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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:12 AM

Which is the toughest most dangerous neighbourhood in GTA SA with the most violence and murders? Is it Ganton, "Compton" Grove Street hang out. Gang violence drugs murders prostitutes, Just look at the residents. Or is it somewere else?

 

 

 

 


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

I'm thinking about Idlewood.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:43 AM

Exactly how will you determine these facts? Visit the Police department and view the crime maps?
OR,
Somebody going to examine the Game code to see how the figures will confirm the data?

Possibly the weapons and number of NPCs involved in the Turf wars?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:00 AM

Exactly how will you determine these facts? Visit the Police department and view the crime maps?
OR,
Somebody going to examine the Game code to see how the figures will confirm the data?

Possibly the weapons and number of NPCs involved in the Turf wars?

I dont think you need to visit the Police department to know which "hoods" more dangerous then others... Like theres no criminality in Beverly Hills...

 

 

But i think Chinatown " San Fierro" can be brutal sometimes.. 

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:59 AM

I was referring to the REAL Police Departments regarding the maps.
Crime in the game determined by the games programing.
The South Central (sound familial) of Los Santos is where you find the NPCs doing random shootings, and car jacking, as well as the street walkers.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 08:05 PM

That mexican area (I can't remember the name I haven't been there in YEARS) where Ceasar lives honestly looks the roughest in the game. But as far as reality, probably East Los Santos would have the highest crime rate or maybe Idlewood (the real Inglewood in South Central LA).


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

Yeah like El Corona, And where Big Smokes drug palace were was kinda rough Ballas Vagos..


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:38 PM

Once you took over all gang territories, whole Los Santos becomes safe and you can walk unarmed with 1% health left through all hoods without getting killed.

 

San Fierro seems totally safe, since there are no gangs who hate CJ and gangfights barely happen there( Sometimes triads and viatnamese gangs fight each other)

Las Venturas is free from any gangs ( mafia appears just in the missions)

 

The most dangerous place in SanAndras is area 59, as a kid i had issues going to this place lol.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:55 AM

If you shoot the Chinatown guys they will attack with AKs. But what I like to do is recruit the ones with AKs using a cheat code and go over to the gang members near the pier and they usually have a shootout.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 02:07 PM

For me it is East Los Santos. Ballas won't even let me cruise safely there.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 02:11 PM

Nowhere is bad now, I got 100% Territories Taken Over :p

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 03:02 PM

I also took over all the territories. I got tired of having the territories attacked while I was on the other side of the map.

So one day I just said f*ck it and took them all over in a couple of hours. No more gang fights, no more Ballas, no more Vagos, no more headaches.

 

But then it gets kinda boring after awhile...I'd say that El Corona or Idlewood are the most dangerous when first starting out.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 03:08 PM

^^^^ It beats always seeing "Your Hood Is Under Attack!!!!"

 

This is by far the most annoying part of the game, so I was more than happy to get all 59 Territories or whatever it is and be done with Gang Wars forever.  In my first 100% Playthrough, I only took over like 20-30% of the territories and everytime I loaded up my game, within 2-3 minutes that stupid annoying message would pop up, so when I re-did SA to 100% this past April into May, I surely got all territories taken over even though it's not required for 100%, I did it so the annoyances would stop.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:21 PM

Despite most of the 3D era gangs are weak (basically they carry only 9mm pistols or Uzis except when there are gang wars) i`ve got to say only 2, fort baxter in VC and st.marks in GTA 3.. The gangs in all areas will attack you alright but they will need few minutes before take you down with their weapons and their sh*tty aimings skills.

So i`d say only 2 of the areas in 3D are realy life threatening;

1.) Fort Baxter (VC) those soldiers will start to shoot on you with their M4`s as soon as you come near their vicinity and their aiming is perfect which is kind of weird for 3D era NPC`s. So you wont last more than few seconds there. So this is the far most dangerous area in 3D era GTA.

2.) St. Marks in GTA 3 because of their shotguns

 

So these are the only 2 areas in whole 3D era where you wouldn`t want to go unless you`re in proof vehicle.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 02:02 AM

I also took over all the territories.

I have never had an "underattack" message outside of the Los Santos area.
Anyway...Besides taking all 100% of the zones. Ride a "Sub-Mission" vehicle and when the notice appears, start the sub-mission and then cancel it. That will stop the attack. During the war period I usually ride the Police Motorcycle all the time.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 05:55 AM

 

I have never had an "underattack" message outside of the Los Santos area.
Anyway...Besides taking all 100% of the zones. Ride a "Sub-Mission" vehicle and when the notice appears, start the sub-mission and then cancel it. That will stop the attack. During the war period I usually ride the Police Motorcycle all the time.

 

 

Really? I got it all the time whether I was in Las Venturas or San Fierro. It got very annoying.

I'd usually get the message 2-5 minutes into loading up the game. Doesn't matter where I was.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:27 AM

 

I also took over all the territories.

I have never had an "underattack" message outside of the Los Santos area.
Anyway...Besides taking all 100% of the zones. Ride a "Sub-Mission" vehicle and when the notice appears, start the sub-mission and then cancel it. That will stop the attack. During the war period I usually ride the Police Motorcycle all the time.

 

Yeah you got few ways to cancell the attack but that leads you to bad defending results in gang stats so i personaly don`t like that. In SA isn`t near as annoying to defend as in VCS is. In SA you got message "under attack" on every 10-15 minutes (at least in my case) and that only if you`re in los santos area while in VCS you have that literaly one by another every half minute or even another second. While in SA gangs wont come actively at you, except if you walk near them while in VCS they attack you on sight every freaking minute.

Gang wars in SA are piece of cake to me.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

@lil weasel: You just save the game, gang war disappears, territory is kept, and stats stay the same...

 

@Vance, actually the stats never drop.  The only stats dealing with Gang Wars in SA is your territory number, the Ballas number, and the Vagos number.  Ballas and Vagos number completely disappear when you hit pause once you have all Grove's with the territories and the entire Los Santos colored green.  Also what is there in the stats is the % of territories taken over.  I saved at least 15-20 times when that stupid annoying message came up, stats stayed the same.  Grove Street - 53 (maybe 59, can't remember) Territories Held and 100% Territories Held, etc...It's not like VCS at all, where if you save the game the stats drop.  In VCS I got 100%, 100%, and 47% in the stats, 47% cuz I didn't give a damn to play the game all f*cking day doing senseless wars with the Sharks.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:23 PM

Oh i forgot that, i haven`t playing SA gang wars since may. So i`ve remembered there are only areas held in stats which make your stats go down only if you leave gang attack untouched right?

And when you`ve got message of an attack and you save it or trigger a sub mission your "areas held" stats still wont go down? That`s way better than in VCS when your defending stats go down for like 10 or 20% when you save.

I need to play  SA gangwars again, i was too busy with V and VCS last months, but luckly i`ve got a save slot after the mission "vertical bird" so i have only 1 hour or so of playing untill i reach Riot mission.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:32 PM

My last date saved in SA was May 21st, 2014, LOL...When I hit 100% with my 23 proof vehicles, but I still remember everything, along with III, VC, LCS, and VCS since I did all 5 games back to back to back to back and got 100%, so it's all fresh in my mind for the entire 3D Collection of games.

 

If you don't save or go on a mission when that message comes up, you WILL lose territory sooner or later.  But if you save, you keep the territory and the message goes away, nothing changes in the stats...

 

Nope, it won't go down if you save or do a mission, etc...

 

No...Not really.  Everytime I saved in VCS, my Defended Empire Stats went down only 3%.  Not anything different, always 3%.  But either way, it's a meaningless stat as the other two stats say 100% and that's the part that is required for 100%.

 

I did all the Gang Wars before I did any missions after returning back to Los Santos from Las Venturas...However, for some of the missions toward the end, the game physically gives back Idlewood, Glen Park, etc to the Ballas/Vagos, so I had to RE-take the territories.  It's f*cking annoying.  Also on the PS2 version like I was playing, there is ALWAYS a glitch which gives a Vagos territory over by Boat School way in the North-West corner of the map and it's damn near impossible to find the Vagos and trigger the Gang War.  It's also only one wave, unlike the usual 3 waves.  This was the last territory I needed to take over for 100% in the stats and it was a bitch, at first I couldn't even find the territory as the color yellow was so faint that I could bearly see it.  The reason why you get this in San Fierro is because in the mission where you fly to St. Marks, a glitch occurs which gives you other Gang Territories all over the map.  Same thing happens if you swim or fly, etc so far out of the map, you will see red colors in San Fierro and other places where other gang territories are...Luckily, I only had one other territory up by boat school to defend, but it took like 30 minutes for Vagos to spawn...


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:48 PM

Yeah i know you mean that territory glitch (fly in the either end of the map for at least 30 min) but that glitch wont happen in the greatest hits series version of SA on PS2, i have silver box, greatest hits version which lacks this gltch. Shame really or not because it`s kind of silly to have gang wars in the middle of desert lol.

 

OFFTOPIC; have you notested in VCS  bussines defending that a closer you get to 100% of defending stats the more times you will have to defend your bussineses to fill up the percentage for 3, 2 or even 1% ?

So i need to defended 5x times just to get 1% after i had 90% defending.

I don`t know whether it was because  i didn`t defend them right from the start or it`s always like that, anyway it`s annoying as hell and it seems a bit useless.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:57 PM

I had 100% in my Defended Empires until I started on the East Island with the Sharks.  I took over the ENTIRE West Island of Bikers and still had 100% for Defended Empires.  I even had 100% as well for the Sharks, until I took over 3-4 of the Sharks.  Then I constantly was getting hammered with endless amounts of attacks on my Empires, including across the entire map back and forth.  It's not fun, just annoying.  This is when I started saving it when it said I was under attack as I didn't give a f*ck any longer and didn't care if I went below 100% for defended empires.  Useless stat.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 04:22 PM

If i return back on topic, like i said the only 2 neighbourhoods in 3D era that are indeed tough and dangerous to the protag are Fort Baxter in VC and St.Marks in 3, the rest of them are pure holidays where you can be relaxed instead of feared. And i hate that, i would like more hoods like those 2, i would like more challenging exploring, i would like that you would be death frightenned and that your joypad would be covered with sweat when you enter some hood. Just like in St.Marks and Fort Baxter when you are like a scarry kitten and you`re just counting seconds untill you hear that well known mafia`s shotgun blast or the sound of M4 behind you :cry:

Now that would be more interesting and more challenging.

It is boring to me that protag alone can easily gun down a squad of ballas or bikers by himself with losing only 10 of health. It`s just too easy, unrealistic and it gives you the feeling that gangs are totaly incompetent. 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:14 PM Edited by Khan96, 20 July 2014 - 09:14 PM.

All enemy territories in Los Santos are quite dangerous. Especially you have little health or don't have any weapons on foot.

But the most dangerous is Chinatown in San Fierro. But this is your choice, "natural" Triad gang members armed with AK-47's, if they are provoked....

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:49 AM

My vote goes to the majority of South Los Santos.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:05 PM

Well considering that ballas and vagos are equiped with pistol or micro uzi only and their aiming is sh*tty (for some reason they are programed that they never fire a whole automatic burst but only short bursts of 3 or 4 bullets at one time) i would say it`s not dangerous. Not at all. CJ has more health than 4 of them together and he can actually shoot well unlike NPC gangs.

But i like to provoke them. I step by them and sooner or later they ask me if i bang or who i represent. And then i reply them positive which makes CJ says "GSF FOR LIFE MUTHAf*ckA" and than the shootout begin :lol:

But even if you reply to them that you don`t bang they will attack you eventualy.

I like when that bald vietnamese gangster in SF always asks me "you better tell me if you bang"  lol


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:17 PM

The border between Idlewood and Ganton. And East Los Santos. After you take over all territories, El Corona becomes the most dangerous, since the Aztecs attack you, even if you´re allied with Cesar.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

The border between Idlewood and Ganton. And East Los Santos. After you take over all territories, El Corona becomes the most dangerous, since the Aztecs attack you, even if you´re allied with Cesar.

Now that you`ve mentioned it i can put out again, why the hell the aztecas attack CJ? Not only he was friend with Cesar but he also helped them gaining back their turf from vagos. f*cking ungratefull little c*nts. Or is it just poor programing? Perhaps Jose still grows hate for CJ because of that little incident in the mission "cesar vialpando"?

We`ll never know but it sucks and i hate that. Just like yardies in LCS who still attack Toni after he helped them gaining newport from forellis.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 03:42 PM Edited by Militia, 21 July 2014 - 04:06 PM.

Who is the gangs with those blueish colored headbands on their head?  They seem to plague Los Santos now that I have 100% Territories Taken Over.  However, they rarely attack me and usually just say stupid stuff to me and sometimes follow/run at me.  At best, they have only a pistol, though, and when I shoot one of them, the others usually run away...


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:53 PM Edited by Phil Collin, 21 July 2014 - 05:55 PM.

I´v got 100% gang territories, But sometimes it spawns ballas and vagos not many but some on diffrent locations. Aztecas gang is still acctive so they can be dangerous. Las Venturas didn´t have any gangs except for the mafia in missions. So Los Santos is kinda safe after 100% only some ballas/vagos still in but not many and some street criminals and five-o. 

 

GTA VCS gang territories was kinda brutal sometimes. the second island where the "Sharks" were attacking in a car with UZI. And the colombian cartels that owned a own island. Little havana/Haiti ghetto was scary sometimes when you worked for both gangs.





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