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iiConTr0v3rSYx
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#91

Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:35 AM Edited by iiConTr0v3rSYx, 30 April 2014 - 03:37 AM.

Yes, the best racers are the ones who pit and ram during the whole race.   :sarcasm:

 

Just did 5 or 6 different races where 80% of the lobby pitted. There's no skill when you could avoid all that and they magically return because of catch-up.

 

Ghost will fix this non-sense.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 04:08 AM

Yes, the best racers are the ones who pit and ram during the whole race.   :sarcasm:

 

Just did 5 or 6 different races where 80% of the lobby pitted. There's no skill when you could avoid all that and they magically return because of catch-up.

 

Ghost will fix this non-sense.

 

I hate all the pitting crap.

But it does actually take a bit of skill - as does avoiding it.

 

I never do it, except when someone tries to do it to me first, then they're getting it.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 04:09 AM

Gta races are fun because it's just mindless violence. I don't understand why people get so butthurt when you ram/shoot them. I mean come on, it's a f*cking GTA race, not Forza.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:33 AM

I wonder what all the excuses will be when people are racing ghosts and they still aren't winning races
 

my bet is, who ever gets the turbo boost at the stat will have a considerable advantage over those who miss it.

Lol what tracks do you race on?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:37 AM Edited by Im2akillerfish, 30 April 2014 - 05:38 AM.

Gta races are fun because it's just mindless violence. I don't understand why people get so butthurt when you ram/shoot them. I mean come on, it's a f*cking GTA race, not Forza.

We're talking about regular races, not GTA Races.

 

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If I wanted to be crushed to a wall by other drivers - or If I wanted to crush others, I play Burnout. At least I get points for that in that game.

When the option is released, I'll be able to have a fun race experience and play GTA without changing the disc.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:35 AM

fastest, but not necessarily the best. cuz honestly, anyone can drive the course. And my bet is, who ever gets the turbo boost at the stat will have a considerable advantage over those who miss it.


Anyone can drive the track? Turbo start a significant advantage? Sheez, you must race sh*t circuits with sh*t players.

No wonder you're crying and moaning about ghost option: now even at the most stupid track you don't have the slightest chance, because in the two corners even the sh*ttiest track has, you'll lose couple of seconds on merit and there's no ramming to save you.

I think it's better you accept racing isn't for you. That way you'll stop trying to ruin it for others.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:42 AM

Ghost racing means I'll finally be able to enjoy tracks like Breaking Brakes. That's a good thing.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

Gta races are fun because it's just mindless violence.


No that's not really fun. Some have to settle for that kind of sh*t cos that's the best they can do, but that's not where the fun is.

FUN during a race is about going wheel to wheel through corners with other guy that is very close to your pace. RACING is the fun bit of races.

People who can't RACE fot their lifes are missing all the fun. Ghost mode is bad for bunches of good racers because there's no racing like that. But it's a God-gift for regular lobbies because that way they can get something remotely similar to a race.

I don't need this anymore, in fact it would hurt our races now. But I would have loved to have this on my days of open lobby racing.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:46 AM


 

I'm guessing you don't know what a street race is either. Contact is largely non-existent in street races. So when you say street race, what I think you mean to say is demolition derby. ;)

bumping and causing spin-outs are normal in street racing
 
Nah mate.  Time for you to quit the BS now.

Somewhat relevant username... Walker... Street Races.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:26 AM

 

 

 

I'm guessing you don't know what a street race is either. Contact is largely non-existent in street races. So when you say street race, what I think you mean to say is demolition derby. ;)

bumping and causing spin-outs are normal in street racing
 
Nah mate.  Time for you to quit the BS now.

Somewhat relevant username... Walker... Street Races.

 

Oooohhh........ too soon man.  #TooSoon


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:52 AM

I think ghost mode will be okay. People are saying that it will auto-disable catch-up and slip stream. I don't think it will disable catch-up. Others are saying it will be boring and seem like you are racing yourself. I put this to the community; without slipstream and catch-up, which just make it easier for noobs to win, players will have have to rely on their car's performance and their driving skill alone. Also there won't be that annoyance of wabs crashing into you when you are driving perfectly. No collision will be a truer representation of how good a driver a player actually is.


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#102

Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:03 PM

When they add ghost mode, no one will be playing races with it, because a lot people like to be douchebags and just want to ram other players in races.

No, people won't be using it because it's a pussy-ass way to race...I guess nobody knows what a STREET RACE is...they must get confused with that horse sh*t Indy and Nascar racing
Because there Is totally 100% NEVER any contact in a NASCAR race....no you don't know what a street race is...

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#103

Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:05 PM

I'm getting real tired of the person behind me in second ramming me.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

IMO ghost mode is pussy mode. Other racers can hit you in normal mode. But this is not a problem if you hit them first. Some people talks about dirty racers as non skilled players. Wrong. It requires some skill to hit others, in the right time at the right place. Not talking about those noobs who ruins their own race when are ruining yours.Intense hate to losers in wrong direction or creating troubles when they are in lost lap, waiting for first racers.
I would love to ghost racers just in that case.
Love the fight feeling when racing GTA.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:05 PM

Yes, the best racers are the ones who pit and ram during the whole race.   :sarcasm:

 

Just did 5 or 6 different races where 80% of the lobby pitted. There's no skill when you could avoid all that and they magically return because of catch-up.

 

Ghost will fix this non-sense.

 

 

 

You go into public races with catch up on and expect what?..lol

 

  Ghosting will not fix anything besides giving the non racers a chance to play time trials races.


I'm getting real tired of the person behind me in second ramming me.

 

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol


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#106

Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:32 PM

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

 

 

Absolutely, 100% false.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:36 PM

 

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

 

 

Absolutely, 100% false.

 

How is it false, when you can hit the brakes and as you slow down the slipstream pulls you in the next car. Sorry I am just trying to see the logic in what you said. Personally I don't care because I don't use garbage like that.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:37 PM

 

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

 

 

Absolutely, 100% false.

 

 

 

lol....  OoooOOoh really? :rol:

 

So slowing the guy down in front and allowing the guys in back to catch up constantly via catch up.   And then using 'slip stream' to gain even more speed does not allow players in back to get huge amounts of speed to ram people with constantly?
 

 

 

Is that what your saying?     

 

 

 

One things for sure...  If you turn off catch up and slip stream you see less rammy players in general.  Im not saying you won't get rammed.  But once you leave a rammer in the dust they won't be back every 10 seconds to ram you again.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:41 PM

The fact is that people will take any opportunity to act like dicks in GTA, then just use the "I can do what I want cuz GTA" automated response.

 

If people want this ENTIRELY OPTIONAL feature, then let them have it. More variation in game modes is always good.

 

You don't like it? Don't use it. Just stop moaning about every single little thing.


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#110

Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:42 PM

 

 

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

 

 

Absolutely, 100% false.

 

 

 

lol....  OoooOOoh really? :rol:

 

So slowing the guy down in front and allowing the guys in back to catch up constantly via catch up.   And then using 'slip stream' to gain even more speed does not allow players in back to get huge amounts of speed to ram people with constantly?
 

 

 

Is that what your saying?     

 

 

 

One things for sure...  If you turn off catch up and slip stream you see less rammy players in general.  Im not saying you won't get rammed.  But once you leave a rammer in the dust they won't be back every 10 seconds to ram you again.

 

 

People still ram with catchup and slip stream off. Fact.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:44 PM Edited by lew3112, 30 April 2014 - 01:44 PM.

-snip-

 


 

People still ram with catchup and slip stream off. Fact.

 

Can confirm: Have been rammed in everything off races. 


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:44 PM


Yes, the best racers are the ones who pit and ram during the whole race.   :sarcasm:
 
Just did 5 or 6 different races where 80% of the lobby pitted. There's no skill when you could avoid all that and they magically return because of catch-up.
 
Ghost will fix this non-sense.

 
 
 
You go into public races with catch up on and expect what?..lol
 
  Ghosting will not fix anything besides giving the non racers a chance to play time trials races.

I'm getting real tired of the person behind me in second ramming me.

 
 
Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

-Turn slipstream and catch up off-

Watches as I become the only one left in the lobby.

-Joins a race and finds a full lobby(long haul) with catch up and slipstream on-

Return to free mode.......

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:46 PM

It will be strange in car racing,

 

I remember playing that snowboard game and it a ghost mode to race against each other. that was pretty cool.

 

SSX? got that one, love it!

Ill be using it btw i hate bumping into others when they crash ;/


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:50 PM Edited by Vooodu, 30 April 2014 - 01:52 PM.

 

 

Yes, the best racers are the ones who pit and ram during the whole race.   :sarcasm:
 
Just did 5 or 6 different races where 80% of the lobby pitted. There's no skill when you could avoid all that and they magically return because of catch-up.
 
Ghost will fix this non-sense.

 
 
 
You go into public races with catch up on and expect what?..lol
 
  Ghosting will not fix anything besides giving the non racers a chance to play time trials races.

I'm getting real tired of the person behind me in second ramming me.

 
 
Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

-Turn slipstream and catch up off-

Watches as I become the only one left in the lobby.

-Joins a race and finds a full lobby(long haul) with catch up and slipstream on-

Return to free mode.......

 

 

 

Dude.. the guys leaving are assholes or can't drive.

 

I for one LOVE it when i finally see real race lobby.  Just wait till the last second to turn the bullsh*t off, they won't notice. :D


 

 

 

 

Catch up and Slip stream cause this to happen... Turn it OFF! ..lol

 

 

Absolutely, 100% false.

 

 

 

lol....  OoooOOoh really? :rol:

 

So slowing the guy down in front and allowing the guys in back to catch up constantly via catch up.   And then using 'slip stream' to gain even more speed does not allow players in back to get huge amounts of speed to ram people with constantly?
 

 

 

Is that what your saying?     

 

 

 

One things for sure...  If you turn off catch up and slip stream you see less rammy players in general.  Im not saying you won't get rammed.  But once you leave a rammer in the dust they won't be back every 10 seconds to ram you again.

 

 

People still ram with catchup and slip stream off. Fact.

 

 

 

Then deal with it. 

 

Dodge them, forget them, counter pit them... and gooOO.   

 

At least ONE player doesn't get 10-20 tries at ramming you with catch up and slip stream on...lol.

 

Ghost racing is just time trials no matter how you spin its not racing.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:55 PM

Realistically speaking it's impossible to race all nice and clean. It's RACING. The goal is to finish first. You will not finish first by playing nice. Trust me.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:59 PM

Realistically speaking it's impossible to race all nice and clean. It's RACING. The goal is to finish first. You will not finish first by playing nice. Trust me.

 

 

With Catch up and slip stream off racing dirty just slows you down.  Trust me, the better racer will always win without the granny panties on. :D


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:02 PM

I joined a random race last night called Long Haul 3. A couple of my crew mates grabbed the auto invite from my FL and joined also. The host after starting got on mic and said "ok everyone play nice" to which I responeded " my crew races clean". 30 seconds in I saw some guy catch slipstream and yank to keep from assrapeing another driver and in the process sideswiped (rather gently) the host. He immediately said "Oh you want to be a dick, I can be a dick too". He then pushed the other guy all the way across freeway into a wall causing both to spin out and wiped virtually everyone behind them. This turned the whole race into a bashfest withmy guys either leaving or trying very hard to avoid everyone.

I was completely wiped out and wrecked off the track at least 4 times through this race and still had a legitimate chance to win by the end.

Take your own "take aways"from that info.

Back on topic: I think the ghost option is going to be alongside standard and gta modes in the host menu. My reasoning is that GTA mode and Ghost mode are not compatable. This also allows them to remove other options below. I believe that at a minimum catchup will be removed in ghost mode because in theory if no one is bashing you then it isnt needed. Hopefully Slipstream will also be removed for this mode.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:31 PM

fastest, but not necessarily the best. cuz honestly, anyone can drive the course. And my bet is, who ever gets the turbo boost at the stat will have a considerable advantage over those who miss it.

Anyone can drive the track? Turbo start a significant advantage? Sheez, you must race sh*t circuits with sh*t players.

No wonder you're crying and moaning about ghost option: now even at the most stupid track you don't have the slightest chance, because in the two corners even the sh*ttiest track has, you'll lose couple of seconds on merit and there's no ramming to save you.

I think it's better you accept racing isn't for you. That way you'll stop trying to ruin it for others.

I'm not crying or moaning, im simply stating that this is a crappy mode. Its no longer a race but like someone said above, a time trial. If that's what you want, fine.
don't like getting rammed? Fine. That's your issue, not mine, I don't mind getting rammed or ramming other people. Its fun and it adds chaos to the race. If you don't like that, play forza then.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:50 PM

Holy fukk. My apologies for comparing the schittiness of 2 unrelated features. It's true: 1 and 1 do NOT equal three. Let me reiterate my point: if people practice while ignoring vehicles who share the road, they'll more easily hit those vehicles when it counts.

This is not at all the same as the 'press button to win' feature that's in single player. I'm so fukking sorry I confused your fukking noodle.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 04:06 PM Edited by raggingmonkey, 30 April 2014 - 04:09 PM.

The fact is that people will take any opportunity to act like dicks in GTA, then just use the "I can do what I want cuz GTA" automated response.
 
If people want this ENTIRELY OPTIONAL feature, then let them have it. More variation in game modes is always good.
 
You don't like it? Don't use it. Just stop moaning about every single little thing.

More More in variation is not always good. Cuz if I were to do a quick race or a crew race, more often than not, im finding myself in a lobby which has setting i don't want in a race. So I've wasted time. Now i have another mode which i have to factor in. So you see, it may be an optional mode, but the decisions of other players directly affect me.

Now if you were to say to start up a match of my own with the settings i want, i would. But then i have to wait for a long time for enough players to enter my lobby and wait it out until i have enough to race.

Again, a waste of time.




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