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Captain Hammer
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:50 AM

 

I have a solution you big bitch.

 

play invite only if you're gonna be a pussy

i think the pussy ass bitches are the ones running over people who dont want to fight at the moment because they know the other person cant kill them. Go find the other rampagers and have a shootout instead of spending 5 minutes running over someone who doesnt want to be f*cked with, wasting your time and theirs. Passive mode is for people who want to do a few things without the worry of someone gunning them down and blowing up their sh*t for no reason. its been too many times where i just wanted to upgrade my car and some asshole drives up to me and shoots me down, i go in passive mode, and they spend a full minute trying to shoot me or run me over, then goes to my car and blows it up. 

 

 

You may want that to be what Passive mode is for, but in reality its a way for people to protect themselves while they get in to position to grief another player.

 

Its too easy to switch in and out of. I know I was shot in the back by a pacifist. But no more, I'm well over 200 kills on Passives since then and I'll always go after every one in my Lobby until R* fixes it!

 

You can have ghost mode in passive but you should only be able to switch in and out of it in your apartment.

 

and "Invite Only" to mod your cars... LSC is always a war zone


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

They need to change how passive mode to allow you to use weapons, but not on other players and other players cant hit you. They should also do that no contact thing they got for races in the passive mode. im sick of going into passive mode cus i dont want any trouble and just wanna mod my car or do the export missions and someone just shooting me in my car or ramming the car in trying to export. also the fact that people can run you over is bullsh*t and the water from fire trucks can kill u in passive mode. 

Ever heard of selecting "Kill Yourself" from the Interaction Menu?
Or using a telephone pole or a tree to prevent someone from running you over?
Use your imagination, people. A simple telephone pole keeps me from getting run over while in Passive Mode.

I know you can do it, too.


You may want that to be what Passive mode is for, but in reality its a way for people to protect themselves while they get in to position to grief another player.

Its too easy to switch in and out of. 

I agree with this man. If anything, they need to nerf Passive Mode.

I'm one of those Passive Mode griefers.

I run away in Passive Mode and then come back to kill players and then slip back into Passive Mode, run away, and come back again.

Do you really want to give players like me even more advantages?


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#33

Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:01 AM

I say change Passive mode so when you don't want any trouble go and press "Passive Mode" which will promptly shut down your console

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:11 AM Edited by TreFacTor, 24 July 2014 - 10:12 AM.

I say change Passive mode so when you don't want any trouble go and press "Passive Mode" which will promptly shut down your console

that's too drastic how about automatically disabling the online functionality on anyone who makes another stupid useless bitch and moan thread regarding passive mode...or better yet stick the whiners in an open lobby by themselves...no npcs...no cops...no other traffic...that should give em all the time in the world to be left alone.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:07 AM


They need to change how passive mode to allow you to use weapons, but not on other players and other players cant hit you. They should also do that no contact thing they got for races in the passive mode. im sick of going into passive mode cus i dont want any trouble and just wanna mod my car or do the export missions and someone just shooting me in my car or ramming the car in trying to export. also the fact that people can run you over is bullsh*t and the water from fire trucks can kill u in passive mode. 

So if your not going to use the guns then why do you need them in Passive mode?
 
Even if they do fix Passive Mode so you can't be run over or killed with the fire hose you will still be able to be killed and blown up in your car otherwise that'll allow you to troll.
 
Think about it, If you are in Passive in your car and you see someone who isn't passive then you'll be able to run them over but they won't be able to shoot you to stop you from doing so that wouldn't be fair now would it?
 
I agree they need to fit passive mode but not to the extent that you want it.
 
Also you can still fight back against NPC while in passive mode you can punch them back if they punch you first.

I have a solution you big bitch.
 
play invite only if you're gonna be a pussy

People like you really irk me.
 
You never stop and think before you post that stupid comment which has been repeated thousands upon thousands of times on here, You always forget that people play with friends Online and those friends might not be passive players and they want to play in public sessions and if you have several friends in a session together then that means they all have to go to a invite only session where it's just them and that will be boring for his friends also this isn't COD you don't have to shoot everybody on site some people want to have fun without getting into a PvP every 5 minutes with some random doink who doesn't know when to leave well enough alone.

But when you're in passive mode people could still run you over. Really not fair if you ask me, maybe they should just add the no contact feature so people can't ram you in passive mode, and vice versa if somebody in passive mode is. And for the fire hose, do what they did for trying to shoot at a person in passive mode, it doesn't let you fire. Lol

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:37 AM

The a-holes wouldn't be able to take advantage of it if R* made it so that once you kill a player in the session passive mode is disabled until you go to a new session. Then all you little vaginas that hop in and out of passive mode will just stay in an invite-only lobby due to knowing you will actually have use skill to survive. 

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:51 AM

Then all you little vaginas that hop in and out of passive mode will just stay in an invite-only lobby due to knowing you will actually have use skill to survive. 

Are you mad, Sneakerfeen11?
Are you?
It's okay to be mad.
 


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:54 AM

 

Then all you little vaginas that hop in and out of passive mode will just stay in an invite-only lobby due to knowing you will actually have use skill to survive. 

Are you mad, Sneakerfeen11?
Are you?
It's okay to be mad.
 

I have no reason to be and that are you mad stuff was played out like 6 years ago. Get new material, child.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:58 AM Edited by djv3n0m, 24 July 2014 - 12:02 PM.


 


But when you're in passive mode people could still run you over. Really not fair if you ask me, maybe they should just add the no contact feature so people can't ram you in passive mode, and vice versa if somebody in passive mode is. And for the fire hose, do what they did for trying to shoot at a person in passive mode, it doesn't let you fire. Lol

 

 

 

Nah its called passive mode not god mode , people should be able to run you over plenty of ways to not die in passive mod like....

 

1.Not standing still like a duck expecting it to save you

2.Using your map (Mental states, warzones,the guy you just killed)

3.Dont start sh!t , ramming me in your chrome zentorno  screaming YOLO on the mic (Youre just looking for trouble)

4.The rest is called learning curve


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:58 AM

I invented "U mad" because I'm like 30 years old.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:17 PM Edited by OurJud, 24 July 2014 - 12:17 PM.

No.


Your sig GIF is mental!! What the f*ck's he doing? :D

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:34 PM

Passive mode could do with a bit of tweeking.

 

That being said it doesn't matter to me, I only use it when I go afk


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:56 PM

Ugh why do you people persist in attempting to make more threads about how Passive Mode should be Ghost Mode? I give you points because you added something new but
I'll give the example I gave in the last 300 threads
I just took out my tank and spawnraped the whole lobby. They finally destroy it and I can just turn on Ghost Mode and do the jerk animation while they can't do anything but watch. Does this sound like it will be good for GTA Online?

I hear this argument ALL THE TIME, yet this has NEVER happened to me. Every tank/jet user has ALWAYS stayed to fight after I/others blew up their tank/jet. They didn't go into Passive while they acquired another one, so either all of you passive-haters are bullsh*ters, or you have the bad luck of running into the worst players in the game, over and over.

 

Besides, just make it so you CAN'T USE PASSIVE MODE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME-FRAME OF KILLING SOMEONE. Abuse-problem solved.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:41 PM Edited by gpcguy1, 24 July 2014 - 05:43 PM.


What i mean by being able to use weapons is that your weapons do do damage to other players, but you can still fight npcs. its mainly this one time i accidentally triggered a gang war and went to get out of passive mode, but was killed before it wore off. 

Yeah that is a massive problem.
 
You can be killed by Police & Gang War but you can't fight back i do agree they need to fix that.
 
They also need to fix that countdown clock to when you aren't passive anymore they either need to get rid of it or fix it so nobody can kill you until the clock strikes zero other wise other players can kill you but you can't defend yourself because of the countdown
The countdowns there to make sure you don't instantly pop out of passive and shoot. Players should be able to kill you since you are trying to get a cheap kill.

@above
It actually happens quite alot don't dismiss it just because you haven't experience it.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:52 PM

So go in "Invite only Session"

 

You basically sound like you don't want any contact with other players.  And if you do want contact, i'm guessing it's only because you want to show off your cool looking car? lol

 

What's your reason for not doing "Invite only session"?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:42 PM

So go in "Invite only Session"

 

You basically sound like you don't want any contact with other players.  And if you do want contact, i'm guessing it's only because you want to show off your cool looking car? lol

 

What's your reason for not doing "Invite only session"?

I don't know about OP, but I gave up on Passive Mode a long time ago. I play in Closed Friend Sessions, mostly because my internet can't handle public lobbies too well, but also because I can't get anything done in Freeroam if there are other players around. There's always a jet flying around, or a pair of asshats shooting everyone in sight.

 

However, I WOULD like passive mode to work like co-op does in missions. The only way to kill another player is to run them over. Do I want this because I'm "a pussy" or "a bitch", as some of our eloquent members put it? No. It's because I want some f*cking TEAMWORK for once in this game, instead of mindless chaos, without having to make a special session for it and invite everyone to it.

 

Opponents of this idea throw out the usual half-assed arguments, "GTA IS ABUT MOORDER AND CHAOS, GO BACK TO MA LITTLE PONY IF YOU DUN LIKE, HURR DURR DURR", and "INVITE-ONLY, LOL". It's just as bad as the people that say we shouldn't have to buy cars because "DA GAME IS CALLED GRAND THEFT AUTO, LOLOLOL". Argue against me all you like, I only ask you be SMART about it when you do it.

 

Having said that, I was promised TEAMWORK with GTAO. I don't remember one single instance in the GTAO trailer where players killing players was featured as something you could/should do. It wasn't about chaos, it was about players finding ways to work together, which passive-opponents seem to conveniently forget. But we can't HAVE teamwork like that because they gave us the option to kill each other, so of course, that's what everyone does. Mostly because the entire game has de-volved into a "kill first just in case" mentality.

 

I want a better passive mode, NOT because I want players to leave me alone, but because I want to WORK TOGETHER with other players, and not have the inconvenience of making a whole lobby JUST for that, and inviting every single person one by one, just so we can all be separated again as soon as the game glitches out after a mission. Not to mention my friends list is cluttered enough as it is. 

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:03 PM Edited by izekial27, 24 July 2014 - 07:05 PM.

You can't really stop passive mode players from running people over in cars, because even if they ghosted through you, the collateral damage from them shunting other vehicles or things in to you can't/shouldn't be ghosted.
The best approach is to incentivise against it by auto disabling passive mode on a player that has just killed another player. Rockstar should disable passive mode for the next 5 minutes for that player, even if they change lobbies.
If the player then does this again within the same session, then passive mode is disabled for the next 30 mins.
This penalty could be increased each time the player does a hit and run.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:39 PM Edited by TreFacTor, 24 July 2014 - 07:43 PM.

So go in "Invite only Session"
 
You basically sound like you don't want any contact with other players.  And if you do want contact, i'm guessing it's only because you want to show off your cool looking car? lol
 
What's your reason for not doing "Invite only session"?

I don't know about OP, but I gave up on Passive Mode a long time ago. I play in Closed Friend Sessions, mostly because my internet can't handle public lobbies too well, but also because I can't get anything done in Freeroam if there are other players around. There's always a jet flying around, or a pair of asshats shooting everyone in sight.
 
However, I WOULD like passive mode to work like co-op does in missions. The only way to kill another player is to run them over. Do I want this because I'm "a pussy" or "a bitch", as some of our eloquent members put it? No. It's because I want some f*cking TEAMWORK for once in this game, instead of mindless chaos, without having to make a special session for it and invite everyone to it.
 
Opponents of this idea throw out the usual half-assed arguments, "GTA IS ABUT MOORDER AND CHAOS, GO BACK TO MA LITTLE PONY IF YOU DUN LIKE, HURR DURR DURR", and "INVITE-ONLY, LOL". It's just as bad as the people that say we shouldn't have to buy cars because "DA GAME IS CALLED GRAND THEFT AUTO, LOLOLOL". Argue against me all you like, I only ask you be SMART about it when you do it.
 
Having said that, I was promised TEAMWORK with GTAO. I don't remember one single instance in the GTAO trailer where players killing players was featured as something you could/should do. It wasn't about chaos, it was about players finding ways to work together, which passive-opponents seem to conveniently forget. But we can't HAVE teamwork like that because they gave us the option to kill each other, so of course, that's what everyone does. Mostly because the entire game has de-volved into a "kill first just in case" mentality.
 
I want a better passive mode, NOT because I want players to leave me alone, but because I want to WORK TOGETHER with other players, and not have the inconvenience of making a whole lobby JUST for that, and inviting every single person one by one, just so we can all be separated again as soon as the game glitches out after a mission. Not to mention my friends list is cluttered enough as it is.
1- passive mode in free roam works the same in free roam as it does in missions: you can still be run over and blown up.

2- you want to get things done without the interference from others but want strangers to play nice in a random lobby even though multiple options are available to you to do so unimpeded which take no longer than it takes to get into a random session. Quite simply you want to be alone in a public room and that logic doesn't fit in real life or gta. You cant expect everyone to play by your passive patty cake rules.

3- your expectation and limited understanding of the gtao trailer can't be used to support the none combatal environment passive players want. Every game world has rules and the better you are at understanding them the better you become at navigating said world. Los Santos and everything in it is designed in and around criminal activity and its painfully obvious by the cries in this thread that none of you have even so much as stolen a piece of gum or you would fully understand that there is no honor among thieves...suvival of the fittest and all that jazz.

4- BECAUSE people may have had gum drop and lollie pop impressions of a utopia in Los Santos, Rockstar went out of their way to inform ANYONE who bothered to pay attention during the tut, that everyone isn't your friend in gtao...did you miss that part or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? You are told repeatedly to bank your cash because other players can kill you and take it...this is 10 minutes into the tutorial when you're sent to rob your first store.

I say all of that to say this, you can get a full room of co op...you just have to get 16 like minded people together...that's never going to happen on a public server where not everyone communicates or has the same itinerary. You have options at your disposal....you and others clammoring for this pillowtop version of gta simply choose not to use those options and want everyone to play by your rules....no world works that way.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:52 PM Edited by SteveNYC81, 24 July 2014 - 07:53 PM.

They've should've set it up in a sense where lets say you killed 5 times without getting a kill, then you would have the option to go into passive mode. But there should also be a time limit as to how long you can stay in passive mode. Also a 20 minute cool down before you can use it again. It's comes in handy if your job hopping around the map so you don't get killed exiting out, if that's not the job you were looking for, and land in the middle of a war. But it gets abused wayy to much in combat scenarios, between that and Lesters reveal in DM, are my 2 top dislikes.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:31 PM

Passive mode, working as intended.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:35 PM

Ugh why do you people persist in attempting to make more threads about how Passive Mode should be Ghost Mode? I give you points because you added something new but
I'll give the example I gave in the last 300 threads
I just took out my tank and spawnraped the whole lobby. They finally destroy it and I can just turn on Ghost Mode and do the jerk animation while they can't do anything but watch. Does this sound like it will be good for GTA Online?

If you don't know how to avoid a tank, You deserved to be killed tbh.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:42 PM

The a-holes wouldn't be able to take advantage of it if R* made it so that once you kill a player in the session passive mode is disabled until you go to a new session. Then all you little vaginas that hop in and out of passive mode will just stay in an invite-only lobby due to knowing you will actually have use skill to survive. 

That actually happens, The timer counts down and you're out of passive mode until a minute gies by.

 

If you can't kill someone in that time, You might need some skill and stop chasing players who cant defend themselves. 


 

 

I have a solution you big bitch.

 

play invite only if you're gonna be a pussy

i think the pussy ass bitches are the ones running over people who dont want to fight at the moment because they know the other person cant kill them. Go find the other rampagers and have a shootout instead of spending 5 minutes running over someone who doesnt want to be f*cked with, wasting your time and theirs. Passive mode is for people who want to do a few things without the worry of someone gunning them down and blowing up their sh*t for no reason. its been too many times where i just wanted to upgrade my car and some asshole drives up to me and shoots me down, i go in passive mode, and they spend a full minute trying to shoot me or run me over, then goes to my car and blows it up. 

 

 

You may want that to be what Passive mode is for, but in reality its a way for people to protect themselves while they get in to position to grief another player.

 

Its too easy to switch in and out of. I know I was shot in the back by a pacifist. But no more, I'm well over 200 kills on Passives since then and I'll always go after every one in my Lobby until R* fixes it!

 

You can have ghost mode in passive but you should only be able to switch in and out of it in your apartment.

 

and "Invite Only" to mod your cars... LSC is always a war zone

 

If you can't kill someone in 10 seconds who can't use weapons, You know you need help.


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#53

Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:46 PM

no dont change it cause I like to see the idiot ways people still try to kill you

 

some of those thick headed people just never learn


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:48 PM

Yes, let's change it. Let's do away with it entirely. This is GTA. If you don't like interacting with people or worrying about their bullsh*t, public lobbies are not for you in the first place. We have Invite Only/Closed Crew and Friend Sessions for a reason.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:55 PM

Why mod your cars in a public lobby? You mentioned the export missions which are designed for one player to beat out other players trying to deliver the car. Sometimes I wonder about some on here...

 

Some people complain about getting killed trying to do stuff, but that stuff is usually things you should be doing in an invite-only to begin with. Like the guy the other day crying about a-holes because he just wants to drive his cars around and be left alone. lol 

i said this before, i dont mean the high priority exports, but the ones sent through the texts from simeon. The reason i started this was when i was trying to start a mission, someone was chasing me and shooting me so i went into passive mode and ran into a store, so they blew up my car. Im not one of those people that kills you and goes into passive mode like a bitch. I just hate when im doing something else in real life while im on call in passive mode waiting for a mission and some jackass keeps trying to run me over for no reason. I just hate those with the "I gotta kill everyone for no reason" mentality. 


Yes, let's change it. Let's do away with it entirely. This is GTA. If you don't like interacting with people or worrying about their bullsh*t, public lobbies are not for you in the first place. We have Invite Only/Closed Crew and Friend Sessions for a reason.

and those are useless if youre a solo player who doesnt play with others on a regular basis. If someone doesnt want to have a shootout with you, there are others you can play with. Sometimes people dont want to rampage, but are trying to get money and youre just  f*cking them up for no reason. I think the real pussies are those who obsess with killing the passive players by chasing them down because they know theres no way they can fight back. 


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

No it's fine how it is. Several times I've been targeted by another player, only to hand their ass to them. Then guess what they do, they go passive. If I leave them alone they either go get a tank, or they follow me until I'm not paying attention come out of passive and shoot me in the back. For those saying to get rid of the timer, no one here's that dumb. You're gonna use that sh*t to troll and boost your k/d. There's a reason they made invite only sessions and there's a reason they made passive mode. No one is keeping you from switching sessions. Stop being whiny little bitches about getting killed in passive. Chances are you deserved it anyway, because in my experience 90% of people use passive mode as a strategy for sneaky kills. Not to be "passive".

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

You can't really stop passive mode players from running people over in cars, because even if they ghosted through you, the collateral damage from them shunting other vehicles or things in to you can't/shouldn't be ghosted.
The best approach is to incentivise against it by auto disabling passive mode on a player that has just killed another player. Rockstar should disable passive mode for the next 5 minutes for that player, even if they change lobbies.
If the player then does this again within the same session, then passive mode is disabled for the next 30 mins.
This penalty could be increased each time the player does a hit and run.

you can be shot and shoot when your in a car as passive. I was saying that passive mode should be a ghost mode where you cant hit other players and other players cant hit you, but you still have use for your guns. That way, there is no way a player can get hit in passive mode and no way they can hit another player while passive. all damage that a passive player does like explosions does no damage to other players or player owned vehicles. it mainly because there are assholes who think the game is nothing but blowing up other players and destroying their cars.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:13 PM Edited by Skylan, 24 July 2014 - 09:14 PM.

@TreFacTor -

1. It does not work the same. In missions, running a player over is the ONLY way to kill another player, and any other way (such as tank-ramming) is so inconvenient, it might as well not count. In Freeroam, passive doesn't protect you against anything while in a car. You could say that if it DID, people would use Passive to grief by running players over, knowing they can't kill/explode you in return, just like mission griefers. In that case, getting away is as simple as GETTING INSIDE A CAR. Which is infinitely easier and more convenient than a Passive player getting away from a dedicated griefer as the Mode stands now. You're in a car 90% of the time, anyway.

Furthermore, you seem to be one of those players that will oppose anything even REMOTELY resembling Passive Mode, not because of any inconvenience it poses to you or unfair advantage it gives anyone else, but simply because you can't stand the idea of anyone doing anything that DOESN'T involve mindless killing. Therefore, this is my one and only reply to you because I am not seeking a never-ending argument where everything I say is refuted in a single sentence that doesn't even have proper spelling and grammar. Good day to you, sir.


You can't really stop passive mode players from running people over in cars, because even if they ghosted through you, the collateral damage from them shunting other vehicles or things in to you can't/shouldn't be ghosted.
The best approach is to incentivise against it by auto disabling passive mode on a player that has just killed another player. Rockstar should disable passive mode for the next 5 minutes for that player, even if they change lobbies.
If the player then does this again within the same session, then passive mode is disabled for the next 30 mins.
This penalty could be increased each time the player does a hit and run.

you can be shot and shoot when your in a car as passive. I was saying that passive mode should be a ghost mode where you cant hit other players and other players cant hit you, but you still have use for your guns. That way, there is no way a player can get hit in passive mode and no way they can hit another player while passive. all damage that a passive player does like explosions does no damage to other players or player owned vehicles. it mainly because there are assholes who think the game is nothing but blowing up other players and destroying their cars.
This is such an obvious idea, Rockstar's lack of its implementation is probably a hint that they already thought of it and DON'T want to implement it. Don't get me wrong, I support the idea of a better Passive Mode, but I'm thinking Rockstar doesn't want that. Which begs the question, why did they implement it at all? They should either make it better, or REMOVE it altogether.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:15 PM

You can't really stop passive mode players from running people over in cars, because even if they ghosted through you, the collateral damage from them shunting other vehicles or things in to you can't/shouldn't be ghosted.
The best approach is to incentivise against it by auto disabling passive mode on a player that has just killed another player. Rockstar should disable passive mode for the next 5 minutes for that player, even if they change lobbies.
If the player then does this again within the same session, then passive mode is disabled for the next 30 mins.
This penalty could be increased each time the player does a hit and run.

you can be shot and shoot when your in a car as passive. I was saying that passive mode should be a ghost mode where you cant hit other players and other players cant hit you, but you still have use for your guns. That way, there is no way a player can get hit in passive mode and no way they can hit another player while passive. all damage that a passive player does like explosions does no damage to other players or player owned vehicles. it mainly because there are assholes who think the game is nothing but blowing up other players and destroying their cars.

 

 

 

So go in "Invite only Session"
 
You basically sound like you don't want any contact with other players.  And if you do want contact, i'm guessing it's only because you want to show off your cool looking car? lol
 
What's your reason for not doing "Invite only session"?

I don't know about OP, but I gave up on Passive Mode a long time ago. I play in Closed Friend Sessions, mostly because my internet can't handle public lobbies too well, but also because I can't get anything done in Freeroam if there are other players around. There's always a jet flying around, or a pair of asshats shooting everyone in sight.
 
However, I WOULD like passive mode to work like co-op does in missions. The only way to kill another player is to run them over. Do I want this because I'm "a pussy" or "a bitch", as some of our eloquent members put it? No. It's because I want some f*cking TEAMWORK for once in this game, instead of mindless chaos, without having to make a special session for it and invite everyone to it.
 
Opponents of this idea throw out the usual half-assed arguments, "GTA IS ABUT MOORDER AND CHAOS, GO BACK TO MA LITTLE PONY IF YOU DUN LIKE, HURR DURR DURR", and "INVITE-ONLY, LOL". It's just as bad as the people that say we shouldn't have to buy cars because "DA GAME IS CALLED GRAND THEFT AUTO, LOLOLOL". Argue against me all you like, I only ask you be SMART about it when you do it.
 
Having said that, I was promised TEAMWORK with GTAO. I don't remember one single instance in the GTAO trailer where players killing players was featured as something you could/should do. It wasn't about chaos, it was about players finding ways to work together, which passive-opponents seem to conveniently forget. But we can't HAVE teamwork like that because they gave us the option to kill each other, so of course, that's what everyone does. Mostly because the entire game has de-volved into a "kill first just in case" mentality.
 
I want a better passive mode, NOT because I want players to leave me alone, but because I want to WORK TOGETHER with other players, and not have the inconvenience of making a whole lobby JUST for that, and inviting every single person one by one, just so we can all be separated again as soon as the game glitches out after a mission. Not to mention my friends list is cluttered enough as it is.
1- passive mode in free roam works the same in free roam as it does in missions: you can still be run over and blown up.

2- you want to get things done without the interference from others but want strangers to play nice in a random lobby even though multiple options are available to you to do so unimpeded which take no longer than it takes to get into a random session. Quite simply you want to be alone in a public room and that logic doesn't fit in real life or gta. You cant expect everyone to play by your passive patty cake rules.

3- your expectation and limited understanding of the gtao trailer can't be used to support the none combatal environment passive players want. Every game world has rules and the better you are at understanding them the better you become at navigating said world. Los Santos and everything in it is designed in and around criminal activity and its painfully obvious by the cries in this thread that none of you have even so much as stolen a piece of gum or you would fully understand that there is no honor among thieves...suvival of the fittest and all that jazz.

4- BECAUSE people may have had gum drop and lollie pop impressions of a utopia in Los Santos, Rockstar went out of their way to inform ANYONE who bothered to pay attention during the tut, that everyone isn't your friend in gtao...did you miss that part or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? You are told repeatedly to bank your cash because other players can kill you and take it...this is 10 minutes into the tutorial when you're sent to rob your first store.

I say all of that to say this, you can get a full room of co op...you just have to get 16 like minded people together...that's never going to happen on a public server where not everyone communicates or has the same itinerary. You have options at your disposal....you and others clammoring for this pillowtop version of gta simply choose not to use those options and want everyone to play by your rules....no world works that way.

 

i dont want a no player kill world. I like the fact you can kill others and others can kill you. i can take being killed. Its just the assholes who feel like they need to kill you because youre in passive mode. I go in passive mode when someone kills me while im trying to get to my car. i try waiting for them to leave but they just keep shooting at me, throwing explosives at me, and start trying to run me over. I just wanna get to my car and give it the mod ive been saving up for and theyre wasting my time trying to kill me for no reason. and i dont feel like i have to go to a whole other lobby for that because sometimes i like to kill others randomly. if someone is passive, i leave them alone. It seems others cant take that hint. 


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:25 PM Edited by JayDM420, 24 July 2014 - 10:26 PM.

 

 

I say all of that to say this, you can get a full room of co op...you just have to get 16 like minded people together...that's never going to happen on a public server where not everyone communicates or has the same itinerary. You have options at your disposal....you and others clammoring for this pillowtop version of gta simply choose not to use those options and want everyone to play by your rules....no world works that way.

 

Lol just laughed out loud.

 

This guy is sooo retarded :lol:

 

Yes, passive mode is a bitter sweet feature. Mostly used by other players as a tool to grief people. R* won't ever acknowledge that they f*cked up this lobby system. Friendly fire lobby options for custom free-roam matches to join would have been a much better system. Gta IV still to this day has active servers with this type of lobby system. As well as RDR. 

 

But it won't ever happen. And only more and more threads of complaints will flood in weekly. :yawn:





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