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Posted 02 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

Ok, i try escape attruim on the just bussines mission but evrytime when i keep a vehicle to keep the door open its gone after the cutscene. So is there 1 " glitched " vehicle that dont get affected by cutscenes or it depends on cutscene ( how big force/area is ). If there is please let me know which vehicle.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:08 PM

? The Big Smoke's garage is open before and after the mission.
'Escaping' from the Atrium doesn't involve any vehicle doors...

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:06 PM

? The Big Smoke's garage is open before and after the mission.
'Escaping' from the Atrium doesn't involve any vehicle doors...

I think you didnt get me, i need to keep a vehicle after mission cut scene. So is there a " glitched " vehicle  thats doesnt dissaeper ( is affected by cutscenes ). I need a vehicle to keep the attruim door open ( not vehicle door ) but i have to do before cutscene ( else you already inside attrium ). Problem is my vehicle's dissaeper/gone after cutscene so the attruim door wont stay open. I want go out attrium before normal exit with big smoke. Even with cheats you cant ( i think ) since high interior superjump wont work and i prefer legit way out so no cheats.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:50 PM

Your posts grammar is so garbled it is difficult to understand clearly what you want.
I decipher that this is not a game play problem, and would require a cheat or trick to accomplish it.
The mission, as it is, is fixed. The Atrium pedestrian doors are available for exit/entry at all times, except during the mission, which allows entry when Big Smoke calls to CJ. And forces the use of the patio door for exit.
I still don't understand what you mean by, "need a vehicle to keep the Atrium door open"

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:01 PM Edited by OrionSR, 02 May 2014 - 07:27 PM.

The question would make more sense in the Atrium glitch topic where readers would have more context of what you are trying to do.

 

I'm not really sure which cut-scene you are talking about. It would help if you could add details of events before and after the critical moments to help me find the right spot in the script. Text messages and subtitles displayed are great clues; I can search for the exact phrase (so extra care on spelling and punctuation). Spawn timing for new weapons, vehicles, or actors are often good clues as well.

 

However, if I understand the problem correctly, there probably isn't anything more we can learn from the scripts that can help. This mission has a lot of clear_area commands that get junk out of the way for the elaborate action to be placed. I'm not sure which command is clearing your vehicle but the radii are huge; usually 200 or 300 meters. Any vehicle not being controlled by the active mission or driven by the player will vanish. The door will always be within the clear_area radius.

 

Added: @weasel: I think the goal is to use a vehicle placed in the doorway (static object with a hole in it) to block the door from closing (movable object, often placed by scripts) so CJ can exit the interior of the Atrium to the outside world without passing through the enex - the teleporters with yellow markers many players call doors. It's a good idea and logical exploration of the exploit, but the mission location is messing up the works.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:20 PM Edited by Aintgottime2bleed, 02 May 2014 - 07:25 PM.

Mission start, you have drive big smoke to red glowing mission marker ( first cutscene ). When you hit red glowing mission marker you trigger cutscene, you and big smoke entering attrium. CJ flirts with female npc i guess ( i never watch cutscenes so dunno what happen but you are inside atrruim right after that first cutscene ). Then atrruim doors are closed and no way out ( except if you do what mission wants ) so i thought ill keep the atrruim doors open with a vehicle. Guess what, they gone. I need a vehicle that somehow stays in the game after cutscene.

@ lil weasil, my main qeustion is a certain vehicle, thats not cheating right?. Its like i ask where is jetpack so i can do gantom glitch. Thats gameplay related, that i use the jetpack to glitch doesnt matter.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:20 PM Edited by OrionSR, 02 May 2014 - 08:31 PM.

When the Glendale arrives in the mission marker a clear area command is issued with a 300 meter radius with the mission marker in the center. This is a huge area the size of one of the map fog sectors (radius implies a circle but it may actually be square). The Glendale is the only mission controlled vehicle but it needs to be in the circle, and I don't see any hope of having CJ sitting on a bike at the door as the Glendale enters the mission marker.

 

There is a slight chance that something odd, like a News or Police Maverick responding to a wanted level, might survive a clear area command. These vehicles sometimes have mission-controlled properties. I suspect this won't work and will be a waste of time.

 

Note that all entrance markers are disabled during this part of the mission. You won't have any way to fix the sky if you do manage to get out.

 

 

Added: I think you should try to keep all of your atrium reports in the same topic. Years from now someone might try to use your research to help with another project and it'll be a lot easier on them if everything is in the same spot. If you get banned or something (too many double posts? arguing with the mods on judgement calls?) it'll be really tough to track down your posts and topics.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:11 PM

Thanks for the info orionsr, helicopter is to big i think .Problem was this is vehicle specific and else i had to edit my post ( my attrium 1 )  and no1 notice it + this is gameplay related qeustion so i putted it in gameplay instead of edit my attrium post ( cheats/tricks section ). Im doing it exactly how the mods want it right?. I dont see double post as a problem on a not insane active forum ( the SA part not whole gtaforums ) but since mods dont like it i wont do it again. Now i get this watchout warnings for proving my point. I didnt do anything wrong right ?. I might have alternative way but 10% chance it works. OF TOPIC funny thing i never knew was you can throw satchels on yourself ( suicide bomber ). But its luck based, you need throw satchel when got hit by enemy at perfect timing. It was at attrium mission but didnt know if i got hit by gun ( dunno which gun ) or close combat punch.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:45 PM Edited by lil weasel, 02 May 2014 - 09:49 PM.

Learn to make paragraphs.
Use your spell checker.
Led-by, moderator, and Admin will decide what to do based on what appears to be the content of the post.
Keep to one topic, if you have a separate (unrelated) discussion make a new post.
The term is OFF topic, and should have been a separate paragraph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

I'll say again, this subject does not relate to simply game play because you want to do a trick that is not part of the normally played mission.
Yes, the forum name should more correctly be 'Cheats and/or Tricks' in order to be more easily understood by person with English as a second or third language.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 10:12 PM

At lil weasel

Aint got spell checker ( PS3 ). My writing is bad but thats the price you gotta pay. Im using a controller ( 100 times slower as keyboard ) so i use short cuts like u = you, prolly = probally, ill = i'll etc. ( cant tell me you cant figure that out ).This belongs in gameplay section but i dont know how you personally are so dont get mad but i have to reply ( since i know im right ). Im talking bout a certain vehicle, thats a legit vehicle. So no cheats or tricks. Hey wheres the airport i need a plane to glitch the map full of gangzones. Thats gameplay related since airport is legit so it doesnt matter what he does next. Feel free to respond but not immature like you have last word you win etc., you started this im just defending my point.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:57 PM Edited by OrionSR, 03 May 2014 - 12:07 AM.

Im doing it exactly how the mods want it right?

 

I have no authority on these forums.

I too wrestle with the distinction between gameplay and tricks.

Arguing with the mods (led-by, admin, etc) is a really dumb idea. Not as dumb as arguing with a judge or cop, but just as counter productive.

I used to plug a USB keyboard into my PS2 so I could type normally. Does that still work on PS3?

It is my habit to completely ignore posts with lazy grammar and spelling, and/or heavy use of English short-cuts.

weasel has been a great volunteer at this thankless task for years. There is no need to make his job more difficult.

 

 

Um... Crap. Sorry, dude. I kind of figured I was coaching a much younger user. My mistake.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:59 PM Edited by lil weasel, 03 May 2014 - 12:02 AM.

You need to understand that normal game play doesn't involve 'glitches' which are categorized as a trick.
The Airport is easily visible on the in game MAP option. Which will show your position as well.
You should be able to see that the Gang turf 'glitch' is also on the 'Cheats & Tricks' pages.
Yes, I can understand that using a console (without the keyboard) is more difficult, however separating your thoughts with a paragraph isn't all that difficult.
This isn't a debate so there is no 'win/lose'.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:51 PM

You need to understand that normal game play doesn't involve 'glitches' which are categorized as a trick.
The Airport is easily visible on the in game MAP option. Which will show your position as well.
You should be able to see that the Gang turf 'glitch' is also on the 'Cheats & Tricks' pages.
Yes, I can understand that using a console (without the keyboard) is more difficult, however separating your thoughts with a paragraph isn't all that difficult.
This isn't a debate so there is no 'win/lose'.

Yes gangturf is at cheats and tricks but if some1 ask wheres airport, thats gameplay right. So if i ask wheres jetpack ( thats gameplay ) but if i use the health cheat an hour later ( with that jetpack on ) its suddenly in cheats and tricks section ?. The part where you say ' separating your thoughts with a paragraph isnt all that difficult ', i dont know how you mean that. That means i need keep space between things i say or you pointing that im ' sad ' cuz slow typing but meanwhile i make useless long posts to prove my point ( like 1 point for you, 0 for me ). I can put nice counter attack if that is what you mean ( if it was to prove your right ). So ill just end this who's right posts since i really dont care where you place my topics. Since you was like im right, i had to try explain why i was right in first place ( gameplay related ). But you are the mod and can do all you want and thats good but i was just making my point ( no hard feels ).

 

At orionsr, aint got keyboard and not buying it neither ( i never use it ). I fully understand you point.I have nothing against weasel i just have this lil personal feel. Its like i say i bet for $ 100k gta sa is from 2006 then you say no its from 2004. Then i say i wont bet with crazy people ( you see thats a pathetic way of saying your right but using lil kids excuses ). If im wrong im wrong but if a mod is wrong he's wrong right? Else we got this immature im the mod so bow down or get banned while he can say all he want. Sure aint proffesional either, lil weasel doesnt have to say he's wrong and im right but just keep it proffesional then. Evryone makes mistakes. Im not saying you are doing it wrong ( lil weasel ) but i have this feeling he knows im right but he somehow wont admit.

 

Just keep it this way ( cheats and tricks ) and forget this all.





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