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Poll: 4 Speed VS 5 Speed, What do you prefer? (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Which do you prefer?

  1. 4 Speed - car goes brrrrm. Flower power. 70s feel. Oil crisis what. (2 votes [5.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.41%

  2. 5 Speed - When we really thought we found the perfect setup. And overdrive was not enough (15 votes [40.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.54%

  3. 6 Speed - BECAUSE SPORTS CAR (20 votes [54.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.05%

  4. 7 Speed - Oh lord, Porsche engineers, what did you do? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 9 Speed AT - Screw it all, I want a facelifted CLS (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1

Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:47 AM Edited by Pavlov, 07 July 2014 - 06:39 AM.

Just wanna know how GTAF feels about Manual Trannies and which you guys like best.

Personally, I prefer a 4 Speed for general driving, Quicker to get through the gears, just simpler for daily use. Since I don't own any vehicles that have balls, a 5 speed just isn't worth getting.

 

So, What do you guys like better?


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:39 AM

I‘ve edited the poll to bring it closer to today‘s needs.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:01 AM

I‘ve edited the poll to bring it closer to today‘s needs.

Yeah, I actually realized that not very long after I posted it, But I was met with a wall when I tried to edit, Thanks.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

Now I have a car with 6 gears I never want to go back to 5. Better fuel economy (despite having a bigger engine) and nice and quiet on the motorway.
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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:41 PM

I love the 6 speeds volkswagens I've driven on and off, love the ability to keep it on the down-low on highways

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:42 PM

I drive a 5 speed. I love the thing, I have never driven anything with more gears though, so I guess It would be cool to take a car into 6th gear at 100 and 7th at 150

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:47 AM

5 speed, of course.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:21 AM

Six speed for me; preferably with no cruising gear and six nice short ratios.
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:56 PM Edited by Lurch, 08 July 2014 - 06:40 PM.

Depends on the car. Some things like wide ratios and some like short. Most any serious drag car is probably running a 2 or 3 speed auto with tall gears (powerglide, turbo 400, etc). Professional drift cars seem to like 4 speed dog boxes with ratios setup for specific tracks. For AutoX, where how fast you can go in 2nd gear is important, 4 and 5 speeds seem popular. 6's and 7's seem to dominate most upper tiers of motorsport these days. For trucks hauling lots of weight with super narrow powerbands, 9, 10,13, and 18 speeds are all popular for that reason. Those can be fun to drive. 

For those saying 6 speeds get better gas mileage than 5 speeds, that's totally dependent on ratios. I'm guessing a lot of you don't really get that ( lol the 6 speed has more gears so it must rev lower herp derp!). Usually that statement is fairly false as you usually have pretty similar OD ratios if not slightly shorter for the 6 speed in some cases (for example a miata 5 speed's 5th gear is .81 and the 6 speeds 6th is .84. Or for BMW's, the G260 5 speed in my car has a .81 5th, whereas a more modern G420 6 speed has a .83 6th. Or the even newer ZF 6 speeds in the E46/E9x/F30's has a .85 6th). They're usually  just adding underdrive gears to make those ratio closer together. It's really only the modern million speed automatics that are actually adding more overdrives. And from what I've ridden in, most don't even get into those gears all that often. I'm suspecting a lot of them are purely for EPA tests. 


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

. I'm suspecting a lot of them are purely for EPA tests. 

Spot on. EPA/EURO6-7 etc.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 07:33 PM

Gah, no 3-speeds fans?  Feel the 1950s.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:01 AM

Gah, no 3-speeds fans?  Feel the 1950s.

Do they even make Aftermarket 3 speeds anymore?


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:57 AM

Gah, no 3-speeds fans?  Feel the 1950s.

Do they even make Aftermarket 3 speeds anymore?


Yeah, mostly for drag racing. Fairly sure many pro drag boxes are 3-speed autos.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:55 PM

I find that 6 speed is a good balance between performance and economy. But a 5 speed could have the same economy if the ratios are wider. 

 

My dad got the new Nissan Qashqai and I've never seen him go past 4th. It's a turbo diesel so most of the power is in the first three gears, in Dublin traffic it would just be impractical. But in my old 1.2 Fiat Punto, I could easily fly into 5th on most roads as the ratios were so short.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:01 PM Edited by Andreaz1, 09 July 2014 - 04:02 PM.

I don't really care, I'm not at the point in life where I can be picky. Though I have to say I like anything with a long final gear, don't like pulling high revs on the motorway. Also 1) 4-speeds? Really? and 2) where in the poll are these fabulous (I hear) 8-speed ZF boxes that pretty much all new cars can be optioned with today? :p

 

And about the 9-speed gear box, a car magazine here that tested it said the 9th gear didn't even kick in till about 145km/h (90 mph) so I have to agree with hem, what's the point of it?


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:50 PM

I love a 6 speed stick for a sports car ex BMW, but our Merc 7G tronic is pretty good, its like a manual when even in auto and surprisingly has some grunt for a small city car yet sort of relaxing when freeway driving, would love to see what it is like in an S class.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:05 AM

Are we referring to stickshifts? From my understanding, all stickshifts nowadays (commercial cars) have at least 5 gears, with some automatic transmissions from the nineties and early 2000s having four gears. 

 

Personally, I prefer a 5-speed. I think its a perfectly usable amount of gears, and manual transmissions with more than 6 is just, freaking ridiculous. Imagine all that work into shifting all those gears, because each one, especially gears 1 to 4 probably has insanely low gear ratios that launches the car like a rocket. And then, you run into a traffic jam or someone cuts you off and SLOWS DOWN

 

My car (2002 Corolla S, it's just a fancy body kit Toyota made for it), and it's probably just my car specifically, has 5 speeds (C59 Transmission). Gears 1-2-3 are incredibly fast, and is based on the 2002 Celica's gears (C60) for their six-speed. 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:43 AM

Try driving a lorry.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:46 AM

Both of my previous cars were 4 speed and 5 speed manuals respectively, but I preferred the 5 speed for sure.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:54 AM

The Porsche 7-speed box is fantastic. There's no such thing as "too many gears" IMO; having more allows greater flexibility with ratio combinations which is never a bad thing.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 08:22 AM Edited by Lurch, 10 July 2014 - 08:23 AM.

Some cars seem to like longer gears. I've seen the Jerico 4 speed dog boxes becoming popular lately in other types of racing than drifting or drag racing. I'm even seeing some competitive TT hillclimb guys eyeing them. Certain turbo stuff likes tall gears and minimal amounts of shifting. They're no run of the mill 4 speed, though. 

Hell, even the H-patterned Nascar 4 speeds seem to work ok for general use racing. 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

The Porsche 7-speed box is fantastic. There's no such thing as "too many gears" IMO; having more allows greater flexibility with ratio combinations which is never a bad thing.

Question about 7 speeds and up.

 

 

With that many gears, for everyday driving is block-shifting possible? (1 to 3, 2 to 4, 5 to 7)


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:48 AM

Unless you have fists made of ham, yeah. No more difficult than using a conventional 6-speed box. Gates didn't feel any smaller and it's the same layout as a conventional six with reverse top left from an RHD perspective.

It's no more work in casual driving than a 6, which in turn is no more work than a 5. And gives greater flexibility when pressing on. Some of us like changing gear, rather than seeing it as a chore.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:07 PM

Someone should vote for that 7-speed MT. :breadfish:


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:32 PM

5 speed, naturally...

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:16 PM

Screw that

3 speed FTW

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:23 PM

I've got a 5 speed right now, miss the 6 speed from my Focus SVT.

And who ever is suggesting that more gears is more work, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL THE GEARS.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 07:46 PM Edited by FranklinDeRoosevelt, 13 July 2014 - 07:46 PM.

I prefer 6 speed. Because when you're driving on the motorway, it's best to reach the highest gear and drive at around 90/100 mph and you want it to sound a bit quiet. Not only that, but that is also fuel efficient. With a 5 speed, it's obvious that you are not going to get a quiet ride trying to go at full speed, the engine really struggles and the noise puts you off. Anything below that is 10x worse. Never even heard of it actually, that's how non-existent/rare it is here.


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 12:58 AM

I prefer 6 speed. Because when you're driving on the motorway, it's best to reach the highest gear and drive at around 90/100 mph and you want it to sound a bit quiet. Not only that, but that is also fuel efficient. With a 5 speed, it's obvious that you are not going to get a quiet ride trying to go at full speed, the engine really struggles and the noise puts you off. Anything below that is 10x worse. Never even heard of it actually, that's how non-existent/rare it is here.

Quiet ride??

 

Man, That isn't the fun of Driving, Hearing the Engine roar down the road is probably the best part about driving, Unless you have a Dinky little 4 cylinder...


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 04:29 AM Edited by Lurch, 14 July 2014 - 04:31 AM.

I prefer 6 speed. Because when you're driving on the motorway, it's best to reach the highest gear and drive at around 90/100 mph and you want it to sound a bit quiet. Not only that, but that is also fuel efficient. With a 5 speed, it's obvious that you are not going to get a quiet ride trying to go at full speed, the engine really struggles and the noise puts you off. Anything below that is 10x worse. Never even heard of it actually, that's how non-existent/rare it is here.

 

Again, I wish you morons would understand that the top gears in equivalent 5 and 6 speeds are pretty similar, if not slightly lower in the 6 speed. They're just adding another underdrive gear with 6 speeds most of the time. 

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