mountain of baby seals and people here will still vote Conservative.

 

I think the corporate shows at the conferences and the sponsorship both parties receive over this year will denote how companies feel about the two parties and the confidence they feel will give a clear indication of where we're going.

 

That's partly why this conference season will be intriguing.  Companies switching allegiances isn't uncommon, but companies are powerful voices in politics, especially those that control media outlets and if a few of those switch in the coming months....


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#2252

Posted 2 weeks ago

https://i.imgur.com/...b&fidelity=high

In favour of this tbh
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#2253

Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Crokey, 2 weeks ago.

 

*Fixed the link for you... and yes, it's a great idea.

 

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#2254

Posted 2 weeks ago

Thanks Crokey m8. Knew I wouldn't be alone in liking it.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

In keeping with the jokes, Newsthump has a distinct 'Have I Got News For You' ability to keep getting the detail ironically correct.. How long does Eeyore think we'll accept a 'mushroom management' approach to Brexit (Keep us in the dark and occasionally throw crap on us)?

In real news though, who thinks this week could go terrifically bad for the Tories? It's the 'Great Repeal Bill ' debate and reading on Thursday and who is quietly expecting Friday to begin with the current outline totally shot, or the entire bill thrown out? Things were looking bad for the Tories when the (still standing) regional assemblies unified to reject the bill and the Draconian style power hogging of ministers annoying a lot of back benchers....

Already the 'loyal' Tories are rallying the troops and the whips are screaming for the compliant members to attend. But that majority of 6 might well not be enough to keep the bill running, with the warring Tories split and squabbling behind their figureheads for Eeyore's scalp and Labours' new Brexit agenda looking much stronger.

It's gonna be a hot week and I suspect a very divisive result. Even if it does stagger through, expect the regional assemblies to offer no quarter or acceptance of it.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

https://www.theguard...ttitudes-survey

Great news, by moving away from religion we are also moving away from terrorism, sharia law, christian bigotry and paedophilia.

Come on Britain.

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#2257

Posted 2 weeks ago

I expect a Vice article next week about how millennials killed religion.

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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Finite, 2 weeks ago.

https://www.theguard...tion-even-after

Has he told his 6 children this?

Explained that if they're gay, they'll have to accept being second class citizens in their own country?

Would he tell his daughters they must continue a pregnancy no matter the circumstances?

Some father.

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#2259

Posted 2 weeks ago

You you provide a bit more context? The link is just a live update from Prime Minister's Question Time, which means it will be a useless link in two seconds. Who said what?

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#2260

Posted 2 weeks ago

Sorry wrong link, fixed that now.

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#2261

Posted A week ago

Well, another week has passed and the wheels of Brexit keep turning, slowly....  The latest rounds of talks due for Spetember 18th, have been delayed until the 25th and the delay seems to be for 'consultations' in the UK (Rumor is Eeyore will give a major, outline policy speech of some kind on the issue, but nothing is confirmed).
 
But time ticks on and Jean-Claude Junker has delivered his annual, 'State Of The EU Speech' in the European Parliament, the key points are here.  Seemingly to the dismay of the Brexiteers, Junker basically ignored the issue and instead centered on EU reforms post Brexit (The UK Right Wing media sees it as a snub of course, the only real mention was a sweet nod to Heil Farage with the message, "the EU will regret the loss of the UK, and I think you will regret it in time too.") But the EU is a far bigger beast than one tiny group of the population with a goal to end the entire EU system and this speech was not to be expected. The German elections end this month and there then is a 'stable political period', within the EU area, with few national elections before the EU MEP elections in March 2019 (when Brexiteers seemingly get their initial wet dream and the EU will move on).

The EU will reform and continue regardless of Brexit and Junker's speech outlined new ideals for the expansion of the Schengen area, the continuation and expansion of the single market and single currency (including the formation of a committee and board that will 'pre-arrange' national currencies for rapid integration into the Euro system) and the most stark proposal was the end of the 'national veto' for defense and foreign issues, with the further expansion of the 'Standing European Army'.

As is the way with politics, these plans seemed to split the chamber with clear divisions in certain areas. But the nationalist parties look like they might actually have to accept these proposals. The leaving of the UK will strip them of some of their most virulent supporters within the Tories and UKIP and could leave them short of the required numbers needed to block the final votes! Brexit is going to reform the EU, just a shame the UK cannot help with the reforms.... (Well, I suppose it has by leaving one side short of required numbers!)

Let's have look at issues within the UK though....

Phase one of the Repeal Bill has made it through the Commons, with a majority of 326 to 290. The Tories have now got their post-Brexit proposals into the discussion chambers and meeting rooms of the Commons where the 'Draconian Powers' that quietly unite Brexiteer and Remainer can be debated and reformed into a state where they might make sense and be actually usable, but will the senior Tories notice these reforms, or push their crazy plans anyway? All the way through the debate, the number of backbench Tories who were of the opinion that, "we'll vote for this Bill so we can actually try to reform it, but you better listen!" The final vote is due in 12 or so months, when the real votes over Brexit are all being forced through the Commons' doors so Ministers have plenty of time to notice the reforms, but since they're so blind to everything going on around them, they might well face a massive rebellion if they charge on regardless with the initial outlines.

The latest figures for unemployment have also been published these last few hours and at first glance, they look good! Record low unemployment figures and something that looks good, even in Brexit uncertainty. But look deeper at the numbers and serious cracks in the figures hide some stark truths....

These figures don't show the number of 'employed' who work on zero hours contracts and are not always employed every week, or on as little as four hours a week at rates well below the set 'minimum wage'. Add to this the general reduction in 'take home pay', in ten years, for every employed person and the number of employed that are coming from overseas to plug serious holes in key skill groups. Brexit is going to do nothing but end that 'migration' to fill the gaps and the amount of employers that want to actually employ local people to fill roles, but no one wants to do it as the locals see it as 'below them', dirty work, or even too unskilled! 2019 will show the UK what this gap means and the amount of 'fruit-picking apprenticeships' that will appear come that summer....

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#2262

Posted 5 days ago

http://www.businessi...017-9?r=UK&IR=T

Apparently "Not being told the foodbanks were there" is the only reason why food bank usage has surged from 25,899 to 1,182,954 since 2009. That's the only reason for an increase of over one million people needing public assistance to feed themselves and their families.

What a delightful man he is, letting the serfs band together to make sure they don't starve.

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#2263

Posted 4 days ago

Looks like Boris has been at the sherry again:

https://www.theguard...rexit-after-all

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Posted 2 days ago

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