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#1

Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:34 PM Edited by mr toasterbutt, 09 August 2014 - 05:35 PM.

That there's no such thing as canon scenarios, when the player is deliberately given different choices? I'm absolutely serious.

 

Canons endings are only canon when the player isn't given any choice.... otherwise it wouldn't have been a choice to begin with.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:39 PM

There is in no way to say things are canon and not canon: if the company says it themselfs. There for, this thread is stupid...

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

Ending C is canon and you need to accept that you chose poorly. Dying and getting MISSION FAILED happens in the game but it's also not canon. A and B are both failures because the main character dies and it doesn't make sense to the story.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

Ending C is canon and you need to accept that you chose poorly. Dying and getting MISSION FAILED happens in the game but it's also not canon. A and B are both failures because the main character dies and it doesn't make sense to the story.

 

Where did Rockstar say ending C is cannon?


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:53 PM

 

Ending C is canon and you need to accept that you chose poorly. Dying and getting MISSION FAILED happens in the game but it's also not canon. A and B are both failures because the main character dies and it doesn't make sense to the story.

 

Where did Rockstar say ending C is cannon?

 

I guess they assumed that when Rockstar said we were gonna jump into the lives of M, T, and F again in the SP DLC announcement, then C would be canon,

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

End all be all: Missions with options to spare/kill someone removes them from ever appearing in another title.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:59 PM Edited by Xerukal, 09 August 2014 - 06:00 PM.

That there's no such thing as canon scenarios, when the player is deliberately given different choices? I'm absolutely serious.

 

Canons endings are only canon when the player isn't given any choice.... otherwise it wouldn't have been a choice to begin with.

Not exactly.

 

Here's an example.

 

In "Knights of The Old Republic" you play a certain character. You get to pick between the male or female gender. 

 

In a later, MMO-sequel to KOTOR, it is revealed that the character you played as in KOTOR was in fact male by canon, as determined by the writers.

 

There can't be two versions of the same outcome affecting every single player's game. A decision has to be made, and it is usually made to suit the needs of the story. In other words; picking the scenario that makes the most sense for the story moving forward. This decision is first given to the player, and they can accept it as THEIR canon, but there will always be a universal, era/universe canon determined by the writers or game/fiction makers. There has to be, in order for that story branch to be continued in a cohesive, sensible way. 

 

OR, they can just avoid it and never address it.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:01 PM

I guess they assumed that when Rockstar said we were gonna jump into the lives of M, T, and F again in the SP DLC announcement, then C would be canon,

I just don't get how would you could even continue the story, using the same characters that is. They're already multimillionaires and with option C, they eliminated all their threats. A prequel sounds more possible. Frank being a gangbanger and Trevor in the desert. Michael's the only problem with this prequel. Or we could get a North Yankton version, which i would love to see. Michael meets Dave and starts to plot the Ludendorff setup, while Trevor and Brad continue to push Michael. This time, the problem's Franklin.

 

But yeah, again, how could the story continue after option C?


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:06 PM

 

I guess they assumed that when Rockstar said we were gonna jump into the lives of M, T, and F again in the SP DLC announcement, then C would be canon,

I just don't get how would you could even continue the story, using the same characters that is. They're already multimillionaires and with option C, they eliminated all their threats. A prequel sounds more possible. Frank being a gangbanger and Trevor in the desert. Michael's the only problem with this prequel. Or we could get a North Yankton version, which i would love to see. Michael meets Dave and starts to plot the Ludendorff setup, while Trevor and Brad continue to push Michael. This time, the problem's Franklin.

 

But yeah, again, how could the story continue after option C?

 

I don't know. Maybe Rockstar won't focus so much on government corruption in the DLC. Since that was what V's main story was all about.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:12 PM

Couldn't agree more cannon ending is bull

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:33 PM

 

 

But yeah, again, how could the story continue after option C?

 

 

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:36 PM

zombies

If we can still get a true single-player DLC, i would actually like a bonus zombies mode. Make it the same as Undead Nightmare, but with cars lol


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:48 PM

I agree. But mabey the result is the same. Mabey Michael didn't die, mabey Trevor didn't due, in that case, the three would still be alive, but their adventures wouldn't go quite how you would think. Michael does mention the miracles of modern science, so it would be ironic to play as Franklin separated from Michael, Michael delegated from Franklin, and Trevor separated from them both, like GTA 4. Then if Johnny came back, looking for revenge, or accidentally bumped into Trevor in traffic, or on the street along with Michael who was supposed to be dead again, who knows what would happen. It is a video game after all.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

what about gta 4 i mean roman is in fact alive running the cab bissnis and

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:02 PM

 

Ending C is canon and you need to accept that you chose poorly. Dying and getting MISSION FAILED happens in the game but it's also not canon. A and B are both failures because the main character dies and it doesn't make sense to the story.

 

Where did Rockstar say ending C is cannon?

 

When they announced single player DLC.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:05 PM Edited by oCrapaCreeper, 09 August 2014 - 09:07 PM.

Ending C seems more or less like the real ending. It has official artwork depicting its final form, has the least plotholes, and seems like a lot more detail was put into it. The other endings feel like they were just tacked on for the sake of having multiple endings.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 06:51 PM

Although, personally IMO I do think C is the canon ending: lets see what R* does and say... Well, they did say that the SP DLC will continue their adventure in Southern San Andreas: So it kind of in a way confirms that C is the real ending. I think so 


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:59 PM Edited by Dark Bordeus, 11 August 2014 - 08:00 PM.


Where did Rockstar say ending C is cannon?

 

 

There's an artwork of the canon ending, M F and T looking at Devin Weston in the trunk.

 

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:45 PM

That doesn't mean sh*t. No ending is cannon if they  wanted a real eending they would of done one ending

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:05 PM


I guess they assumed that when Rockstar said we were gonna jump into the lives of M, T, and F again in the SP DLC announcement, then C would be canon,

I just don't get how would you could even continue the story, using the same characters that is. They're already multimillionaires and with option C, they eliminated all their threats. A prequel sounds more possible. Frank being a gangbanger and Trevor in the desert. Michael's the only problem with this prequel. Or we could get a North Yankton version, which i would love to see. Michael meets Dave and starts to plot the Ludendorff setup, while Trevor and Brad continue to push Michael. This time, the problem's Franklin.
 
But yeah, again, how could the story continue after option C?

Dont forget...the threat of Don Percival still exists. Just sayin

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:13 PM Edited by oCrapaCreeper, 11 August 2014 - 10:18 PM.

 

 

I guess they assumed that when Rockstar said we were gonna jump into the lives of M, T, and F again in the SP DLC announcement, then C would be canon,

I just don't get how would you could even continue the story, using the same characters that is. They're already multimillionaires and with option C, they eliminated all their threats. A prequel sounds more possible. Frank being a gangbanger and Trevor in the desert. Michael's the only problem with this prequel. Or we could get a North Yankton version, which i would love to see. Michael meets Dave and starts to plot the Ludendorff setup, while Trevor and Brad continue to push Michael. This time, the problem's Franklin.
 
But yeah, again, how could the story continue after option C?

Dont forget...the threat of Don Percival still exists. Just sayin

 

Merryweather is forced out of the country after ending C. Don thanks M T and F for killing Devin as well so he can buy shares, and doesn't want anything to do with them afterwards.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:17 PM Edited by Xerukal, 11 August 2014 - 10:20 PM.

That doesn't exclude Don Percival's personal stake in the matter. I'm sure that, with all the money he's been making after what M, F and T did to Merryweather, he'll want to exact some kind of vengeance. Not just for the sake of doing it, but possibly blackmailing the crew into doing some heists for him.  

 

It could go either way. After ending C, all existing loose ends are tied up and the trio go back to their lives. But this doesn't automatically stop new events from emerging. It's a living world, after all.

 

Oh, you edited your post. Okay then. I've got nothing.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:29 PM Edited by TheDeaconBosco, 11 August 2014 - 10:30 PM.

The DLC might continue after the main plot or it might go a different route, we may very well get a prequel to the main story, like the "Trevor" DLC showing him how he got settled in Sandy Shores, perhaps one for each character; who knows.

We'd need to know details before this conversation can go anywhere.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:58 PM

That doesn't mean sh*t. No ending is cannon if they  wanted a real eending they would of done one ending

There is one if the creator of the ending's says it is. just accept it and move on.





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