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Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:53 PM

This is from a 23 year old's perspective (comparing them to 50-60 years old's is just like comparing a 55-60 year old to 85-90 year old's)

 

Legal age to be in between kid and an adult (meaning that you're neither): 18

The legal age for adulthood to start: 20 (I think that 20 is reasonable, if not then 21)

For Alcohol: 20-22 (20 could actually work out)

For Tobacco: 19-20

For Marijuana: 18-19

For Shrooms (Tobacco is way more harmful, so legalize them): 18-19

To have a job: 14-15 (most are capable of having a job, and they have to start somewhere anyhow)

To drive: 17-18 (not 15-16)

To gamble (in casinos): 18-20

To gamble in the lottery: Why not make it 16-17 if they're working? It would be their cash (and it's not like there'd be any risk of them getting into trouble in stores as they wouldn't be able to purchase Alcohol anyhow).

To live on your own: 16-17 with a parents permission (otherwise 18)

To be able to have a child: While I personally think that it's a bit young to do so, 18. It's their decision anyhow.

To get married: Keep as is, maybe raise it to 20-21?

 

What should legalization age be on things in your opinion?

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

It's fine the way it is to me aside from the drinking age. I believe that if you're old enough to put on a uniform and die for your country, you should be old enough to have a drink.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:04 PM

Lower the minimum age for enlistment to 14, that way we get rid of all those little COD playing sh*ts.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:13 PM Edited by Myron, 01 August 2014 - 05:16 PM.

I think your list is arbitrary.

Also, 16

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:17 PM Edited by Killerdude8, 01 August 2014 - 05:19 PM.

Driving should stay as is, The sooner kids learn the drive, the better off they'll be in the future.

Shrooms should NOT be legal, That sh*t kills people. like literally kills people dead.

Alcohol should be 18 everywhere, (It's 18 where I live. :D)

Gambling should have no age restriction, if you wanna throw away your money, you shouldn't have to be a certain age to do so.

Again, No age restriction on employment either, That's just dumb.

And yet again, No age restriction on marriage, It's not up to others to decide how old people are to be ready to commit to each other like that.

 

Otherwise? Everything else is alright.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:30 PM Edited by Myron, 01 August 2014 - 05:31 PM.

Driving should stay as is, The sooner kids learn the drive, the better off they'll be in the future.
Shrooms should NOT be legal, That sh*t kills people. like literally kills people dead.
Alcohol should be 18 everywhere, (It's 18 where I live. :D)
Gambling should have no age restriction, if you wanna throw away your money, you shouldn't have to be a certain age to do so.
Again, No age restriction on employment either, That's just dumb.
And yet again, No age restriction on marriage, It's not up to others to decide how old people are to be ready to commit to each other like that.
 
Otherwise? Everything else is alright.



No actually magic mushrooms literally don't. Now I'm sure you have some anecdote about how your brother's friend's uncle's sister's husband ripped his skull off on mushrooms, but that means nothing in epidemiology. Now alcohol literally does kill people.

Age restrictions on employment aren't 'dumb', they're not big bad government oppression, they're there to prevent child labour as the whole point of consent laws is to protect people who cannot justifiably consent themselves; the same is the case for marriage.

As for gambling, well it is most certainly not their money if they are a teenager.

It really is baffling how arbitrarily people treat the way in which consent laws should function.
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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:31 PM

5 years old on everything.

 

Kids need to man the f*ck up these days.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:32 PM

What's wrong with one we have now.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:42 PM

What's wrong with one we have now.

You say we...


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 06:34 PM Edited by igotskiz, 01 August 2014 - 06:41 PM.

It's fine the way it is to me aside from the drinking age. I believe that if you're old enough to put on a uniform and die for your country, you should be old enough to have a drink.

 

This. So much this. 18-20 year olds should not have to suffer the responsibilities of adulthood without enjoying the benefits as well.

 

Not that it keeps anyone from doing it, however. It just lets you do it in public places (ie bars, clubs, resturaunts, etc).

 

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Anyways:

 

Marriage: 25, unless under extenuating circumstances (baby on the way, moving in together, etc). I feel this would be an appropriate time in people's lives where they truly are responsible and capable of making a decision of that magnitude.

 

Drinking: 18. Like universetwisters said, if you're old enough to serve, you're old enough to drink. But before anyone says "well not everyone serves at 18", all males must sign a draft in the U.S stating that if we go to war and we're short on manpower, we can draft people involuntarily into the military.

 

Sex: 15-17 while keeping the 18+ threshold. The vast majority of teenagers lose their virginity around this time anyways because of exploring their sexuality, but it can help in the eyes of the law in the case something is said. It's a gray area. And just because it's legal doesn't mean that parents or guardians can't still place restricitions, nor will society deem it as taboo.

 

Adulthood and Voting: 18, for the same reason as Drinking. If you're old enough to fight for your country, vote and pay taxes, you're an adult.

 

Tobacco, Drugs, etc: Depending on legality, it should stay at 21. But as far as "being legal", that's an entirely different topic.

 

Driving: 16-18. It should stay the way it is. The earlier they start, the better off they'll be.

 

Employment: 14, provided the person in question is willing and it's deemed a safe (or safe enough) working environment. Should not have a tax deduct in their pay due to not reaching age of adulthood, therefore no voting. Like said, shouldn't suffer adult consequences and get no adult luxuries.

 

Posing for Pornography: 18. Adults can make the decision if they want potentially hundreds of other people having access to media of themselves in a pornographic manner.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:36 AM

 

No actually magic mushrooms literally don't. Now I'm sure you have some anecdote about how your brother's friend's uncle's sister's husband ripped his skull off on mushrooms, but that means nothing in epidemiology. Now alcohol literally does kill people.

Age restrictions on employment aren't 'dumb', they're not big bad government oppression, they're there to prevent child labour as the whole point of consent laws is to protect people who cannot justifiably consent themselves; the same is the case for marriage.

As for gambling, well it is most certainly not their money if they are a teenager.

It really is baffling how arbitrarily people treat the way in which consent laws should function.

 

I've seen news reports of people doing shrooms being hospitalized, some of them died.

 

There should be no age restrictions on how young you can be to legally earn money as an employee at a buisness, If the child is willing to work for money, why not let them? Gambling would go hand-in-hand with the lack of age restriction on employment, Gamble the money they earned.

 

Generally when people are in a relationship to seriously consider marriage, They are old enough and ready for that kind of commitment.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 05:49 AM

 

 

No actually magic mushrooms literally don't. Now I'm sure you have some anecdote about how your brother's friend's uncle's sister's husband ripped his skull off on mushrooms, but that means nothing in epidemiology. Now alcohol literally does kill people.

Age restrictions on employment aren't 'dumb', they're not big bad government oppression, they're there to prevent child labour as the whole point of consent laws is to protect people who cannot justifiably consent themselves; the same is the case for marriage.

As for gambling, well it is most certainly not their money if they are a teenager.

It really is baffling how arbitrarily people treat the way in which consent laws should function.

 

I've seen news reports of people doing shrooms being hospitalized, some of them died.

 

There should be no age restrictions on how young you can be to legally earn money as an employee at a buisness, If the child is willing to work for money, why not let them? Gambling would go hand-in-hand with the lack of age restriction on employment, Gamble the money they earned.

 

Generally when people are in a relationship to seriously consider marriage, They are old enough and ready for that kind of commitment.

 

On the news! Like, the actual news!

 

No, shrooms don't kill you. They might have ate poisonous mushrooms thinking they had psilocybin in them. Moral of the story: make sure you know what you're consuming before you consume it. 

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:29 PM

Driving should stay as is, The sooner kids learn the drive, the better off they'll be in the future.

Shrooms should NOT be legal, That sh*t kills people. like literally kills people dead.

Alcohol should be 18 everywhere, (It's 18 where I live. :D)

Gambling should have no age restriction, if you wanna throw away your money, you shouldn't have to be a certain age to do so.

Again, No age restriction on employment either, That's just dumb.

And yet again, No age restriction on marriage, It's not up to others to decide how old people are to be ready to commit to each other like that.

 

Otherwise? Everything else is alright.

We sure don't want 13 years old kids having children. The body hadn't been ready yet to hold 'all that' and the parents still aren't ready to do such a thing.

Heck, even I won't marry until I'm at least 20.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:02 PM Edited by SingularSoul, 02 August 2014 - 03:14 PM.


For Alcohol: 16
For Tobacco: 16 (E-cigs should be sold to anyone age 14+)
For Marijuana: 16 (Legalize and regulate)
For Shrooms: 16 (Legalize and regulate)
To have a job: 14 (Scrap all the legal red tape. Install a minimum wage for ALL workers, and allow anyone from age 14+ to work as many hours as an "adult")
To drive: 16
To gamble (in casinos): 21
To gamble in the lottery: 14
To live on your own: 16 with parental permission.
To be able to have a child: The law has no say here, and does not deter teen pregnancy. Legalize fully, provide free contraception easily to under 18's. 
To get married: 16

To have sexual intercourse: Decriminalise. This law is "broken" so often it's lost it's purpose anyway.

To buy video games: Deregulate video games and movies. Change rating system to an "advisory" system, thus making it legal to buy games and movies at any age desired.

To operate heavy/work machinery eg. Lawnmower, hedge trimmer: 14

To sign contracts: 16

To vote in a political election or referendum: 16, with a blanket voter year ie. in the Scottish referendum, 16 year old's have been given the vote, but many informed, smart potential voters cannot participate due to their birthday being after the vote is cast THAT YEAR. Therefore, allow ALL potential 16 year olds to vote if their 16th birthday is in the same year as the vote.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:16 PM

Adulthood:20
Tobacco:18
Marijuana:18
Job:13-15
Drive:16
Gamble:20
Gamble lottery:18
Live on your own:17

To have child:When your ready(physically,financially, & emotionally)

To get married:24-25

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:46 PM

Are you talking about age determining responsibility at using drugs? Aae is not an indicator of maturity other than physical.

Really I don't think choosing an age should be the focus. It's about educating people on good and bad and that person making his own decisions.

Truthfully unless one has learnt control over his impulses desires he can't use drugs, gamble, smoke etc responsibly. That's assuming these activities are 'good' for him and others and he should be engaged in them.

The assumption by society is that the older you are the more you should know and the wiser you will be. Well this is never always the case and it's a foolish assumption. What if an aged person spent his life learning errors then his sum total of knowledge is useless.

Present people with the right knowledge of smoking, sex, drugs, alcohol, gambling as early as possible. Then sit back and hope for the best.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

18 for everything, but 16 for driving. 

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:00 PM Edited by Marwin Moody, 02 August 2014 - 04:03 PM.

What is this topic anyway? All of your suggested age restrictions are completely arbitrary

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 08:15 PM

You Americans and your weird legal age restrictions on things.

 

In my country once you're 18 you can do whatever the hell you want. 

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 08:57 PM

You Americans and your weird legal age restrictions on things.
 
In my country once you're 18 you can do whatever the hell you want. 

I was thinking the same.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 09:01 PM

Sweet Sixteen.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 09:28 PM Edited by IveGotNoValues, 02 August 2014 - 09:40 PM.

I say everything should just be 18. I've never understood how you're considered an adult when you turn 18, but then you still have to wait 3 years be able to legally drink and gamble. It's like, if you're officially an "adult" you should be able to purchase and take part in all adult things. I think the drinking age in America is complete BS. If I can buy myself cigarettes when i'm 18, I should just as well be able to buy alcohol for myself. Same with the whole voting and fighting for your country at 18 but not being allowed to drink thing. I know i'm just a naive 17 year old, but that's my opinion on it. Once you're 18 you shouldn't have any more restrictions placed on you, you're an adult.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 09:31 PM

18 for everything, but 16 for driving. 

quoted for truth.

 

18 across the board.

16 to drive.

 

oddly enough, I've also heard good arguments about having kids wait until they're 21 to vote...


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:59 AM Edited by Killerdude8, 03 August 2014 - 07:01 AM.

 

Driving should stay as is, The sooner kids learn the drive, the better off they'll be in the future.

Shrooms should NOT be legal, That sh*t kills people. like literally kills people dead.

Alcohol should be 18 everywhere, (It's 18 where I live. :D)

Gambling should have no age restriction, if you wanna throw away your money, you shouldn't have to be a certain age to do so.

Again, No age restriction on employment either, That's just dumb.

And yet again, No age restriction on marriage, It's not up to others to decide how old people are to be ready to commit to each other like that.

 

Otherwise? Everything else is alright.

We sure don't want 13 years old kids having children. The body hadn't been ready yet to hold 'all that' and the parents still aren't ready to do such a thing.

Heck, even I won't marry until I'm at least 20.

 

Hence, Marriage, Not having children

 

Generally 13 year olds aren't legitimately serious about marriage for it to be a problem.

 

And whether it's legal or not, Kids are gonna have sex.

 

 

 

On the news! Like, the actual news!

 

No, shrooms don't kill you. They might have ate poisonous mushrooms thinking they had psilocybin in them. Moral of the story: make sure you know what you're consuming before you consume it. 

 

Certain poisonous mushrooms have hallucinogenic effects.

So, Magic mushrooms not poisonous?

Not entirely true.

 

Might have got bad shrooms, or it reacted badly with their bodies.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 07:35 AM Edited by WhatsStrength, 03 August 2014 - 07:43 AM.

Driving - Permit at 16 and license when 18.
Drinking - 18. If you can go to war and die you should be allowed to drink.
Smoking - 18
Military - 18, 16 with parental consent.
Voting - 21
Marriage - 18
Gambling - 16. If you can have a job and earn money you should be allowed to play with it.
R-rated Movies - 16

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:47 AM Edited by Vlynor, 03 August 2014 - 08:48 AM.

14 for light-work.

16 for sex.

18 for everything else.

 

If a private business wants to only allow people of a certain age to do something (as long as it meets the above requirements), then they should be able to. For example, a rental car business should be allowed to set their own minimum. 


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:26 AM

I believe that if you're old enough to put on a uniform and die for your country, you should be old enough to have a drink.

Alcohol? LMAO.

 

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:53 AM

Games, television and books, regardless of what it contains; 0 

Work: 6

Sex: 14

Children: 14 (can't force people to wear condoms till they're 16, otherwise it would've been 16 for me)

Drinking: 14

Smoking: 14

Drugs: 14

Military: 14

Gambling: 14

Marriage: 16

Voting: 16

Driving: 16


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 11:01 AM

 

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 11:22 AM Edited by Waldie, 03 August 2014 - 11:38 AM.

Pretty much 18 across the board. Once you hit 18, you're officially an adult and you can do what you like (within reason). There should perhaps be some caveats here and there but one age fits all keeps things simple in my opinion.

 

I think the law is pretty sensible here in the UK already - in this regard, at least. It is 18 for most things. However, I would change:

 

Increase Driving age to 18.

Increase the minimum age for enlisting in the UK armed forces to 18.

Increase marriage age to 18.

Children should have to live with their parents until they are 18.

Lower full time working age / school leaving to 14.

 

It makes no sense to me that you can move out, get married, even join the army at 16, yet you can't drink, gamble, vote or go to certain movies. Rather than lower the age for the latter activities however, I reckon it makes more sense to increase the age of the former.





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