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Poll: What graphics card and processor? (192 member(s) have cast votes)

What graphics card?

  1. NVidia (138 votes [71.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.88%

  2. AMD (54 votes [28.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.12%

What processor?

  1. Intel (154 votes [86.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 86.03%

  2. AMD (25 votes [13.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.97%

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:06 PM

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What a beast. The price/performance is ridiculous. Only 1054$

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:14 AM

I prefer Nvidia and Intel but in my case I have a XFX 7850 2GB(cheaper than the same level Nvidia where I live) and an Intel Core i5 3570k. Always thought that Intel processor were better.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 02:19 AM

GTA 4 ran better on Intel/Nvidia, at least at launch.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 02:46 AM Edited by Stinky12, 11 June 2014 - 04:23 AM.

^ That $1,000 PC looks unbalanced

 

Both AMD and Nvidia usually bundles games when you buy their graphic cards, lets hope GTA V is one of them, If it's not free, then half the price would be nice too.

Picking sides, is all based on your personal preferences, some like AMD+AMD while others may like AMD+Nvidia and so forth.

For me it's Intel+AMD

 

I know I can come with a better price, but it's the best I can do so far

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($126.00 @ Newegg)
Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage:  PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card:  XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($359.99 @ NCIX US)
Case:  NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($51.99 @ Mac Mall)
Power Supply:  Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1213.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-11 00:22 EDT-0400)


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 04:22 AM Edited by Hitman5, 11 June 2014 - 04:22 AM.

I have no idea why anyone would buy an AMD CPU for a gaming PC.

 

AMD (ATi)/Nvidia is quite close though and it really comes down to which games you want to play and how much you want to spend. AMD is much better bang for buck too. Look at the R9 280x for example, I've seen it for $299 and 770s are usually like $399 but the 280x is always like 85%-90% the performance of it and actually beats it too in some games, especially AMD optimised games.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:06 AM Edited by meck01, 11 June 2014 - 06:06 AM.

I've got a i5 3570 and a 7970 (bought new for $300 just before the latest gpu's come out!).

 

I will miss this generation and then upgrade at the next (both cpu and gpu).

 

I can't run games on ultra, but high settings are fine.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:22 AM

I have no idea why anyone would buy an AMD CPU for a gaming PC.

Price?
The FX-8320 is up to $50 cheaper than the cheapest i5.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:31 AM

- my sig is speaking for me :)

 

- btw i'm into Intel/nVidia combo for about 20 years ... never had any problems, which I can not say for AMD/ATi combo which I used on work (don't have these kind even in company where I'm working, everything is intel/nVidia)

 

- also, was testing plenty of those hardware combination (since i'm working with hardware too) and nothing, absolutely nothing is working good enough like intel/nVidia, typing in general, not just gaming (computing also) ... of course, I understand people have financial issues to buy themselves some intel/nVidia combo


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:43 AM

I can see you have money, considering you have Windows Ultimate as your OS :p
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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:00 AM

I can see you have money, considering you have Windows Ultimate as your OS :p

 

- and i can see you're a joker, considering you have tongue on your smiley


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:08 AM

I can see you have money, considering you have Windows Ultimate as your OS :p

 
- and i can see you're a joker, considering you have tongue on your smiley

Sometimes I joke, sometimes I don't. The smilies can be deceiving.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:10 AM Edited by ShadowMercure, 11 June 2014 - 07:11 AM.

If you're more interested in Ubisoft games, go for Nvidia. If you're more interested in EA games, then go for AMD. They're both great companies and this AMD vs Nvidia fanboyish war is kinda pointless. Although I gotta admit that Nvidia has more exclusive deals with developers than AMD. Or at least it's perceived that way. Either way, I reckon GTA is gonna be a vendor neutral game.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:28 AM

I prefer AMD GPUs. I have MSI r9 270x Hawk and it's beast for the money you pay and it's also good for overclocking.

 

Intel vs AMD processors? Hmm, Hard Question.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:43 AM Edited by shushumiga, 11 June 2014 - 07:45 AM.

 

 

I can see you have money, considering you have Windows Ultimate as your OS :p

 
- and i can see you're a joker, considering you have tongue on your smiley

Sometimes I joke, sometimes I don't. The smilies can be deceiving.

 

 

- sorry Dudikoff, didn't recognize you :p

 

- 'bout GPU's for gaming only, well, i'm not saying AMD are bad, of course not, every hardware has it's own pro's and con's, but keep in mind that AMD power consumption is a lot bigger than nVidia's (especially in double or triple card setups), also, AMD always have drivers issues, they can not rid off that problem for a long time already

 

- of course, many of people don't have advantage to test various hardware and see for themselves what is best in quality/price options, but, seriously, all of you have internet and access to overclockers forum, or guru3d ... where you can find everything part by part tested by site leaders and people among their forum, read a bit before buying and find what is most suitable for your pocket to reach best quality possible


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:51 AM

 

I have no idea why anyone would buy an AMD CPU for a gaming PC.

Price?
The FX-8320 is up to $50 cheaper than the cheapest i5.

 

And the cheapest i5 is still probably way better. It's not even worth it to save the money.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:59 AM Edited by NikDelgad, 11 June 2014 - 09:00 AM.

I was always with AMD because hell they are chepear and I get what I paid for that money. I think Intel just over blows their price to be honest.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:06 AM Edited by thestig93, 11 June 2014 - 09:10 AM.

 

If you're more interested in Ubisoft games, go for Nvidia. If you're more interested in EA games, then go for AMD. They're both great companies and this AMD vs Nvidia fanboyish war is kinda pointless. Although I gotta admit that Nvidia has more exclusive deals with developers than AMD. Or at least it's perceived that way. Either way, I reckon GTA is gonna be a vendor neutral game.


EA *supressed laughter* great company *snort*

 

I was talking about the GPU vendors, not the gaming publishers.

 

^ That $1,000 PC looks unbalanced

It might look unbalanced, but it's not. It just offers the best price/performance ratio you can achieve. And what so unbalanced about it? That i put a 4460 instead of a 4670K?

1.There's no point in getting the K sku of the 4670 because the the guy that asked is probably not a PC enthusiast and I'm sure he's not interested in overclocking. If he was, he would already know how to build the PC by himself. The difference in performance between a 4460 and a 4670 is negligible. A 4670 would not give you more FPS than a 4460 simply because current games (and probably future ones[GTA 5 definitely not]) are not hitting full utilization of these CPUs, therefore there is no bottleneck. Take a look at this. 

Spoiler


This was tested with a 290X. Notice how even a 3570K gives you the max fps the GPU can achieve. Only if you go for an i3 then your performance would take a hit. In synthetic benchmarks the 4460 is around 1-2% slower than a 3570K. This would NOT translate into games. It simply won't, as I demonstrated above. So I say go cheap on the CPU and get a beefy GPU. 

2. Why would you ever put a Z97 board in your gaming PC that's exclusively for gaming? Those Z97s are expensive. This is the enthusiast platform for overclockers. And we're not building an overcloking PC. We're chasing price/performance here. H81 would do just fine. The only benefit of higher end boards is that they have overclocking features, more sata ports, support for higher frequency memory (which gives you no performance increase in games) and things like that. I say go for the cheapest mobo that fits. 

3. You don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler. There's a cooler included in the CPU box.  Again, we're chasing price/performace. 

4. You don't need to spend money on an SSD. Yeah, yeah. load times. Boo hoo. We're chasing price/performance in terms of fps in games. Load times are not a priority. 

5. You don't need a 750W PSU to power a 780 Ti. The official requirement is 600W. I've put a 700W in my build.  You would need a 750W for the R9 290 though. The Hawaii chips have awful performance/watt. 

6. Go cheap on the RAM. 2133mhz is pointless. 1600mhz would do just fine. + if you go with a higher speed memory, the latency increases, so there are no advantages even in synthetic benchmarks/everyday computing. The reason people get high frequency ram is because when they downclock it they can achieve better stability and higher CPU overclocks. And we're not gonna be doing overclocking with our gaming build.The only game that takes advantage of higher frequency ram is the multiplayer segment of BF4.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:11 AM

Not an expert on this, but so far Intel and Nvidia combo has never disappointed me.
I'm planning to buy a new Nvidia graphic card, some time soon in coming days.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:01 AM Edited by Miko19, 11 June 2014 - 10:03 AM.

With the average salary in my lovely country being 500-600 dollars a month netto, I can't afford sh*t unless I work for three to four months without spending money on absolutely anything. But hey, starvation is totally worth it, amirite gaiz?

But I always bought NVidia because their models' names are easier to remember and classify than AMD, so there's that.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:32 AM

As long as Rockstar don't mess up the PC version like Ubi did with Watch Dogs (which I doubt would happen), then you don't have anything to worry about.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:35 AM

 

 

I have no idea why anyone would buy an AMD CPU for a gaming PC.

Price?
The FX-8320 is up to $50 cheaper than the cheapest i5.

 

And the cheapest i5 is still probably way better. It's not even worth it to save the money.

 

That's not true on programs which uses multithreading decently with 8 cores.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:41 AM

With the average salary in my lovely country being 500-600 dollars a month netto, I can't afford sh*t unless I work for three to four months without spending money on absolutely anything. But hey, starvation is totally worth it, amirite gaiz?

In my country the minimum wage is 170 euros/month, while the average for the city (by official stats) is 400 euros. But average wage never represents how well people are actually doing. What you really wanna know is the median salary. Median means the wage of the individuals at the 50th percentile of income, while average is when you take all of the income and divide it by the number of earners. Well what happens when you have a 90% of the people living in poverty and the rest 10% are billionaires? You'll get a distorted picture of the well being of people because the average wage is sky high while most people starve. 

Anyways I just wanted to say that I feel you bro. I have to work a couple of months just to buy a platform upgrade for my PC (i7 4790 + H81 mobo + 8gb of ram).


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:54 AM

I've got a i5 3570 and a 7970 (bought new for $300 just before the latest gpu's come out!).

 

I will miss this generation and then upgrade at the next (both cpu and gpu).

 

I can't run games on ultra, but high settings are fine.

 

 

BS, I have a 3570K and a 7970 and can run most games on ultra

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

 

 

 

I have no idea why anyone would buy an AMD CPU for a gaming PC.

Price?
The FX-8320 is up to $50 cheaper than the cheapest i5.

 

And the cheapest i5 is still probably way better. It's not even worth it to save the money.

 

That's not true on programs which uses multithreading decently with 8 cores.

 

 

And how many games use 8 cores? Exactly.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:27 AM Edited by Bonaldo, 11 June 2014 - 11:40 AM.

 

 

If you're more interested in Ubisoft games, go for Nvidia. If you're more interested in EA games, then go for AMD. They're both great companies and this AMD vs Nvidia fanboyish war is kinda pointless. Although I gotta admit that Nvidia has more exclusive deals with developers than AMD. Or at least it's perceived that way. Either way, I reckon GTA is gonna be a vendor neutral game.


EA *supressed laughter* great company *snort*

 

I was talking about the GPU vendors, not the gaming publishers.

 

^ That $1,000 PC looks unbalanced

It might look unbalanced, but it's not. It just offers the best price/performance ratio you can achieve. And what so unbalanced about it? That i put a 4460 instead of a 4670K?

1.There's no point in getting the K sku of the 4670 because the the guy that asked is probably not a PC enthusiast and I'm sure he's not interested in overclocking. If he was, he would already know how to build the PC by himself. The difference in performance between a 4460 and a 4670 is negligible. A 4670 would not give you more FPS than a 4460 simply because current games (and probably future ones[GTA 5 definitely not]) are not hitting full utilization of these CPUs, therefore there is no bottleneck. Take a look at this. 

Spoiler


This was tested with a 290X. Notice how even a 3570K gives you the max fps the GPU can achieve. Only if you go for an i3 then your performance would take a hit. In synthetic benchmarks the 4460 is around 1-2% slower than a 3570K. This would NOT translate into games. It simply won't, as I demonstrated above. So I say go cheap on the CPU and get a beefy GPU. 

2. Why would you ever put a Z97 board in your gaming PC that's exclusively for gaming? Those Z97s are expensive. This is the enthusiast platform for overclockers. And we're not building an overcloking PC. We're chasing price/performance here. H81 would do just fine. The only benefit of higher end boards is that they have overclocking features, more sata ports, support for higher frequency memory (which gives you no performance increase in games) and things like that. I say go for the cheapest mobo that fits. 

3. You don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler. There's a cooler included in the CPU box.  Again, we're chasing price/performace. 

4. You don't need to spend money on an SSD. Yeah, yeah. load times. Boo hoo. We're chasing price/performance in terms of fps in games. Load times are not a priority. 

5. You don't need a 750W PSU to power a 780 Ti. The official requirement is 600W. I've put a 700W in my build.  You would need a 750W for the R9 290 though. The Hawaii chips have awful performance/watt. 

6. Go cheap on the RAM. 2133mhz is pointless. 1600mhz would do just fine. + if you go with a higher speed memory, the latency increases, so there are no advantages even in synthetic benchmarks/everyday computing. The reason people get high frequency ram is because when they downclock it they can achieve better stability and higher CPU overclocks. And we're not gonna be doing overclocking with our gaming build.The only game that takes advantage of higher frequency ram is the multiplayer segment of BF4.

 

 

Actually I know how to build a PC but thanks for the effort :D

 

BTW I was planning to buy a 4670K and mobo with some OC potential, because when I'm buying the PC, I buy it for 5+ years.

 

Who knows if after few years that stock 4670K won't become too slow? If it happens, there will always be possibility to overclock.

 

Right now I have a PC with:

 

Core2Duo E6300 overclocked to 2.8 Ghz,

3 GB DDR2

GeForce 9600GT 512MB (I bought it to play GTA IV, but the port was so sh*tty that I couldn't play it comfortably anyways, I had GeForce 7900GT before that) - that card cost around $130-$150 back then in 2008 if I'm not mistaken, so it wasn't even a high end card, more like mid-low end

 

And I can STILL play all the games. Yeah, maybe not with highest details + Full HD resolution, but low-medium details no problem.

 

So you see, PC from 2006 (except for the graphics card which is from 2008) still holds to this day.

 

Processor can last for very long, there's only a need to buy new graphics card every 2-3 years if you want to play everything maxed out. But if you don't need it, graphics card will also last for long.

 

Now we have entered the period where technological advancements are not that fast.

 

I remember that my PC from 2000 (Celeron 433, 160MB DDR, Riva TNT 2 32MB) was an useless piece of sh*t by 2003. Such fast aging of hardware is not a case anymore today.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:30 AM

And how many games use 8 cores? Exactly.

All games use 8 cores. Even older ones. But they don't put the correct tasks on the correct threads. Just open up MSI Afterburner and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 and you'll see that all of the cores are being utilized. When we say "a game does not use all of the cores" means that it's not coded to put the correct tasks on the correct threads, not that it does't use them. One of the games that can use all 8 threads correctly is Battlefield 4 under Mantle. 


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:41 AM Edited by thestig93, 11 June 2014 - 11:42 AM.

Actually I know how to build a PC but thanks for the effort :D

 

BTW I was planning to buy a 4670K and mobo with some OC potential, because when I'm buying the PC, I buy it for 5+ years.

 

Who knows if after few years that stock 4670K won't become too slow? If it happens, there will always be possibility to overclock.

 

Right now I have a PC with:

 

Core2Duo E6300 overclocked to 2.8 Ghz,

3 GB DDR2

GeForce 9600GT 512MB (I bought it to play GTA IV, but the port was so sh*tty that I couldn't play it comfortably anyways, before I had GeForce 7900GT) - that card cost around $130-$150 back then in 2008 if I'm not mistaken

 

And I can STILL play all the games. Yeah, maybe not with highest details + Full HD resolution, but low-medium details no problem.

 

So you see, PC from 2006 (except for the graphics card which is from 2008) still holds to this day.

 

Processor can last for very long, there's only a need to buy new graphics card every 2-3 years if you want to play everything maxed out. But if you don't need it, graphics card will also last for long.

 

I am still on the Core 2 platform. I have a Q8200 @2.8Ghz, but newer games are raping it. The utilization in Watch Dogs, Battlefield 3 mp, Battlefield: Hardline mp, Wolfenstein: The New Order and other new games like that is 95%. While my poor AMD 6870 works at 30-45%. Here's an obvious bottleneck for you. :D

I was thinking of getting a Z97 board, new ram and a Pentium unlocked processor to screw around with it and overclock it like hell while I wait for the Broadwell 14nm greatness and theft gift the Pentium to a friend or sell it. But as soon as I saw GTA V being announced for PC I knew that I couldn't wait until next year for a platform upgrade. Now I have to buy a Haswell i7. Dammit. Imma try and save up for an H81 mobo, an i7 4790 and 8 gigs of 1600mhz ram. :) I think my 6870 would do just fine with new games until the new cards arrive next year. 


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:47 AM

Intel and NVIDIA.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 12:01 PM

 

Actually I know how to build a PC but thanks for the effort :D

 

BTW I was planning to buy a 4670K and mobo with some OC potential, because when I'm buying the PC, I buy it for 5+ years.

 

Who knows if after few years that stock 4670K won't become too slow? If it happens, there will always be possibility to overclock.

 

Right now I have a PC with:

 

Core2Duo E6300 overclocked to 2.8 Ghz,

3 GB DDR2

GeForce 9600GT 512MB (I bought it to play GTA IV, but the port was so sh*tty that I couldn't play it comfortably anyways, before I had GeForce 7900GT) - that card cost around $130-$150 back then in 2008 if I'm not mistaken

 

And I can STILL play all the games. Yeah, maybe not with highest details + Full HD resolution, but low-medium details no problem.

 

So you see, PC from 2006 (except for the graphics card which is from 2008) still holds to this day.

 

Processor can last for very long, there's only a need to buy new graphics card every 2-3 years if you want to play everything maxed out. But if you don't need it, graphics card will also last for long.

 

I am still on the Core 2 platform. I have a Q8200 @2.8Ghz, but newer games are raping it. The utilization in Watch Dogs, Battlefield 3 mp, Battlefield: Hardline mp, Wolfenstein: The New Order and other new games like that is 95%. While my poor AMD 6870 works at 30-45%. Here's an obvious bottleneck for you. :D

I was thinking of getting a Z97 board, new ram and a Pentium unlocked processor to screw around with it and overclock it like hell while I wait for the Broadwell 14nm greatness and theft gift the Pentium to a friend or sell it. But as soon as I saw GTA V being announced for PC I knew that I couldn't wait until next year for a platform upgrade. Now I have to buy a Haswell i7. Dammit. Imma try and save up for an H81 mobo, an i7 4790 and 8 gigs of 1600mhz ram. :) I think my 6870 would do just fine with new games until the new cards arrive next year. 

 

 

 I was thinking about buying a mobo with Z87 chipset

 

Like ASRock Z87 Extreme4 as it is has very good price/performance ratio


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 12:44 PM Edited by thestig93, 11 June 2014 - 12:46 PM.

 

 

I was thinking about buying a mobo with Z87 chipset

Like ASRock Z87 Extreme4 as it is has very good price/performance ratio

 

What performance? A motherboard doesn't have performance. The benefits of high-end chipsets and motherboards are more sata, usb and other ports, some exclusive features, overclocking and stuff like that. But on the Haswell plaform even a cheap Z87 has the same overclocking potential as a high end one. This is just how Haswell is designed. These are not the Core 2 days when a Rampage board gives you better oveclocking than a more regular UD3. Although a high end board with better capacitors, mosfets and more phases will deliver cleaner power. 

But personally if I had to buy a board for overclocking on a budget I would chose a high-quality brand like Gigabyte. 

http://www.gigabyte....spx?pid=4958#ov

 

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