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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:07 AM

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Interesting stuff (these could just be random renders, idk):

- Unknown place, looks like a restaurant or a meeting room of some sort.

- Living room of what looks like a penthouse. I doubt it's Playboy or Roman's tho.

- Random image of what looks like a Freeway, probably made for the cover.

- Random image of an APC/Tank (Kaletrack? Haletrack?)

- Playboy's Kitchen as found earlier.

- A car that looks like an early Esperanto.

- San Andreas' magazines.

- An early version of the Feroci?

That 'tank' in the upper right corner looks like the Sd.Kfz 251, a German halftrack from WWII (it probably says halftrack on the bottom).

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And that 'Freeway' is apparently a BMW R75 which was used in WWII as well.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:13 AM

Another thing: Most 24/7s have an almost identical exterior: The front door on a corner, and to each side 3 windows.I'm kinda lazy to post images of that here, so GTA Wiki.

 

Could probably say the same thing about the diners in the game. The diners scattered around have pretty much the same exterior as the accessible one in Hove Beach.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:00 AM

 

Interesting stuff (these could just be random renders, idk):

- Unknown place, looks like a restaurant or a meeting room of some sort.

- Living room of what looks like a penthouse. I doubt it's Playboy or Roman's tho.

- Random image of what looks like a Freeway, probably made for the cover.

- Random image of an APC/Tank (Kaletrack? Haletrack?)

- Playboy's Kitchen as found earlier.

- A car that looks like an early Esperanto.

- San Andreas' magazines.

- An early version of the Feroci?

That 'tank' in the upper right corner looks like the Sd.Kfz 251, a German halftrack from WWII (it probably says halftrack on the bottom).

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And that 'Freeway' is apparently a BMW R75 which was used in WWII as well.

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Even the headings say "WWII MODELER" so it's the most plausible theory. I doubt that these vehicles were ever ingame though.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:11 PM

The picture says R75 - low poly too :p

 

The kitchen is from Drusillas and the living room appears to be from Faustin's. Not so sure tho.


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Posted 12 May 2017 - 05:03 AM

The top row Ideal Living magazine cover has the concept art of Elizabeta's apartment.

 

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 05:50 PM Edited by DOUGL4S1, 12 May 2017 - 05:51 PM.

On that "In-game" image, the curtains are open and in the final game they are closed. Probably because of FPS reasons, so the game wouldn't have to render the city, her penthouse and the Cutscene.

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Speaking of Elizabeta's appartment, apparently her bedroom was probably supposed to appear at some point in the game. IIRC the only thing that appears is her living room and in TLAD, her kitchen is modelled, but I don't remember if it is seen.

 

So, I dug on G,L&S' files and found another texture that was slit in half:

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And here's it:

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Those white tube monitors tho. What's that, 1996?

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:20 PM Edited by mads1153, 12 May 2017 - 09:22 PM.

Looks like Elizabeth living room did have in the beginning static background of the Bohan behind because it's not finished, not really rendering of the outside Bohan. Later maybe Rockstar did cut it because it was unnecessary and it did not have correct feel because in the cutscene involves party dancing that have much lower lightning. 

 

For Doug pictures:

Middle to left on first picture looks like beta friends to Luis. 

 

Last picture is I am unsure about this, but looks like a restaurant because it has chairs and tables. You can see it's two cash register there.


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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:26 PM Edited by DOUGL4S1, 13 May 2017 - 02:09 AM.

Last picture is I am unsure about this, but looks like a restaurant because it has chairs and tables. You can see it's two cash register there.

I think it looks like Cubicals with old computers. You could be right, but this location is not in-game anyways. At least not like that.


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Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:50 PM

 

Last picture is I am unsure about this, but looks like a restaurant because it has chairs and tables. You can see it's two cash register there.

I think it looks like Cubicals with old computers. You could be right, but this location is not in-game anyways. At least not like that.

 

 

You are more right, maybe beta Internet Cafe that got cut and was redesigned from ground up. Cash register was really telephone...


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:23 AM

not sure if this was already mentioned, but i found an official beta map on one of the phone books inside the bohan apartment while i was shooting at plates and such. I'm not too familiar with openiv, so maybe someone could look inside the bohan safehouse files and extract a better image. http://imgur.com/a/kiLBD


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:26 AM

not sure if this was already mentioned, but i found an official beta map on one of the phone books inside the bohan apartment while i was shooting at plates and such. I'm not too familiar with openiv, so maybe someone could look inside the bohan safehouse files and extract a better image. http://imgur.com/a/kiLBD

Welcome to GTA Forums!

 

And yes, this has been discussed before, back in Page 1.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:34 AM

Awww, sorry i reapeated, also thanks
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:25 PM Edited by BrownieBear, 17 May 2017 - 06:26 PM.

What car is that sedan? isn't that the 'unknown' sedan from another screenshot?
I dont mean the Feroci but the olderl ooking
 
Btw, tested the barber thing
weird white windows just because the textures aren't working for this one.. just swtiched names thats all

 

Shhh, it's alllllll nothing, just the upper one, that was my question.
 
Nevermind, got it :D

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:49 AM Edited by Tomasino, 19 May 2017 - 01:41 AM.

Probably another proof that standalone EFLC wasn't initially intended is that there are no voice recordings of requests for taxi driver to change the radio station either to RamJam, Self-Actualization, or Vice City FM (exclusive standalone-EFLC stations) in both Johnny's and Luis' soundbanks. On the contrary, there are voice recordings for every IV radio station (it means including the ones cut in standalone EFLC) which are being said by protagonist, as expected, when playing the episodes as IV DLCs.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:22 AM

is this on the star junction, it looks somehow early:

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:44 PM

is this on the star junction, it looks somehow early:

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Looks like one of the Cluckin' Bell renders we found on that one portfolio site.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:55 PM

 

is this on the star junction, it looks somehow early:

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Looks like one of the Cluckin' Bell renders we found on that one portfolio site.

 

Because it is, with another image overlaying it and some weird wave-y effect.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 12:24 AM

Gonna "announce" something here.
A friend has recently spoken to some very interesting people. He will soon recieve a 1TB drive filled with beta versions of games/source code. A build of GTA IV is mentioned. He doesent have the HDD yet and will probaly recieve it before next month some time.

What i know is that this build is from late 2007 or early 2008 (person said he doesent remember), its PS3 and according to him there is no debug menu he could find.

He doesent know much anymore as he couldnt test it recently (and hasnt for years).
I bet there will be some changes and some good leftovers. I'll update the thread sometime later when i get my hands on it.
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Posted 27 May 2017 - 12:38 AM

Unless he got that from Rockstar itself, I doubt it is true, and even if he did, I still kinda doubt it. Rockstar is very very strict about Beta content leaking, so much that devs usually hang around this and GTA V's Beta Hunt thread looking for portfolios to delete, and I even doubt Rockstar themselves still have early builds of games. The only way I can see that is if he got that from a Journalist or something.

 

But then again, i'll judge that when I see it.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 12:53 AM Edited by CarsonGT, 27 May 2017 - 02:21 AM.

Unless he got that from Rockstar itself, I doubt it is true, and even if he did, I still kinda doubt it. Rockstar is very very strict about Beta content leaking, so much that devs usually hang around this and GTA V's Beta Hunt thread looking for portfolios to delete, and I even doubt Rockstar themselves still have early builds of games. The only way I can see that is if he got that from a Journalist or something.
 
But then again, i'll judge that when I see it.

It's true, trust me.

 

Person has given me some builds of games before. He has alot of confidential stuff. (his room is filled with developer kits of all kinds of systems)

GTA beta's arent as rare as you think they are.

 

There was an EFLC build floating around Assemblergames.com that i almost got my hands on.

I also knew a person who had a SA beta XBOX disc once, never got my hands on that aswell.

 

Plus ofcourse the more well-known San Andreas XBOX debug build that was ''sold'' on Assembler. It was discussed here in some San Andreas beta topic before...

 

So yeah, this is 100% real and you'll soon be able to see some kind of GTA IV build for the first time.

But just not extremely early. Still something though.

Also, alpha builds don't necessarily have to come from Rockstar themselves. Rockstar tests their games out on developer kits. They put builds to tests on their developer kits. Sometimes they forget to wipe the HDD before the developer kit is sent back to Microsoft/Sony or China (out of all things, also the place where they get sold out to the public). 

 

Alot of devkits that weren't sent back to MS or Sony are sold on collectors website, alot of times having good stuff on the HDD. This can be one of those cases. Although i heard it was most likely a beta disc that was given to a journalist. Still fascinating though.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 01:28 AM

Yeah and the guy's uncle works at R*, gimmie a f*ckin break dude.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 02:00 AM Edited by CarsonGT, 27 May 2017 - 02:22 AM.

Yeah and the guy's uncle works at R*, gimmie a f*ckin break dude.

It's not a joke lol. People who are in the collecting scene get almost anything they want to get their hands on, if they know the right people, that is.

GTA builds aren't the most rare thing ever.
The guy also has no afiliation with Rockstar. (i know it was a joke, hilarious, but i would still like to mention this) This is the only Rockstar build he has aswell. The EFLC and SA xbox stuff are unrelated to him.
Sorry, but you're denying his & my credibility just because you think "nobody in the world ever would have a build of GTA." Which is utter BS, honestly.

Anyways if i go on replying to "fake bla bla" comments this will make the thread even more heated, so i won't really bother.

You can choose to believe me/give me the benefit of the doubt or just call it fake, it again is real but, sure, whatever.

Just continue finding more on the game and i'll update the thread when i'll get hands on it.

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 08:22 AM

R* left the test facial animation in the files, that they used to see if ped models facials work how it should.
it´s only in the low facials not the high ones

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 10:28 AM

R* left the test facial animation in the files, that they used to see if ped models facials work how it should.
it´s only in the low facials not the high ones

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I think they are used when they are scared. Try pointing a gun at them. I remember they panicking and yelling with an open mouth like that.


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 10:39 AM

R* left the test facial animation in the files, that they used to see if ped models facials work how it should.
it´s only in the low facials not the high ones

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I think they are used when they are scared. Try pointing a gun at them. I remember they panicking and yelling with an open mouth like that.


no, i just picked a random frame of the animation, look at the animation yourself then you will see

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 11:52 AM

Found this

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:06 PM

It's not impossible for beta builds of games to "leak" like this. There are forums dedicated to buying devkits worth tens of thousands of dollars on eBay and other dark markets which contain real builds of real games. This happens when developers aren't careful disposing of those devkits, someone will be by the trash to pick them up. :p

 

But yeah, it's not impossible. I'll believe it when I see it, because this kind of stuff from R* rarely leaks, but it's not impossible and there is a culture about it.

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:32 PM

Sure, I'll give the guy the benefit of doubt. Just don't be the guy back in page 47 posting minute-long modded game's footage and passing it as real.

 

Also, if this is by end 2007, it's by the time the third trailer was recorded. There may be some significant differences, like mission objectives and visual stuff, but don't expect to be driving any cut vehicles.

 

Also, now that you've commited to this, play the entire game and record any interesting stuff you notice compared to the final.


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:20 PM

Sure, I'll give the guy the benefit of doubt. Just don't be the guy back in page 47 posting minute-long modded game's footage and passing it as real.
 
Also, if this is by end 2007, it's by the time the third trailer was recorded. There may be some significant differences, like mission objectives and visual stuff, but don't expect to be driving any cut vehicles.
 
Also, now that you've commited to this, play the entire game and record any interesting stuff you notice compared to the final.

and maybe it would be able to convert some things to the pc.
or example beta michelle, or the part of the shop script that let you buy the fingerless gloves
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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:51 PM

Sure, I'll give the guy the benefit of doubt. Just don't be the guy back in page 47 posting minute-long modded game's footage and passing it as real.

 

Also, if this is by end 2007, it's by the time the third trailer was recorded. There may be some significant differences, like mission objectives and visual stuff, but don't expect to be driving any cut vehicles.

 

Also, now that you've commited to this, play the entire game and record any interesting stuff you notice compared to the final.

If it is playable at all :p Most devkit leaks aren't really playable because they need specific things to run, but its files are definitely readable.

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