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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:00 AM

Svip, you're along the right lines but a bit backwards.

The highest IP address in a 10.0.0.0/24 subnet would be 10.0.0.255 (broadcast, 254 host). A /16 subnet would be 10.0.255.255 and an /8 subnet would be 10.255.255.255.

 

Ah gee, I knew it sounded wrong to list which bits you want to ignore, rather than list which bits should remain significant.  Maybe I should have trusted my instinct, rather than insisting I was right when I was wrong.


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#32

Posted 23 July 2014 - 06:48 PM

Temp ban the ones who reply.

If they reply with something along the lines of "You should be banned", while stupid, but well-intentioned, give them a shorter temp.

If they reply with something like "lmao" or "this is hilarious!" give them a longer temp.


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#33

Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:06 PM Edited by Andreas, 23 July 2014 - 07:10 PM.

I think a temp-ban is a little too severe, depending on the situation. If it's a first time offence and the member has a clean record, then a simple reminder will most likely do it. There are members that are willing to learn from their mistakes. If they do it again by making a stupid reply to a spam topic, then a verbal warning would be suitable, in my view. If someone isn't willing to change, and they feel the need to constantly reply to spam topics, then the higher ups could start to dish out temp-bans. That would be probably the most effective way to deal with things.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:34 PM Edited by Lee Everett, 23 July 2014 - 07:37 PM.

What if there were something added such as new members having to gain 25-100 posts before being able to post images or links. 

 

I think a temp-ban is a little too severe, depending on the situation. If it's a first time offence and the member has a clean record, then a simple reminder will most likely do it. There are members that are willing to learn from their mistakes. If they do it again by making a stupid reply to a spam topic, then a verbal warning would be suitable, in my view. If someone isn't willing to change, and they feel the need to constantly reply to spam topics, then the higher ups could start to dish out temp-bans. That would be probably the most effective way to deal with things.

 
I don't think its severe at all to be honest. They are feeding the discussion by replying.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:49 AM

As I said before, new members should only be able to do a thread after 100 posts


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:37 AM

what about if members who have a history of troll posts just get banned?


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#37

Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:36 AM

What about adding a few led-by's to clean up the area during night? There's a ton of respectful members that come on during these late hours, when most trolling occurs.

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#38

Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:49 AM

What about adding a few led-by's to clean up the area during night? There's a ton of respectful members that come on during these late hours, when most trolling occurs.

You don't need to be respectful, you need to be helpful. If they are respected, but not really helpful, they don't really deserve to be promoted. 

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:09 AM

It isn't very easy to crack down on this. New members might be legitimate and may also have good points to contribute as either a thread or a post. You never know when a troll could easily make a new account, regardless if they're using Tor or not.

 

The probable solution would be this:

 

1. Allow images to be posted after X amount of posts

 

2. Allow thread making after X amount of posts and/or likes and posts.

 

3. Implement a reminder system, similar to what Andreas posted earlier. An automated message that comes in along with the verification email, reminding you that certain features will be disabled until the user is given the "thumbs up" and is allowed to post freely, images and topic speaking.

 

The only problem is, there would still be trolls boosting their reputation up to earn those features and to completely spam out troll threads and images.

 

While not a logical option, those mentioned above could temporarily solve the troll issue.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 10:43 AM

1. Allow images to be posted after X amount of posts


If someone has a legitimate problem and has to post a picture of what they mean then this will cripple them.

2. Allow thread making after X amount of posts and/or likes and posts.


If someone joins here to get support, they shouldn't be forced to get that amount of posts just to get answer on their problem.  This will encourage spam from what I've seen to get that amount faster. (On a forum we used to have this)

3. Implement a reminder system, similar to what Andreas posted earlier. An automated message that comes in along with the verification email, reminding you that certain features will be disabled until the user is given the "thumbs up" and is allowed to post freely, images and topic speaking.


Not everyone checks further than just the link in their email. Most are like "Click link, and done" without even reading.


The way I think this could be solved is if the first post is moderated for new members in high traffic sections, so it has to be approved first before it goes live. This is only their first post so if it's spam, it won't go through. If it's a genuine problem, it will be approved without a problem.
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:54 PM


 


 

In my opinion, the problem is that most mods are within a specific time zone, which makes it harder to moderate during the time most trolls/spam posters are active. Shouldn't there be mods active during different time zones?

There are plenty of mods that have different timezones than others, but they may not be able to visit the forum. :)
 
True, but having more mods over different time zones would maybe help dealing with the trolls/spammers.
 
Just my opinion.
 
 
And they do, someone just needs to be moderator material to begin with before they can promote them.  When I became moderator back in 2007 (I believe), it was partly because they needed more moderators in CET.  Unfortunately, there are timezones where GTAForums have far fewer members than other places.  Members are not evenly spread out.

And what is it that makes someone "moderator material"?

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#42

Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:24 PM

Excuse me for going off-topic for a second, but I have a question. Why have the trolls been so bad lately? It's almost been a year since GTA V's release, shouldn't it have died down by now?

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 04:12 PM

Excuse me for going off-topic for a second, but I have a question. Why have the trolls been so bad lately? It's almost been a year since GTA V's release, shouldn't it have died down by now?


Next gen release, probably

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 05:49 AM

once youve been on the internet for about 10 minutes you learn to quickly spot these troll posts and if you dont wish to see them, dont click them. its quite obvious when they have 3 posts on the main page and their join date was 2 minutes ago, lol


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#45

Posted 08 September 2014 - 05:52 AM

In order to report the topics, you kinda have to click them, but I see what you're getting at.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 06:27 AM

Excuse me for going off-topic for a second, but I have a question. Why have the trolls been so bad lately? It's almost been a year since GTA V's release, shouldn't it have died down by now?

It never dies down, especially when there's such a receptive audience.


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#47

Posted 08 September 2014 - 06:31 AM

it usually gets worse around 3:30 when they get home from kindergarten.





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