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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:20 PM Edited by universetwisters, 12 July 2014 - 05:20 PM.

(CNN) -- U.S. fighter jets intercepted Russian bombers off Alaska and California this month, the latest incidents in a string of recent aerial encounters over the Pacific.
On June 4, according to U.S. defense officials, four long-range Russian Tu-95 Bear-H bombers, accompanied by an aerial refueling tanker, flew into the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone, an area extending 200 miles from the North American coast, off Alaska, where they were intercepted by U.S. F-22 fighter jets.
Two of the Russian bombers peeled off and headed west, while the other two flew south and were identified by U.S. F-15 fighters within 50 miles of the California coast.
Capt. Jeff Davis, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said it was the first time U.S. jets had intercepted Russian military aircraft off California since July 4, 2012.
Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said it is believed the Russian planes were on a training mission.
 
Davis said the Russian planes were entirely within their rights during the flight.
"They followed all the protocols, and it was a very professional encounter on both sides," he said. "There was nothing that they were doing that was contrary to international law."
The Russian planes never entered U.S. territory proper, which by international law extends 13.8 miles (22.2 kilometers) from the U.S. coast.
According to the Federal Aviation Administration, any aircraft entering the Air Defense Identification Zone, which extends 200 miles from the coasts of the United States and Canada, must file a flight plan indicating their intentions, must maintain radio contact with air controllers and must have an operational radar transponder.
Davis said Russian flights into the air defense zone are intercepted about 10 times a year.
But earlier this year, a top U.S. Air Force general said Russia was stepping up its military activities in the Asia-Pacific region as tensions increased over the Ukraine and Russia's move into Crimea.
Gen. Herbert "Hawk" Carlisle, in a presentation to the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, talked up the increased Russian activity.
"They've come with their long-range aviation off the coast of California; they circumnavigated Guam," Carlisle said, showing a picture of a U.S. F-15 fighter "intercepting" a Russian bomber off the Pacific island.
Guam is home to Andersen Air Force Base, which has been used by the U.S. military for flights of B-2 and B-52 bombers across the Pacific.
Flights around Japan and the Korean Peninsula have also "increased drastically," as has naval activity in that area, Carlisle said.
The confrontations aren't just near U.S. airspace. In April, a U.S. Air Force surveillance plane was buzzed by a Russian jet fighter while flying over the Sea of Okhotsk between Russia and Japan, U.S. military officials said.
Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said.
Also in April, U.S. defense officials say, a Russian fighter jet made a dozen low-altitude passes over the USS Donald Cook, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer that was operating in the Black Sea.
On April 28, a Russian Defense Ministry statement said Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu and U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel had discussed both incidents during a phone call that day.
In response, the statement said, Shoygu "offered to instruct the commanders in chief of the armed forces of both countries to discuss possible additional measures to address the interests of both countries to prevent future misperceptions of actions."
On the other side of the world, F-16 fighter jets from theNetherlands intercepted two Russian bombers in April. The Russian planes, which had come about a half-mile into Dutch airspace, were escorted out and then monitored by British planes as they flew north of Scotland.
In a high-profile training mission of its own, the U.S. Air Force this week sent two of its top-of-the-line B-2 stealth bombers to an air base in Britain to conduct training operations. Three B-52 bombers were also sent from the U.S. on a two-week deployment to England, also for training purposes, according to an Air Force news release.

 
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I first heard the story while going through random news videos on NMA News right here and I thought "No way this could be true" but then I looked it up and I was like "holy crap". Then I read on and saw the part about this happening before, about ten times a year. What do you guys think on this?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:25 PM

Ruskies? Off my best coast?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:42 PM Edited by kipakolonyasi, 12 July 2014 - 05:42 PM.

childish/pathethic show off between countries i guess. Turkish and Greek jets do this to each other all the time. (what a shame we're in such a lower league... :whuh:)

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:49 PM Edited by 860, 12 July 2014 - 05:50 PM.

I'm from Finland. This is really common. Only a minor mention in the news, if any. It's not just Russia, it's everyone. We get airspace violations from Sweden too and we do it to them. And they do it to Norway and vice versa.

It's an Air Force orgy.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:03 PM

They flew over Scotland a few months ago and nothing came of it, doubt this is any different.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:06 PM

War's coming home.

 

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:11 PM

^ I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:16 PM

They did the same to Scotland and the R.A.F sent two typhoons to intercept them. I think the Russian aircraft were Tupolevs TU-95.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

So in a nutshell.

 

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

looks like just another training mission.

doesn't really mean anything outside the context of everyone being hyper-paranoid since Russia went into Crimea.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:05 PM

"Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said."

 

Are we supposed to be scared?


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

"Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said."

 

Are we supposed to be scared?

 

Maybe. I don't live anywhere near California though, but I'm gonna be in Colorado hopefully by October and that's where those Soviet paratrooper dudes touched down in Red Dawn.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:10 PM

"Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said."
 
Are we supposed to be scared?

 
Maybe. I don't live anywhere near California though, but I'm gonna be in Colorado hopefully by October and that's where those Soviet paratrooper dudes touched down in Red Dawn.

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:19 PM

 

 

"Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said."
 
Are we supposed to be scared?

 
Maybe. I don't live anywhere near California though, but I'm gonna be in Colorado hopefully by October and that's where those Soviet paratrooper dudes touched down in Red Dawn.

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

 

 

But Norad's built into a mountain, unless I'm underestimating the capabilities of nuclear weapons and the nukes will go through the mountain. Maybe that's why they nuked everywhere else in Red Dawn aside from Colorado?


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:22 PM

Russia is just trying to keep the USA on its toes. They know the US is better and just wanna be a thorn in our side


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:30 PM

 

"Describing the fly-by as "straight out of a movie," one U.S. official said a Russian Su-27 fighter jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U jet. The Russian aircraft turned and "showed its belly" to the U.S. crew so they could see it was armed with missiles, a U.S official said."

 

Are we supposed to be scared?

 

Maybe. I don't live anywhere near California though, but I'm gonna be in Colorado hopefully by October and that's where those Soviet paratrooper dudes touched down in Red Dawn.

 

It was sarcasm.. because we have missiles too, and nukes. Honestly, every country with tons of military power is strutting their stuff, but no one wants to blow up the planet.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

 
But Norad's built into a mountain, unless I'm underestimating the capabilities of nuclear weapons and the nukes will go through the mountain. Maybe that's why they nuked everywhere else in Red Dawn aside from Colorado?

Really? I didn't remember that part of Red Dawn. Anyway, I doubt Norad would survive to a direct hit and, if it did, I'm sure they'd have more than enough warheads to keep trying in those previous minutes before the world turns into some nuclear wasteland.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

 

 

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

 
But Norad's built into a mountain, unless I'm underestimating the capabilities of nuclear weapons and the nukes will go through the mountain. Maybe that's why they nuked everywhere else in Red Dawn aside from Colorado?

Really? I didn't remember that part of Red Dawn. Anyway, I doubt Norad would survive to a direct hit and, if it did, I'm sure they'd have more than enough warheads to keep trying in those previous minutes before the world turns into some nuclear wasteland.

 

 

All I remember as far as the backstory goes is that Mexico became communist and some cities got nuked.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:33 PM

I'm going to assume by nuke, you mean air strike and not nuclear bombs, since one hasn't been used, still, since WWII. And I'm a little confused about the Red Dawn bit too. Don't recall any of that.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:38 PM

I'm going to assume by nuke, you mean air strike and not nuclear bombs, since one hasn't been used, still, since WWII.

But it has in works of fiction you mook.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:43 PM

...not nuclear bombs, since one hasn't been used, still, since WWII...

 


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:10 AM

 

 

 

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

 
But Norad's built into a mountain, unless I'm underestimating the capabilities of nuclear weapons and the nukes will go through the mountain. Maybe that's why they nuked everywhere else in Red Dawn aside from Colorado?

Really? I didn't remember that part of Red Dawn. Anyway, I doubt Norad would survive to a direct hit and, if it did, I'm sure they'd have more than enough warheads to keep trying in those previous minutes before the world turns into some nuclear wasteland.

 

 

All I remember as far as the backstory goes is that Mexico became communist and some cities got nuked.

 

If my memory serves me right, in Red Dawn, it was the Cubans that sided with the Russians in the film, not Mexicans.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

 

 

 

 

The Norad is in Colorado. I'd say it's highly likely that a bunch of nukes fall there.

 
But Norad's built into a mountain, unless I'm underestimating the capabilities of nuclear weapons and the nukes will go through the mountain. Maybe that's why they nuked everywhere else in Red Dawn aside from Colorado?

Really? I didn't remember that part of Red Dawn. Anyway, I doubt Norad would survive to a direct hit and, if it did, I'm sure they'd have more than enough warheads to keep trying in those previous minutes before the world turns into some nuclear wasteland.

 

 

All I remember as far as the backstory goes is that Mexico became communist and some cities got nuked.

 

If my memory serves me right, in Red Dawn, it was the Cubans that sided with the Russians in the film, not Mexicans.

 

 

Huh, I remember them mentioning a pro communist coup in Mexico but I'm probably thinking of "The Day After" or some other WW3-related film.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:30 AM Edited by GunWrath, 13 July 2014 - 12:30 AM.

As I just read your reply to mine, a jet is currently flying over head. The invasion begins it seems.....

 

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 01:33 AM Edited by Lexty., 13 July 2014 - 01:46 AM.

Not this again.

 

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Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said it is believed the Russian planes were on a training mission.

 


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 08:21 AM

No idea why this has attracted so many posts, it's a regular occurrence in Europe. We intercept Tu-95s all the time off the coast of Scotland and I'm pretty sure they probe Alaskan airspace regularly too. They're also regularly intercepted around the Arctic Circle.

It's also a bit of a misnomer to refer to them as "bombers"- the Tu-95 was originally developed as a bomber but nowadays operates primarily in maritime strike and reconnaissance roles. They're H versions, so maritime strike or cruise missile platforms in this case, but the photoreconnaissance ones look largely the same.

Expect to see an increase in events like this with the ongoing spat over Ukraine.
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:31 PM

 

I'm going to assume by nuke, you mean air strike and not nuclear bombs, since one hasn't been used, still, since WWII.

But it has in works of fiction you mook.

 

Yes, I was whooshed a lot obviously. I had no idea yall were talking about a movie. I'll go hide in my corner now. :)


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 02:08 PM

As sivis said, this is entirely unremarkable and is just one of many posturing tactics used by militaries all over the world as either a show of force or to test responses. You can be sure that US aircraft are doing the same in Russian airspace and have been for decades.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 02:13 PM

You can be sure that US aircraft are doing the same in Russian airspace and have been for decades.

 

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