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#1

Posted 4 weeks ago

I know there have been threads stating that spoilers now affect traction slightly since the Hipster update (I can't find them with search) but it really does have a big impact on the game. If you didn't already know, adding any spoiler to a car now adds traction - all to the same level, bigger spoilers don't = more traction.

 

 

I've never been a fan of spoilers on most of my cars but now it's almost a necessity, definitely if you plan on racing. It really "spoils" the look of my Massacro and Vacca!

 

It's more than just a slight improvement in grip, it affects the overall character and drive-ability of many cars that may alter your views on them. I never got on with the Elegy for example, I could definitely get my fastest lap times on most tracks in it but I didn't like its grip-grip-grip-spin handling. I didn't find I could drive it consistently and much preferred the Jester or Banshee. Like most modern cars handling is sacrificed for sheer grip, which is great but when it eventually breaks away it's hard to counter, it's not progressive. Now I find the Elegy far more consistent and I got my fastest lap on Cutting Coroners in it this morning (55.2), that was until I put a spoiler on my Zentorno (now 54.8!). The Elegy is now easily my favourite sports car. My Vacca now has immense grip in the corners and with its bullet proof rear will be my go-to city driving car. It might be worth revisiting some cars you may have written off like the Comet which was always just a little too tail happy but now may be more easily balanced too.

 

The one drawback is that now everyone will have to put spoilers on all cars if they want to be competitive, I tend to think it would be better if they worked more like real-life and lowered top speed a little as a side-effect, making them more of a choice depending on car or track.

 

 

Overall it's great that Rockstar are adding more "average" and interesting cars and updating things like the spoiler effect (though if I were cynical I'd say it's so we have more to spend our cash on!) so it's certainly a step in the right direction and adds more interest to the game. Maybe tyre/wheel types are next, who knows! :)

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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by piper5by5, 4 weeks ago.

I don't get some people complaining over having to put a wing on their car. Most cars have options for smaller, more stylish spoilers or even lip spoilers, but so many people act like they have to put that oversized GT/Drift wing on to be competitive now. No you don't, guys. Just put one of the smaller spoilers on and you're good to go. Or, if you really don't want one, just brush up on your driving skills if needed and you'll be able to compete with most racers out there, even if they have spoilers on their cars.
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Posted 4 weeks ago

I hope tire types are next, it'll add more in depth customization and make the game fresh. I wish that the bigger spoilers did more to handling, but as a balancing factor, decrease your top speed. So, if you wanted more handling, you'd have to sacrifice top speed. Or if you want top speed, but want just a little bit of handling, you could use a smaller spoiler. Hopefully R* implements this into the game.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

No spoiler on my Infernus.

 

Not now, not ever.

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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by CReaper210, 4 weeks ago.

I've only put a spoiler on the Buffalo so far, but I don't really notice a difference, personally.

I'll probably end up trying with another car later though.

I won't be keeping it though. Spoilers often make a car look far worse. Almost every car I own has it as an option, but only 2 actually have them, just because it looks like it goes with it.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

I hope tire types are next, it'll add more in depth customization and make the game fresh. I wish that the bigger spoilers did more to handling, but as a balancing factor, decrease your top speed. So, if you wanted more handling, you'd have to sacrifice top speed. Or if you want top speed, but want just a little bit of handling, you could use a smaller spoiler. Hopefully R* implements this into the game.


If they go about making custom tires affect performance, I hope they add more options. The custom tire look for most rims (big white/red letters on the tire) looks funny to me. I'd like some nice designs like in Midnight Club LA, like Pirelli-type tires that have a cool tread design but are still plain black like normal tires.
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Posted 4 weeks ago

Great, I'll put that Park bench like spoiler on my Feltzer next time I play GTA O!
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Posted 4 weeks ago

I've never been a fan of spoilers on most of my cars but now it's almost a necessity, definitely if you plan on racing. It really "spoils" the look of my Massacro and Vacca!

 

Bang on - I didn't want a spoiler on my Massacro, Jester or Felon but it's now a necessity :(

 

Still, Felon with spoiler seems to be on a par with Exemplar which shakes the coupe class up a bit :D

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I've never been a fan of spoilers on most of my cars but now it's almost a necessity, definitely if you plan on racing. It really "spoils" the look of my Massacro and Vacca!
 

Bang on - I didn't want a spoiler on my Massacro, Jester or Felon but it's now a necessity :(
 
Still, Felon with spoiler seems to be on a par with Exemplar which shakes the coupe class up a bit :D

Too bad everyone always runs super/sports races.

My Exemplar is going to sit and continue collecting dust... :(
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Posted 4 weeks ago

Was this change intended? If so, its pretty stupid for the people who simply don't like ugly spoilers on their cars, but whatever.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

 

I've never been a fan of spoilers on most of my cars but now it's almost a necessity, definitely if you plan on racing. It really "spoils" the look of my Massacro and Vacca!

 

Bang on - I didn't want a spoiler on my Massacro, Jester or Felon but it's now a necessity :(

 

Still, Felon with spoiler seems to be on a par with Exemplar which shakes the coupe class up a bit :D

 

 

 

Loved my slick Massacro - maybe I'll take the spoiler back off and just use the Jester for racing (Elegy is on my other character), there's just something wrong about ruining the clean lines of some of the cars...

 

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Posted 4 weeks ago

It's a terrible move. Grip levels are already over the roof in this game, adding some more will make the driving even more lame. If they wanted to give a premium to wing users, they should have taken grip away from wingless cars and keep the old grip levels for winged cars.

Plus we're not even free to keep the looks we want for our car anymore.
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Posted 4 weeks ago

Was this change intended? If so, its pretty stupid for the people who simply don't like ugly spoilers on their cars, but whatever.


Yeah, it was intended. There's an added description for spoilers now too in LSC. And as I said before, not all the spoiler options are ugly. There are decent looking lip and low level spoilers for most cars that have spoilers as an option.

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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by elfoam, 4 weeks ago.

Its changed everything because fast cars with low traction have gained more than cars which already had good enough traction. I got my Turismo out the other day and was doing bad laps in the 56s on cutting corners when previously a 56 was near flawless for me.

Got my Zentorno out and smashed a pretty sloppy mid 55 when previously my best was a 56.3?.

There maybe some cars (like the four door felon) which were a little tail happy before that might be much faster now.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

Was this change intended? If so, its pretty stupid for the people who simply don't like ugly spoilers on their cars, but whatever.

 

Pretty sure it was intended as it's a direct, statistical change on the bars so very unlikely to be an accident.

 

As I and another few guys said - would be good if it was balanced to lower top speed like real life, would add a lot more variables to racing.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

Woke up this morning to see another person whining about options...

Happy Monday
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Posted 4 weeks ago

Woke up this morning to see another person whining about options...

Happy Monday

 

Woke up this morning to see another person with poor reading comprehension. Usual Monday! :)

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Posted 4 weeks ago

When I put a spoiler on my Voltic it didn't help me win races.

Of course now I have a normal-looking Lotus/Tesla, but still.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

really love how the comet zooms around every corner with even less fishtail than before
 

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When I put a spoiler on my Voltic it didn't help me win races.

Of course now I have a normal-looking Lotus/Tesla, but still.

 

I still want the body coloured roof back! :D Problem with the Voltic is that even though it's a great car with great stock acceleration the fact you can't add a turbo means its advantage is soon lost in the Super class when others are fully modded. Great fun car though, just not competitive.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

Can anyone confirm this with codes/ingame files?

 

Are you sure it's not a placebo affect?

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I know there have been threads stating that spoilers now affect traction slightly since the Hipster update (I can't find them with search) but it really does have a big impact on the game. If you didn't already know, adding any spoiler to a car now adds traction - all to the same level, bigger spoilers don't = more traction.

 

 

I've never been a fan of spoilers on most of my cars but now it's almost a necessity, definitely if you plan on racing. It really "spoils" the look of my Massacro and Vacca!

 

It's more than just a slight improvement in grip, it affects the overall character and drive-ability of many cars that may alter your views on them. I never got on with the Elegy for example, I could definitely get my fastest lap times on most tracks in it but I didn't like its grip-grip-grip-spin handling. I didn't find I could drive it consistently and much preferred the Jester or Banshee. Like most modern cars handling is sacrificed for sheer grip, which is great but when it eventually breaks away it's hard to counter, it's not progressive. Now I find the Elegy far more consistent and I got my fastest lap on Cutting Coroners in it this morning (55.2), that was until I put a spoiler on my Zentorno (now 54.8!). The Elegy is now easily my favourite sports car. My Vacca now has immense grip in the corners and with its bullet proof rear will be my go-to city driving car. It might be worth revisiting some cars you may have written off like the Comet which was always just a little too tail happy but now may be more easily balanced too.

 

The one drawback is that now everyone will have to put spoilers on all cars if they want to be competitive, I tend to think it would be better if they worked more like real-life and lowered top speed a little as a side-effect, making them more of a choice depending on car or track.

 

 

Overall it's great that Rockstar are adding more "average" and interesting cars and updating things like the spoiler effect (though if I were cynical I'd say it's so we have more to spend our cash on!) so it's certainly a step in the right direction and adds more interest to the game. Maybe tyre/wheel types are next, who knows! :)

 

I had absolutely no idea they made this change & I think its great, I will be putting spoilers on a tonne of my cars now for sure.


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Posted 4 weeks ago


When I put a spoiler on my Voltic it didn't help me win races.

Of course now I have a normal-looking Lotus/Tesla, but still.

 
I still want the body coloured roof back! :D Problem with the Voltic is that even though it's a great car with great stock acceleration the fact you can't add a turbo means its advantage is soon lost in the Super class when others are fully modded. Great fun car though, just not competitive.

Man, I forgot what my roof is. I think I own a second-color one, to match the spoiler. Been hanging out in my second apt, so I haven't seen.

Oh, I tried putting turbo on a Voltic using Save Editor. Talk about futile.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

One hundred percent true on the spoiler option. The sultan used to be an underdog with its floaty characteristics. It's well planted now with a spoiler and can take on elegies with

considerable ease. I led a race on Dipping in and finished almost 4 seconds ahead of the second place elegy. And he was right up there in my bum!

 

It feels as if Rockstar wanted to cater to the masses and level the playing field between the fastest cars and cars that were previously uncompetitive. Best update ever.

Especially when the underdogs get a huge improvement compared to the top doges


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Posted 4 weeks ago

Woke up this morning to see another person whining about options...

Happy Monday

 

 

Sorry. I disagree. This is an intelligently put together, informative post which is saying a lot on these forums.

 

Just my opinion, FWIW.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

I just don't see putting a spoiler on as a necessity. If you're a good driver you'll always be competitive. If you have to have the best car with the best mods to race then I think you're being a bit weird.
I race with some crazy good drivers in Red Rum, much better than I am, I just do what I like with my cars. Would be the same in random lobbies, I'd just win a lot more races, top car or not...

I think this is a really interesting change myself. Opens up the classes a bit more, like has been said. Cars like the 9F and Comet are more drivable and therefore more competitive. Coupes and compacts are really shaken up.
Would be nice if there was a speed pay off but it is what it is.

And if you hate spoilers? Relax, leave it off, enjoy your racing, like your car, be cool. Simple.
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Posted 4 weeks ago

Out of the 20 vehicles I own, the Sultan is the only car that has a spoiler.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

I'll still race fools with my spoiler-less Infernus and win a third of the time. Good enough for me. I'm all style over substance now that I'm rank 200 and want for nothing basically. At this point I'm just buying stupid prop planes and useless boats. No need to win every race.

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Posted 4 weeks ago

agreed, you dont have to put the spoilers on just because it improves the handling. I for one only put spoilers on cars that i think suit them, the stock massacro  for example looks better without but with the extra splitters etc it suits the big wing well (in my opinion). Dont rush for the advantage just because its there...

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agreed, you dont have to put the spoilers on just because it improves the handling. I for one only put spoilers on cars that i think suit them, the stock massacro  for example looks better without but with the extra splitters etc it suits the big wing well (in my opinion). Dont rush for the advantage just because its there...

Style and substance is as important as form and function in my book. I'm glad though that a lot of cars in the game have at least one decent spoiler.

 I agree. I'd leave the massacro with the stock bumpers and no wing. It already looks amazing right off the bat.

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