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How to Deal With Combat Roll Abusers

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MaxPayne47
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#91

Posted 14 June 2014 - 11:48 PM Edited by MaxPayne47, 14 June 2014 - 11:51 PM.

''We determined that the key to dealing with a combat roller is completely based on timing. The key to stopping them while you're out in the open is watching the animation. You don't need to lock during the roll and you most definitely shouldn't be shooting. Literally watch the animation. I found it easiest to not attempt to lock on at all until their feet hit the ground towards the end of the roll. ''

''Now, I'll explain more about the second thing combat rollers are banking on. That you're already in or will predictably run for cover. The reason for this is that nailing the timing becomes substantially more difficult when you're firing from cover. ''

 

Some good information here OP, but there's an underlying issue that will make these methods difficult to perform consistently.

 

Lag.

 

We're placed into lobbies with players from all around the world. Unless you're really fortunate (Unlikely), you won't be placed in a TDM where every single player is from the same region/country or with a super fast fibre optic broadband connection.

 

Now your post has clearly made it obvious that this method is dependent on strict timing within a narrow window to successfully counter a combat roller, however a majority of the time, due to the lag, the animation you will see of your opponent will differ from where their actual position will be due to the lag, therefore making this much harder to use, less useful than it could actually have been and ultimately still result in your death.


We Are Ninja
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#92

Posted 15 June 2014 - 12:34 AM Edited by We Are Ninja, 15 June 2014 - 06:04 PM.

^ This is true. But it's proven to be pretty successful thus far. It's not 100%, but it's a lot more effective than other stuff I've tried.


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#93

Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

 

''We determined that the key to dealing with a combat roller is completely based on timing. The key to stopping them while you're out in the open is watching the animation. You don't need to lock during the roll and you most definitely shouldn't be shooting. Literally watch the animation. I found it easiest to not attempt to lock on at all until their feet hit the ground towards the end of the roll. ''

''Now, I'll explain more about the second thing combat rollers are banking on. That you're already in or will predictably run for cover. The reason for this is that nailing the timing becomes substantially more difficult when you're firing from cover. ''

 

Some good information here OP, but there's an underlying issue that will make these methods difficult to perform consistently.

 

Lag.

 

We're placed into lobbies with players from all around the world. Unless you're really fortunate (Unlikely), you won't be placed in a TDM where every single player is from the same region/country or with a super fast fibre optic broadband connection.

 

Now your post has clearly made it obvious that this method is dependent on strict timing within a narrow window to successfully counter a combat roller, however a majority of the time, due to the lag, the animation you will see of your opponent will differ from where their actual position will be due to the lag, therefore making this much harder to use, less useful than it could actually have been and ultimately still result in your death.

 

 

 

lag is the single reason to get shot mid roll - unquestionably the most annoying thing ever but it will contribute less than a fifth of your total deaths during a deathmatch. the problem here is that it happens not just with garbage internet connection but on fibre optics too (me and my friend).


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#94

Posted 22 August 2015 - 09:01 PM

I know this thread is old.. but I had nowhere else to turn. Players are doing some kind of fast combat roll that makes them impossible to kill or combat... Xbox One. Anyone else having this issue with some players? Should I be reporting them? What's the deal? I think it's lame.

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#95

Posted 23 August 2015 - 06:54 AM

I know there was a double/multiple roll thing going around for a while, but I haven't encountered any super-fast rolls... Yet.

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#96

Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:02 AM Edited by Fonshway, 23 August 2015 - 07:02 AM.

There are people with modded accounts who have perks like no gun recoil, faster run speed, infinite ammo and infinite rolls. I know entire crews with people full of them.

This is happening on PS4, btw.
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