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[Emblems] Enough is Enough! The Time to Act is Now!

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#31

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:17 PM

I wanted to have a custom emblem til I found out you can't maybe this will help so r* will allow us custom emblems in the future.


I hope so that's the aim with this thread.

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#32

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:18 PM

Or imagine like some car with the Ferrari emblem is f*cked up or on fire... i don't think the company will like that, and if the company knows about that like the coca cola example that PGC gave, they will sue Rockstar for sure, so Rockstar don't want to elaborate in things like that, not worth the risk.

Furthermore, if Rockstar allows using companies logos, they would have used the original cars logos from the beginning (Adder would have been called a Bugatti i.e) but they didn't manage to get the license of using the name of these cars from the companies, it would be so expensive,and that is if  the company accepts to give them the right of use... but Business wise they wont do that.

PS: if you want to play a game that uses the real cars name and that has the license to use the cars try out nfs rivals.

And also PCG has a point where is the creativity in using an already created photo? the real creativity is when you create it custom using the emblem creator.


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#33

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:23 PM

^you gotta see both sides though. I used to own a sweet looking Ferrari Entity that they surely wouldn't have issue with when I'm just cruising?

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#34

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:24 PM

GTA V (and consequently Online) is an 18-rated game. Porn should be allowed.
It's just a case of R* catering to the teens and younger who shouldn't really be playing the game.

So then what happens when they have a featured crew on Rockstar's home page? They'd have to designate their official website a porn site and lose "family-friendly" advertising

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#35

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:26 PM

Where has R* stated its because of pornographic material OP?
Personally I think you're chatting sh*t and upset just because you can't make a half decent emblem of your own.
In the time it's taken for you to post this, and check back to replies and respond further, you could very well have put something together.
Just another spoilt little brat throwing his dummy out of the pram!
Jesus, if it means that much to you, there are threads on the forum whereby very able people will create rather good emblems for you!
The SVG's were clamped down on most likely because a) they'd left the editor open for such an EXPLOIT unintentionally and b) to stop copyright and trademark infringements.
I had an SVG emblem that was taken away. I didn't cry, I just got busy in the editor and came up with a bloody decent new one (it's my avi btw).
So stop whining. Bozo.

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#36

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:29 PM

Since when is stealing a copyrighted image considered being creative?

One of the guys in our crew made our emblem for us and its a lot more creative than googling an image that somebody else created and then using an exploit to get it in the game.

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And how do you know its porn? Until they come out and say it I think its safe to assume its a copyright issue because all it takes is one company to sue and even if R* wins their lawyers are not cheap and it would cost them medium to high six figures if not seven just to fight the lawsuit. Now image if all of the people who own the rights to every copyrighted image used illegally in GTAO decided to sue that would add up real fast and I highly doubt you would want to foot this bill just so you could be "creative".

You can cry and bitch all you want but at the end of the day you stole an image then exploited the system that was in place to get it in the game. You call it creativity while the legal system calls it theft of intellectual property and illegal use of a trademark/copyrighted image.

What's really funny is considering the amount of time some people have put into this subject they very well could have made a decent image using the emblem creator instead.
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#37

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:30 PM

Where has R* stated its because of pornographic material OP?
Personally I think you're chatting sh*t .


Rockstar didn't state that.

Where did I state that Rockstar stated that?

Calm down stop being so angry have another read.

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#38

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:32 PM

You should definitely start a petition, and in order to garner more interest you should give away a free hat to everyone who signs.

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#39

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:34 PM

 

Where has R* stated its because of pornographic material OP?
Personally I think you're chatting sh*t .


Rockstar didn't state that.

Where did I state that Rockstar stated that?

Calm down stop being so angry have another read.

 

no one is angry, but just know more about trademark and suing companies and how R* might go into bankruptcy if some other company decides to sue them... so u re demanding of something that is not possible...


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

You should definitely start a petition, and in order to garner more interest you should give away a free hat to everyone who signs.


The tickets causing a bit of a stir.

You have any hats to donate? I have three construction hats, an old NY Yankees flatcap, a beanie, a (fake) Burberry cap...

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#41

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

I dont think it's the porn. It's the copyright issues.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:38 PM

Actually I am pretty sure they removed that feature not because they dislike creativity but only because of the complaints they received about copied logos or marks and inappropriate pictures.
 
It was more of a privilege rather than a right. Atleast they left us the emblem maker. There are plenty of youtube videos that could show you how to make an awesome emblem but most of the people seems too lazy to try them out.

I've tried messing with it. I'm clearly not an artist lol. Searched on YT and didn't find much either. Just all glitches. Maybe i wasn't searching the right thing...I wish we could make them on xbox like cod black ops. I'm much better with a controller than a mouse.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:38 PM

Where has R* stated its because of pornographic material OP?
Personally I think you're chatting sh*t .


Rockstar didn't state that.
Where did I state that Rockstar stated that?
Calm down stop being so angry have another read.
no one is angry, but just know more about trademark and suing companies and how R* might go into bankruptcy if some other company decides to sue them... so u re demanding of something that is not possible...

I know enough about it. Rockstar won't get into Administration (not Bankruptcy which in UK is people only) from the result of using JP/Coca Cola logos.

I see a few posts saying "copyright dumbass" but no one saying anything other than that.

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#44

Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:39 PM

Well OP, you said:

"It appears custom emblems are being removed due to porn, and nothing to do with copyright issues of using logo."

So, it must have come from somewhere. If that's just your own opinion, then your post is even more worthless!

Your pics alone have images belonging to DC Comics, Ferrari, Chicago Bulls/NBA and a major movie company.
All of which probably do not want affiliation with a violent game such as GTA.

Knowing they now have due to this exploit is setting up law suits a plenty. THAT'S why the exploit has been patched. That's why you have to create your own.

End. Of. Story.

Good luck managing to persuade R* to let you keep yours though. Haha seriously, good luck.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

You seem to have somehow missed Step One which was "DEBATE". I went on to say we should debate the cause and solutions.

There's also a sentence about the discussions on why in GiantGiants thread.

You missed all of that so you could make your worthless point and call me a spoiled brat. Act of a moron.

Try reading the OP again.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:50 PM Edited by KornbreadMaf1a, 28 May 2014 - 02:51 PM.

Where has R* stated its because of pornographic material OP?
Personally I think you're chatting sh*t .

Rockstar didn't state that.
Where did I state that Rockstar stated that?
Calm down stop being so angry have another read.
no one is angry, but just know more about trademark and suing companies and how R* might go into bankruptcy if some other company decides to sue them... so u re demanding of something that is not possible...
I know enough about it. Rockstar won't get into Administration (not Bankruptcy which in UK is people only) from the result of using JP/Coca Cola logos.
I see a few posts saying "copyright dumbass" but no one saying anything other than that.
You obviously don't know sh*t about it if you think its porn not copyright issues. If you "know enough about it" then you would know lawsuits like this cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a month just in legal fees. Add on any punitive damages that could be assessed and R* is looking at a bill with a lot more zeros then you will most likely every earn in your life.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:57 PM

To get more people to sign, tell everybody there'll be punch and pie.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:09 PM Edited by Vanilla-Bear, 28 May 2014 - 03:10 PM.

You seem to have somehow missed Step One which was "DEBATE". I went on to say we should debate the cause and solutions.
There's also a sentence about the discussions on why in GiantGiants thread.
You missed all of that so you could make your worthless point and call me a spoiled brat. Act of a moron.
Try reading the OP again.

I missed nothing. Your whole debate is a retarded as you have ZERO, if not less control over R* allowing SVG emblems being allowed...
You've got to just take the L here OP. Seriously. You're wasting your own and other peoples time asking for it to change...
Oh and for the record, you are a spoilt brat, and I'm hardly the moron here. You started this genius thread... Schmuck haha

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:10 PM Edited by Winning001, 28 May 2014 - 03:11 PM.

I have no idea why R* couldnt add aspects of older GTAs and MCLA into this game like:
Hydraulics

Legit NOS
Scissor doors

vinyl editor

Custom paint  editor

License plate text editor

Wheel size editing (size, width, profile, rim size)

Interior parts

Ride height editing (lifting/lowering)

Custom tints

neon

 

this game would be even better with these features. 

inb4 someone that isnt a game programmer that will whine about coding when they cant even manually install any mod to PC GTA 


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:16 PM Edited by PGC137, 28 May 2014 - 03:21 PM.

You seem to have somehow missed Step One which was "DEBATE". I went on to say we should debate the cause and solutions.

There's also a sentence about the discussions on why in GiantGiants thread.

You missed all of that so you could make your worthless point and call me a spoiled brat. Act of a moron.

Try reading the OP again.

I'm with you that we should have more options with the emblem creator. But this is an IP issue and even if and a big f*ckin if at that, they do allow you to make custom emblems your emblems are still IP theft and will only cause problems for R*, and in turn they would cause problems for you. The "DEBATE" was over before you even noticed the feature was gone. The "DEBATE" was over when a suit during a board meeting gave the order to patch it to cover their ass from companies that would sue R* out of existence. My advice is learn to use the creator and make your own. Or do what your doing but don't expect it to end well.
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#51

Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:29 PM

Not going to happen. Due to copyrighting. It will get rockstar into trouble. Now they can make a better crew emblem creator in Adobe Flash instead of html coding


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:13 PM Edited by shootingallovertheplace, 28 May 2014 - 04:30 PM.

You seem to have somehow missed Step One which was "DEBATE". I went on to say we should debate the cause and solutions.
There's also a sentence about the discussions on why in GiantGiants thread.
You missed all of that so you could make your worthless point and call me a spoiled brat. Act of a moron.
Try reading the OP again.

I missed nothing. Your whole debate is a retarded as you have ZERO, if not less control over R* allowing SVG emblems being allowed...
You've got to just take the L here OP. Seriously. You're wasting your own and other peoples time asking for it to change...
Oh and for the record, you are a spoilt brat, and I'm hardly the moron here. You started this genius thread... Schmuck haha
 

Why am I a spoiled brat though? Don't get it.

And what does "take the L" mean homes?

 



You seem to have somehow missed Step One which was "DEBATE". I went on to say we should debate the cause and solutions.
There's also a sentence about the discussions on why in GiantGiants thread.
You missed all of that so you could make your worthless point and call me a spoiled brat. Act of a moron.
Try reading the OP again.

I'm with you that we should have more options with the emblem creator. But this is an IP issue and even if and a big f*ckin if at that, they do allow you to make custom emblems your emblems are still IP theft and will only cause problems for R*, and in turn they would cause problems for you. The "DEBATE" was over before you even noticed the feature was gone. The "DEBATE" was over when a suit during a board meeting gave the order to patch it to cover their ass from companies that would sue R* out of existence. My advice is learn to use the creator and make your own. Or do what your doing but don't expect it to end well.
Yeah true fair enough. The Braveheart quote was included because I'm aware we're against the odds on this fight.

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#53

Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:15 PM

Taking an emblem that someone else created and using it is not being creative. But spending time using the creator and coming up with your own designs and ideas is being creative. So they have not taken away your ability to be creative...they have taken away your ability to be LAZY!

 

This is not the best, but it did not take very long and it is almost all my own idea. I did see another and liked his idea, so I copied some of it. But I never said it was creative, even though mine is different style, color, and design. Yes, it is longer than copying and pasting, but that is what makes it creative and yours.

 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:36 PM

I'm not breaching creativity. Look it all boils down to this:

What's better?

GTA World with pretty cool custom emblems
GTA World with pretty cool custom emblems and also Jurassic Park and Ghostbusters car and many more.

I think we can all agree it's the latter.

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#55

Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:46 PM

bitch about custom emblems. presents us a bunch of copyrighted logos and ugly cars. ... i see no custom emblems here.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:13 PM

fack your emblems and the sh*te cars they rode in on. seriously, if you want someone to rally to your cause don't show them a bunch of mediocre emblems and expect people to care. also, the way that the emblem creator is a coded will make it so that you will always be able to upload custom images, they would have to scrap the whole thing to undo it. jesus christ those cars were ugly. i just can't get over it. back to the emblem creator.. if you can't figure it out yourself, just keep checking back on 7s or reddit til someone is bored enough to explain html code to someone that doesn't care to learn it (ie. you)  Also, if you want the emblem so bad, MAKE IT YOURSELF, it's so fast using browser transparency, you must be way too awesome to have time to DO IT YOURSELF


more rant.  why the obsession over jurassic park all of a sudden? is there some huge crowd begging for more 90's throwback car emblems? does anyone even watch that movie anymore? i'm serious, i don't know why you'd want a jurassic park logo over, say, a Silence of the Lambs emblem, or maybe a Tommy Boy emblem. 


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:14 PM

Taking an emblem that someone else created and using it is not being creative. But spending time using the creator and coming up with your own designs and ideas is being creative. So they have not taken away your ability to be creative...they have taken away your ability to be LAZY!
 
This is not the best, but it did not take very long and it is almost all my own idea. I did see another and liked his idea, so I copied some of it. But I never said it was creative, even though mine is different style, color, and design. Yes, it is longer than copying and pasting, but that is what makes it creative and yours.
 
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isn't this the QOTD emblem?

looks like the colors have been changed, & some poop added.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:21 PM

fack your emblems and the sh*te cars they rode in on. seriously, if you want someone to rally to your cause don't show them a bunch of mediocre emblems and expect people to care. also, the way that the emblem creator is a coded will make it so that you will always be able to upload custom images, they would have to scrap the whole thing to undo it. jesus christ those cars were ugly. i just can't get over it. back to the emblem creator.. if you can't figure it out yourself, just keep checking back on 7s or reddit til someone is bored enough to explain html code to someone that doesn't care to learn it (ie. you)  Also, if you want the emblem so bad, MAKE IT YOURSELF, it's so fast using browser transparency, you must be way too awesome to have time to DO IT YOURSELF
more rant.  why the obsession over jurassic park all of a sudden? is there some huge crowd begging for more 90's throwback car emblems? does anyone even watch that movie anymore? i'm serious, i don't know why you'd want a jurassic park logo over, say, a Silence of the Lambs emblem, or maybe a Tommy Boy emblem.


Regarding 1st paragraph... omg you can still make logos as an emblem? There's one I've wanted to make for weeks. I'll check that out.

Re 2nd para... JP 3D came out a couple months ago, with JP4 currently in production for release next summer.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:28 PM

All the custom emblems I have seen f*cking suck. Who knows why rockstar removed the exploit to use svg emblems. But I feel like if they wanna force us to use their sh*tbox emblem creator, the might as well remove the whole damn thing because It f*cking sucks. Period...

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:30 PM

The fact is that players should feel responsible of their content in the game, and if rockstar gets sued by some company of stealing trademark, the player which committed this crime should get punished, rockstar didnt do anything. Look how  easly you can recreate so many logos in emblem creator. The problem exists without allowing players to input custom pictures. 

 

Pornographic content should be punishinig with eternal ban.





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