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Posted 17 June 2014 - 02:27 PM

Well, this is the most useless contribution but it was the second GTA (other one was only GTA III) that only had one outfit available

And Advance!

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 02:38 PM

And this is the first GTA where you help prisioners escape in a prision bus.

Contributed with a sh*tload of awesome Liberty Rock songs. Seriously, TLAD added the best songs to the IV collection.

Johnny is also the protagonist who most met others, Niko, Luis and Trevor. The only IV era protagonist he did not meet was Huang Lee.

He's the first drug-addict protagonist (after TLAD)and, like mentioned earlier, second to have his own game and die in another one in a cutscene that has another protagonist.

 

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 04:43 PM Edited by Jeansowaty, 17 June 2014 - 04:44 PM.

 

GTA TLaD is the first 3-dimensional GTA where the protagonist is able to roam the entire map at the beginning of the game, without getting wanted stars. Carried over in all successor's.

I know this might not count, but you could do that in III, VC, LCS and VCS if you managed to get to another island. You wouldn't get any wanted stars at all.

 

Well, this is the most useless contribution but it was the second GTA (other one was only GTA III) that only had one outfit available (and in TLAD it'd have a texture change when you took over the chapter).

 

In GTA3 you change the outfit in the first mission.

What about GTA1, Advance, CTW and London? You couldn't dress up there differently neither.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:44 PM

GTA TLaD is the first 3-dimensional GTA where the protagonist is able to roam the entire map at the beginning of the game, without getting wanted stars. Carried over in all successor's.

I know this might not count, but you could do that in III, VC, LCS and VCS if you managed to get to another island. You wouldn't get any wanted stars at all.
 
Well, this is the most useless contribution but it was the second GTA (other one was only GTA III) that only had one outfit available (and in TLAD it'd have a texture change when you took over the chapter).

In GTA3 you change the outfit in the first mission.
What about GTA1, Advance, CTW and London? You couldn't dress up there differently neither.

Technically yes, but in GTA 1, if you played as a black character the player sprite would be a black person. If it was a white character - the stripe would be a white person.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:49 AM

Finished TLAD a few hours ago, got another one.

 

First GTA to show another game's missions and plot-related content during credits (shows missions from IV and TLAD), carried over to TBOGT (and was completely forgotten on V).

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:26 AM Edited by nobum62, 18 June 2014 - 02:27 AM.

first biker-related GTA.

 

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 09:57 AM

I guess at this point it's mostly about 'trivias and tidbits' ... but why not.

It's the first three dimensional Grand Theft Auto that asks you to shoot people in the very first mission instead of the usual simple navigation tutorial. Carried over with V.

The two story related trophies/achievements are different from the other entries in that it unlocks During the mission itself -Billy gets on his bike; Billy gets arrested- instead of unlocking post-mission like it usually does. Also Billy Grey, the leading antagonist, is distinctively involved in all story related trophies/achievements, which is a first.

Despite Angus' strong presence as a supporting role, he is never seen during gameplay, and never talks during cutscenes either until the finale. This makes Angus for the most part a 'voice in the box'.
Reversely, Clay Simmons only speaks during gameplay, never during cutscenes.
Both characters serves as the gang's vehicle specialist.
One can wonder if, originally, both characters were meant to be the same, but perhaps portraying Angus' accident on screen would have been too gruesome and heartbreaking, even by the franchise standards.

Whereas each new entry to the series generally rewards player with increasing money for completing story missions, The Lost and Damned intentionally breaks the mold, where completing the story barely rewards player with a six-sum-figure.

First Grand Theft Auto to introduce an optional graphical filter effect. Ballad of Gay Tony made the new visual color hue obligatory.

First three dimensional Grand Theft Auto DLC, contributing the new standards of 'getting your money's worth with DLCs' viewpoint.

First Grand Theft Auto to count the end credits as a 'mission'. The game only includes twenty two story missions, but after the end credits, the number suddenly adds one more to twenty three.

Incidentally also the shortest amount of story based missions to date in the franchise.

This is the first game that removes one of the safehouses while having already introduced an alternate safehouse. To elaborate, in past and future entries, the player is only introduced to a new safehouse after having lost a previous one: in Lost and Damned however, the alternate safehouse was introduced well before the loss of the principal one. Although at the time, it's hard for players to imagine they'll be losing a safehouse in this game, even if there was something eerily suspicious about the second safehouse being placed on the same island as the first one and merely minutes apart from one another, initially making its uses redundant.
Both safehouses' internal radio station is also the same: LCHC.

The game has an interesting way of portraying loss from the protagonist's standpoint, both in gameplay and narrative: initially, Johnny Klebitz always had something to gain from the loss of one of his brothers; with Jason Michaels' death, Johnny gains a grenade launcher and is introduced to Congressman Stubbs; with Billy's arrest, Johnny is made president of the chapter and gets to call Terry and Clay into assisting him in the subsequent story missions; with Brian, Johnny gains a new safehouse and an optional random encounter. It's only when Johnny decides to betray Ray Boccino that things take for the worse: first Johnny looses all the help he had from the Broker Chapter, then with Jim's demise Johnny starts to gain nothing, instead losing a friend and a free source of armaments in gameplay, and later with Billy's execution, Johnny loses the clubhouse, a safehouse and source of unique mini-games, free internet and only in-game television.

Despite the prominence of LCHC and Liberty Rock Radio in the default soundtrack selection in-game, all three mini promotional trailers introducing the Lost bikers, "Meet Billy, Meet Johnny, Meet Brian", all uses new songs from Radio Broker.

Several of the game's minor and supporting characters, such as Malc, Leavis, Charlie the undercover cop or even the Immigration Agent during "Martha Full of Grace", are all voiced by actors who had previously worked on the 3D era franchise, as either Phone Booth contacts, Talk show hosts, Radio DJ, or full supporting role.

During the mission "Shifting Weight" it's possible to use any other handgun or sub machine guns other than the default assault shotgun, but considering this is the only mission in the entire franchise where the player can use a shotgun with unlimited ammo and no need for reloading, it's hard to consider switching to another weapon.
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Posted 19 June 2014 - 04:49 AM

The First Jewish Protagonist.

 

 

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 01:34 PM

The First Jewish Protagonist.

 

 

But what if Claude was a jew? Who knows, it's one of those mysteries Rockstar will never answer!

 

Hm, first protagonist to have his own personal obligatory vehicle on the series!

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:19 PM

Apologizes if someone said it already, but I guess that it's the first GTA game that puts the logo of the game in the load screen. Carried over to TBoGT.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 04:43 PM


GTA TLaD is the first 3-dimensional GTA where the protagonist is able to roam the entire map at the beginning of the game, without getting wanted stars. Carried over in all successor's.

I know this might not count, but you could do that in III, VC, LCS and VCS if you managed to get to another island. You wouldn't get any wanted stars at all.
 
Well, this is the most useless contribution but it was the second GTA (other one was only GTA III) that only had one outfit available (and in TLAD it'd have a texture change when you took over the chapter).
But those islands weren't meant to be accessed, TLAD doesn't have any of the map blocked or any of it unlocking as you progress.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 01:32 PM

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:09 AM

The addition of personal vehicles. Carries over to GTA V, and appears in a different form in Red Dead Redemption.

Well, actually,

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:52 AM Edited by ssbawesome, 08 July 2014 - 12:52 AM.

 

The addition of personal vehicles. Carries over to GTA V, and appears in a different form in Red Dead Redemption.

Well, actually,

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The Oceanic isn't yours, but simply spawns there. The Infernus is Lance's, not Tommy's. And the Greenwood is Sweet's. None of these are actually the protagonist's, but only spawn near their safehouse. The Hexer is actually Johnny's, so it counts as a personal vehicle.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 01:58 AM Edited by toxluv, 21 August 2014 - 03:54 PM.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first and only GTA game to finish exactly where the first cutscene starts, The Lost MC Clubhouse.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first and only GTA game where the player is able to use a melee weapon (Baseball Bat) on a bike (Races only) to knock other racers off their bike.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first GTA game to feature a Grenade Launcher, followed by GTA: The Ballad of Gay Tony and GTAV.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first GTA game to feature Arm Wrestling, only followed by GTA Online.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first GTA game to feature a unique personal vehicle on its genre, and not just a resprayed version of it, the Hexer. Followed by Franklin's Buffalo and Trevor's Bodhi, although they all appear in their respective Online modes, and without counting the return of the Hexer in GTAV.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first and only GTA game where the player is able to repair his vehicle simply by riding in formation with the gang instead of using Pay 'n' Spray repair shops. Also known as "Convoy Riding".

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first GTA game where the player is able to increase gang members' abilities if you call them for backup. Only followed by GTAV's Heists Crew members, but in a different way.

- GTA: The Lost and Damned is the first GTA game to feature Air Hockey, only followed by GTA: The Ballad of Gay Tony.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:21 PM

 

 

The addition of personal vehicles. Carries over to GTA V, and appears in a different form in Red Dead Redemption.

Well, actually,

-snips-

The Oceanic isn't yours, but simply spawns there. The Infernus is Lance's, not Tommy's. And the Greenwood is Sweet's. None of these are actually the protagonist's, but only spawn near their safehouse. The Hexer is actually Johnny's, so it counts as a personal vehicle.

 

It's still the same mechanic, and works in the same way was the family vehicles in V, which are considered PVs by the game. And after Lance dies, the Infernus becomes Tommy's (also the white stretch and the Admiral, the latter which might be Rosenberg's. And, well, it's a bit strange that the Oceanic would be the only non-character related vehicle that spawns in the same spot, in the same color every time, no?


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:43 PM

 

 

 

The addition of personal vehicles. Carries over to GTA V, and appears in a different form in Red Dead Redemption.

Well, actually,

-snips-

The Oceanic isn't yours, but simply spawns there. The Infernus is Lance's, not Tommy's. And the Greenwood is Sweet's. None of these are actually the protagonist's, but only spawn near their safehouse. The Hexer is actually Johnny's, so it counts as a personal vehicle.

 

It's still the same mechanic, and works in the same way was the family vehicles in V, which are considered PVs by the game. And after Lance dies, the Infernus becomes Tommy's (also the white stretch and the Admiral, the latter which might be Rosenberg's. And, well, it's a bit strange that the Oceanic would be the only non-character related vehicle that spawns in the same spot, in the same color every time, no?

 

So following your logic, after Ryder dies his Picator becomes CJ's, but that's just silly. Our point is that it's the first GTA where the protagonist OWNS his OWN personal vehicle and he uses it in every mission and if you abandon it and start a mission far away, it will respawn next to you with the same color scheme, so yeah, it is yours.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 05:41 AM

First GTA that had recharging health and armor. Great feature too


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 11:45 AM

First GTA that had recharging health and armor. Great feature too

Recharging? Regenerating? Nope it does not have that, and would have been a sh*t feature. Are you maybe referring to 'riding in convoy' which gives you extra health/armor for the first half of the game?

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 03:35 AM

johnny is the first protagonist to have already lived in town for a long time. so he is the first protagonist to not be new in town at the beginning of the game. carried over in TBOGT and V.
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Posted 15 September 2014 - 12:33 PM

Does bada*s rock music on LRR count?

 

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:06 PM

johnny is the first protagonist to have already lived in town for a long time. so he is the first protagonist to not be new in town at the beginning of the game. carried over in TBOGT and V.

What about CJ? He grew up in Los Santos, and lived for 5 years in Liberty City.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:04 PM


johnny is the first protagonist to have already lived in town for a long time. so he is the first protagonist to not be new in town at the beginning of the game. carried over in TBOGT and V.

What about CJ? He grew up in Los Santos, and lived for 5 years in Liberty City.

sh*t changed in LS, plus CJ spent a lot of time new everywhere else in San Andreas.
Johnny was the first protag not to change regions for his story.
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 01:34 AM


johnny is the first protagonist to have already lived in town for a long time. so he is the first protagonist to not be new in town at the beginning of the game. carried over in TBOGT and V.

What about CJ? He grew up in Los Santos, and lived for 5 years in Liberty City.
sh*t changed in LS, plus CJ spent a lot of time new everywhere else in San Andreas.
Johnny was the first protag not to change regions for his story.

yeah, this is what i meant to say

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 06:34 PM

The less morbid existence that GTA IV brought us into by its end, is what made TLAD contribute to the franchise, in my view. More people lived and only the threatening ones died, leaving more alive than its parent game. True, people were killed and the Lost suffered tragic casualties, but, overall more was left to expand upon.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 02:17 PM

GTA TLAD introduced gang wars into the HD era, this would carry over as Drug wars in TBoGT and Gang attacks in GTA Online.

 

Johnny Klebitz so far is the only HD Era protagonist that cannot change clothes.

 

Johnny is the first HD era protagonist to be to be part of a gang, Franklin is the 2nd.

 

Johnny is the only HD protagonist to be a gang leader.

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 12:28 PM

GTA TLAD introduced gang wars into the HD era, this would carry over as Drug wars in TBoGT and Gang attacks in GTA Online.

 

Johnny Klebitz so far is the only HD Era protagonist that cannot change clothes.

 

Johnny is the first HD era protagonist to be to be part of a gang, Franklin is the 2nd.

 

Johnny is the only HD protagonist to be a gang leader.

 

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