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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:08 AM

This was not mentioned in any news or anything yesterday. But World War One, The Great War, began on July 28 1914. It seems like such a long time ago, 100 years, but it is incredible to see how much the world has changed since then. Since I didm't see any commemoration or anything today, I thought it would be a nice gesture to put a memorial, for lack of a better word, thread on here. RIP all those victims of the Lost Generation.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:20 AM

100 years? Damn. RIP to the fallen.
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:36 AM

You're right and it's sad, Some would say WWI was even more brutal than WWII was and there were Big Events, Celebration, TV/Written Specials about the 70th year since D-Day the Landing Of Normandy my grandpa was a World War II vet and he took part in the D-Day Invasion as a fighter escort for the paratroopers and then he protected the skies over the beaches as the landing was happening.

 

But my Great Grandfather was a WWI Vet but nobody remembers him or his comrades it's just another day in History and it's sad how it just slipped by without even a whimper from anybody.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:38 AM

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:41 AM

Damn. Didn't know it's been 100 years already. It's a long time. R.I.P. to those who have died and battled in the war. And here's hoping there isn't another big war. 🍻

(Can someone tell why WW I/ WW II started anyways?)

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:47 AM Edited by Vlynor, 29 July 2014 - 04:48 AM.

Damn. Didn't know it's been 100 years already. It's a long time. R.I.P. to those who have died and battled in the war. And here's hoping there isn't another big war.

(Can someone tell why WW I/ WW II started anyways?)

 

Easiest thing to do is check the Wikipedia articles. The first paragraphs of each state the main causes.

 

http://en.wikipedia...._of_World_War_I

http://en.wikipedia....of_World_War_II

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:00 AM Edited by AiraCobra, 29 July 2014 - 05:37 AM.

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These are some posters from during WWI

 

America

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England

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Austria-Hungry

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Russia

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France

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German

 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:08 AM

These are better, though.

 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:38 AM Edited by AiraCobra, 29 July 2014 - 05:38 AM.

Damn. Didn't know it's been 100 years already. It's a long time. R.I.P. to those who have died and battled in the war. And here's hoping there isn't another big war.

(Can someone tell why WW I/ WW II started anyways?)

Here is what i know about WWI and the days leading up to war being declared but after that i couldn't tell you much but if you have any questions about WWII i will be glad to answer them i minored in History in Collage with special attention to World War II

 

But what i do know about WWI is it started with political, territorial and economic disputes between the euro powers in the region and it all came to a head and the war started with the assassination of Arcduke Franz Ferdinand by Serbian that led to the germans declaring it's support for Austria-Hungry they send demands to the Serbian and if they didn't replay after a 2 days they were going to exact harsh punishments Great Britain & Russia were sympathetic with most of the demands but asked for a time extention because they felt 48 hours was too short of a time to meet the demands.

 

The Serbian agreed to most of their demands but the Serbian knew that war was going to break out and that same day the Russian mobilized their forces on all fronts in preparations, In doing so they accidentally crossed into the Austro-Hungarian border at Temes-Kubin.

 

On July 25th Austria-Hungary, having failed to accept Serbia's response of the 25th, declares war on Serbia. Mobilisation against Serbia begins there was a short cease-fire while the germans were trying to bring peace to the reason but it failed and Russia resumes their offenses against Austria-Hungry.

 

Before Germany declared war against Russia they gave them an ultimatum to Russia telling them to halt all military action within 12 hours if not Germany would declare war on Russia.

 

Several days later France Mobilized their forces for war and then on August 1st Germany offically declared war on Russia the Tsar said that he would have accepted the German peace deal if it had not been leaked that Germany had planned on declaring war against Russia if, Russia refused their ultimatum.

 

On August 3rd after getting word back from France and their refusal to remand neutral. Germany then declared war on France thus bringing France into the war.

 

Midnight on August 4th Great Britain Declared war on Germany after Having failed to receive notice from Germany assuring the neutrality of Belgium, Britain declares war on Germany.

 

Japan honoring their pact with the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, Japan declared war on Germany entered the war on August 23rd and then August 25th Japan declared war on Austria-Hungary.

 

The U.S "Officially" wanted to remain neutral in this conflict but President Wilson and Congress has already had sessions on the conflict and trying to entice Mexico to become Allies with the U.S and whether to join or not because despite the U.S not being a combatant the German U-Boats were sinking U.S Merchant Ships bearing the U.S Flag coming and going from the U.S and going from Great Britain to the U,S but it wasn't until a German U-Boat  sunk the Passenger Cruise Liner the RMS Lusitania is when the U.S officially entered against Germany & Austria-Hungry

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:45 AM

Can someone tell why WW I/ WW II started anyways?)

"On Sunday, 28 June 1914, at approximately 10:45 am, Franz Ferdinand and his wife were killed in Sarajevo, the capital of the Austro-Hungarian province of Bosnia and Herzegovina, by Gavrilo Princip, 19 at the time, a member of Young Bosnia and one of a group of [Serbian separatist] assassins organized by the Black Hand."

Putting it in an overly simple way:
The Great Patriotic War (WW2) German Expansionism, and Retaliation for The Great War terms of the Armistice.
Japanese trade restrictions.
In October 1935, Italy invaded Abyssinia, and the League of Nations failed in its attempt to stop it.
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 05:46 AM

LOL can you imagine if Americans were asked to conserve food now for the war effort?

 

The streets would be in riots

 

It's fascinating comparing the old days' propaganda to today's

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:06 AM

To all the brave men and women from all corners of the globe who sacrificed their lives for all us in WW1 and even every war since it makes me realise how much I take life for granted knowing the sacrifice our veterans have shed blood, sweat and tears.

 

None of us will ever be able to comprehend, but the least we can do is never forget.

 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:15 AM

On a somewhat related note, I learned something new about WWII today

 

http://mainichi.jp/e...0na014000c.html

 

Turns out Nagasaki wasn't the original target for the A-bomb? The sh*t they don't teach you in school....


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:16 AM

Sadly, we already have forgotten, and will continue to forget in the name of "World Peace". (And, oil.)
Would a modern nation go to war over the death of one person? Yep, I think so.
Nothing is learned, and the wheel of time turns...
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:19 AM

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Wow, apparently the last surviving WWI veteran died just two-and-a-half years ago. Her name was Florence Green and she served in the Women's Royal Air Force. She was 110.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:34 AM

On a somewhat related note, I learned something new about WWII today

 

http://mainichi.jp/e...0na014000c.html

 

Turns out Nagasaki wasn't the original target for the A-bomb? The sh*t they don't teach you in school....

Oh, stfu and stfu. Stop derailing this thread.

 

 

RIP to the fallen and those that paved the way for the newer generations and many to come. 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:42 AM

Sadly, we already have forgotten, and will continue to forget in the name of "World Peace". (And, oil.)
Would a modern nation go to war over the death of one person? Yep, I think so.
Nothing is learned, and the wheel of time turns...

Couldn't have put it better myself. When it comes to warfare, I'm not sure if man will ever learn.

 

 

 

Oh, stfu and stfu. Stop derailing this thread.

 

 

RIP to the fallen and those that paved the way for the newer generations and many to come. 

 

Sorry? Seemed pretty relevant to me but I guess I'll take my discussion somewhere else. Didn't mean any disrespect....


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:43 AM

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I'll just leave this here.  But I will keep you posted.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:47 AM

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:01 AM Edited by Der_Don, 29 July 2014 - 07:02 AM.

I find the various coloured footages of this war amazing. Makes it look as if it happened just short while ago.

 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:09 AM

Woah, that graphic way over-emphasises the importance aeroplanes and tanks had on the First World War.  In the early stages, only the Germans actually used aeroplanes for fighting, the Western allies only used them for reconnaissance.

 

But aeroplanes and tanks were hardly as important as in the Second World War.  Moreover, it would eventually be attrition that decided the war, along with Russia's surrender.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:31 AM

The graphic is intended for just quick facts and a brief explanation, it's not going to have every minute detail in there. Planes and tanks played a fairly large role in the war though. People mostly think about the trenches and not the other battles and actions taking place in the first war. Attrition usually decides any war.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:50 AM

The graphic is intended for just quick facts and a brief explanation, it's not going to have every minute detail in there. Planes and tanks played a fairly large role in the war though. People mostly think about the trenches and not the other battles and actions taking place in the first war. Attrition usually decides any war.

 

Not really:

 

It wasn't so much the war effort that decided the war, as it was the October Revolution.  Neither planes nor tanks were able to penetrate the completely locked entrenched war.  In the grand scheme, they were useless.  Even naval combat did not do much either; sure the U-boat campaigns eventually brought in the US, but their contributions mostly involved getting a lot of their countrymen killed, more than help winning the war.

 

There are also plenty of examples of wars won by something else than attrition:  Second Schleswig War of 1864, Austro-Prussian War of 1866 and so on.  I am sure there are more, but those are the ones I can think of at the moment.

 

Moreover, the Second World War wasn't won by attrition, it was won by completely defeating the Germans.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:02 AM Edited by lil weasel, 29 July 2014 - 08:29 AM.

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Frank Woodruff Buckles (born Wood Buckles, February 1, 1901 – February 27, 2011) was a United States Army soldier and the last surviving American veteran of The Great War.






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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:26 AM

 

The graphic is intended for just quick facts and a brief explanation, it's not going to have every minute detail in there. Planes and tanks played a fairly large role in the war though. People mostly think about the trenches and not the other battles and actions taking place in the first war. Attrition usually decides any war.

 

Not really:

 

It wasn't so much the war effort that decided the war, as it was the October Revolution.  Neither planes nor tanks were able to penetrate the completely locked entrenched war.  In the grand scheme, they were useless.  Even naval combat did not do much either; sure the U-boat campaigns eventually brought in the US, but their contributions mostly involved getting a lot of their countrymen killed, more than help winning the war.

 

There are also plenty of examples of wars won by something else than attrition:  Second Schleswig War of 1864, Austro-Prussian War of 1866 and so on.  I am sure there are more, but those are the ones I can think of at the moment.

 

Moreover, the Second World War wasn't won by attrition, it was won by completely defeating the Germans.

 

Yes, actually. Perhaps our definitions of attrition are being used differently. My definition is the process of weakening the enemy, eventually overcoming.

 

Also, I have to disagree about tanks being 'useless', they've played a very vital role during the first war.. on several occasions, they've penetrated the lines and pushed the Germans back gaining crucial miles. Patton is a prime example of how tanks had successful operations. They weren't useless.. this was the world's first experience with tanks on a large scale.. either way, they were successful and resulted in tank warfare growing even more rapidly in the wars to come.

 

Schleswig would be dictated by attrition I would think? Pressure led to the Treaty of Vienna.. that's attrition, or no? Perhaps I'm using attrition wrong.. but I would think I'm using it right. In any case, there seems there will always be a debate about the outcomes of war or advances of war, even when the real reasons slaps us across the face.

 

Anyways, where I stand is that attrition decides any war.. because in the end, attrition led to the victories of wars. Albeit, politically or through combat.. I don't know if that makes sense, it's 4:30am right now.. I'm a bit tired. Sounds right in my head though.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:27 AM

You're right and it's sad, Some would say WWI was even more brutal than WWII was and there were Big Events, [...]


Despite of the brutality of the trench warfare, the "possitive" side is that WWI didn't generally aim for the civilian population unlike the WWII did.

Shell shock, the face of the insanity of war.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:40 AM

It wasn't so much the war effort that decided the war, as it was the October Revolution.  Neither planes nor tanks were able to penetrate the completely locked entrenched war.  In the grand scheme, they were useless.  Even naval combat did not do much either; sure the U-boat campaigns eventually brought in the US, but their contributions mostly involved getting a lot of their countrymen killed, more than help winning the war.
 
There are also plenty of examples of wars won by something else than attrition:  Second Schleswig War of 1864, Austro-Prussian War of 1866 and so on.  I am sure there are more, but those are the ones I can think of at the moment.
 
Moreover, the Second World War wasn't won by attrition, it was won by completely defeating the Germans.

Yes, actually. Perhaps our definitions of attrition are being used differently. My definition is the process of weakening the enemy, eventually overcoming.


Since attrition warfare is a regarded specific kind of warfare, that should mean there are other forms (involving conventional weapons). Attrition just means having people die by other means than necessarily killing them (hunger, sickness, weather, etc.) by forcing them into conditions where they are unlikely to survive (like cutting their supply lines). Skirmishes are a classic example for attrition warfare. There are few decisive battles in attrition war than in regular war.

Moreover, while attrition isn't necessarily a new thing, most wars in the past (like say prior to the Napoleonic Wars) were mostly won by decisive battles, rather than waiting the enemy out.

Also, I have to disagree about tanks being 'useless', they've played a very vital role during the first war.. on several occasions, they've penetrated the lines and pushed the Germans back gaining crucial miles. Patton is a prime example of how tanks had successful operations. They weren't useless.. this was the world's first experience with tanks on a large scale.. either way, they were successful and resulted in tank warfare growing even more rapidly in the wars to come.


I am not saying they were useless as in pointless, I am merely referring to the war in general. They showed great potential during their operations in the war, and so did aeroplanes, but because of the prime format of the war (trenches), they never had the chance to really prove their worth. Also because generals and commanders on both sides regarded them with less significance than infantry and artillery.

The lessons of this war would be numerous, not least tanks and aeroplanes.
 

Schleswig would be dictated by attrition I would think? Pressure led to the Treaty of Vienna.. that's attrition, or no? Perhaps I'm using attrition wrong.. but I would think I'm using it right. In any case, there seems there will always be a debate about the outcomes of war or advances of war, even when the real reasons slaps us across the face.


Nah, the war in 1864 was primarily won through two decisive battles by the Prussians, that eventually forced the Danes to capitulate. It didn't help that the Danes were operating quite terribly, both militarily and politically. In a sense; we did everything wrong.
 

Anyways, where I stand is that attrition decides any war.. because in the end, attrition led to the victories of wars. Albeit, politically or through combat.. I don't know if that makes sense, it's 4:30am right now.. I'm a bit tired. Sounds right in my head though.


Except decisive battles are not attrition. Even the Franco-Prussian War was won by Prussian artillery bombing Paris. If the French had refused to surrender, then I am sure it would be been decided eventually by attrition. But you are faced with an overwhelming force and certain defeat, surely you surrender before you get anywhere near attrition, like Denmark in 1941.

The raison d'être for the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombing was primarily to avoid an attrition war with Japan, because Japan would likely be fighting to the last man.
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:19 PM

100 years ago mankind demonstrated once again why it's still an almost savage, poorly civilized and basically unintelligent species.

RIP to those who fought for this illogical and useless event.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:07 PM Edited by Failure, 29 July 2014 - 03:07 PM.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who gave their lives in service of their countries. In fact, I am humbled by them. 

 

 

Honour to the fallen. 

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