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Posted 28 April 2014 - 06:44 PM Edited by lol232, 28 April 2014 - 06:44 PM.

IV took a gritty and realistic approach to a GTA and there's no denying it - it handled it very well. However I do prefer the more original GTA-like approach to GTA V.

However, ones things for sure. You're not a "mature gamer" if you like IV. You are not a "squeaky little child" if you enjoy V. You are not "a true gamer" if you like V, you are not a true gamer if you like IV. People need to stop generalizing.

If you like IV and don't like V, you're a gamer.
If you like V and don't like IV, you're a gamer. It's called preferences.


Nah. GTA IV fans are elite gamers and GTA V fans are little children. :p

I'm probably a more elite gamer than you :sly: , but I still like GTA V, I only happen to like IV more.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:54 AM Edited by Biohazard Abyss, 29 April 2014 - 07:57 AM.

Because people are stupid and lie to themselves that things like V's driving were better.  Just because you couldn't drive in IV because you suck, doesn't mean the driving sucked.

 

The funny ones are the ones that say V's story was better than IV's.  I hardly try to argue since they're obviously just a lost cause.  They're basically the same people that say Resident Evil 5 is the best Resident Evil, lol complete jokes.  Even IV's map is better than V's, even though V's is so big with oh yeah...nothing to it.  V certainly isn't a bad game, but there's a reason The Last of Us blew it out of the water when it came to GOTY awards.

 

-The map sucks

-The driving really sucks

-The story was abysmal

-The community sucks due to lack of friendly-fire off lobbies

 

What are we, 6 months into V?  And it's stale as hell right now, yet is has so much more content than IV's online.  I say it again, Quality > Quantity.  I can jump on IV right now after many years and still have a blast.  NONE of my IRL friends play GTAOnline anymore.  Everyone on my friends list is from GTAForums.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:42 AM

Because people are stupid and lie to themselves that things like V's driving were better.  Just because you couldn't drive in IV because you suck, doesn't mean the driving sucked.

 

The funny ones are the ones that say V's story was better than IV's.  I hardly try to argue since they're obviously just a lost cause.  They're basically the same people that say Resident Evil 5 is the best Resident Evil, lol complete jokes.  Even IV's map is better than V's, even though V's is so big with oh yeah...nothing to it.  V certainly isn't a bad game, but there's a reason The Last of Us blew it out of the water when it came to GOTY awards.

 

-The map sucks

-The driving really sucks

-The story was abysmal

-The community sucks due to lack of friendly-fire off lobbies

 

What are we, 6 months into V?  And it's stale as hell right now, yet is has so much more content than IV's online.  I say it again, Quality > Quantity.  I can jump on IV right now after many years and still have a blast.  NONE of my IRL friends play GTAOnline anymore.  Everyone on my friends list is from GTAForums.

Maybe people just have different tastes than you? Some IV fans act like they are superior people because they prefer IV over V. It doesn't make them stupid.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:06 AM

Because people are stupid and lie to themselves that things like V's driving were better.  Just because you couldn't drive in IV because you suck, doesn't mean the driving sucked.

 

The funny ones are the ones that say V's story was better than IV's.  I hardly try to argue since they're obviously just a lost cause.  They're basically the same people that say Resident Evil 5 is the best Resident Evil, lol complete jokes.  Even IV's map is better than V's, even though V's is so big with oh yeah...nothing to it.  V certainly isn't a bad game, but there's a reason The Last of Us blew it out of the water when it came to GOTY awards.

 

-The map sucks

-The driving really sucks

-The story was abysmal

-The community sucks due to lack of friendly-fire off lobbies

 

What are we, 6 months into V?  And it's stale as hell right now, yet is has so much more content than IV's online.  I say it again, Quality > Quantity.  I can jump on IV right now after many years and still have a blast.  NONE of my IRL friends play GTAOnline anymore.  Everyone on my friends list is from GTAForums.

OR.. OR Maybe. (Hear me out on this) Just MAYBE... People simply like the game better than IV? Wild theory, yes. But it just may be possible.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:21 PM Edited by Khan96, 30 May 2014 - 08:08 PM.

Because it is more like a simulator and the atmosphere is dark like GTA 3. People got used to GTA San Andreas and Vice City's colorful and bright atmosphere, geting back GTA 3's dark atmosphere is strange for some people.

And GTA 4 is cumbersome compare other 3D GTA's because it is realistic. Some people didn't get used to, they missed 3D GTA's arcade and easy gameplay.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:57 PM Edited by StingrayX, 02 May 2014 - 01:54 PM.

My guess is that many people were reluctant to change? I adapted well, it was a quality game in the long run.

Who cares? I enjoy it and that's all that matters.
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:21 AM

SA came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg blak gai 4rm da hoodz, lynch heeem).. IV came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (derr where's CJ? Dis game sux cuz no CJ... why we drive boaterz?).. V came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg can't hang on ledge... phusx suxorz)

See a pattern?

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:30 AM

SA came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg blak gai 4rm da hoodz, lynch heeem).. IV came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (derr where's CJ? Dis game sux cuz no CJ... why we drive boaterz?).. V came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg can't hang on ledge... phusx suxorz)

See a pattern?

Bingo. It happens with almost every long-running series, with Elder Scrolls and Final Fantasy being among the more prominent examples.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:31 PM


SA came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg blak gai 4rm da hoodz, lynch heeem).. IV came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (derr where's CJ? Dis game sux cuz no CJ... why we drive boaterz?).. V came out... everyone was quick to hate on it (omg can't hang on ledge... phusx suxorz)

See a pattern?

Bingo. It happens with almost every long-running series, with Elder Scrolls and Final Fantasy being among the more prominent examples.
exactly... which is why its unnecessary for people to podt in the gta V section about IVs physx and visa versa... I call it the "next game weirdness" syndrome... or as tv tropes says "they changed it now it sucks"

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 08:58 AM Edited by Bi0ha2ard_q8, 04 May 2014 - 08:59 AM.

People want simplicity and familiarity. GTA IV was the only game in GTA that feels unique and multifaceted, unlike the other GTA's which were inspired by movies and criminal archetypes. IV wasn't Goodfellas or Boyz in the Hood or Heat.

It dealt with a foreigner who didn't like where he was or what he was doing. Maybe that didn't sit well with many.

 

Actually GTA IV seems to be inspired by a russian film called Brat (Brother) and IV borrows heavily from the film, everything from style to music to protag. But that wasn't familiar enough.

 

I love GTA IV, tried liking V, but the game wasn't made for SP. None of the character were developed and the story was just a lazy hurried experience.

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 09:09 AM

People want simplicity and familiarity. GTA IV was the only game in GTA that feels unique and multifaceted, unlike the other GTA's which were inspired by movies and criminal archetypes. IV wasn't Goodfellas or Boyz in the Hood or Heat.

It dealt with a foreigner who didn't like where he was or what he was doing. Maybe that didn't sit well with many.

 

Actually GTA IV seems to be inspired by a russian film called Brat (Brother) and IV borrows heavily from the film, everything from style to music to protag. But that wasn't familiar enough.

 

I love GTA IV, tried liking V, but the game wasn't made for SP. None of the character were developed and the story was just a lazy hurried experience.

R* had balls when they made GTA IV and TLAD.

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 09:26 AM

If an artist doesn't alienate some people every now and then they aren't doing it right. That is how I feel.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 09:34 AM

If an artist doesn't alienate some people every now and then they aren't doing it right. That is how I feel.

 

Assuming that the artist's vision isn't tainted by greed or people pleasing.

On your previous post: I don't think people should be called stupid either, I think it comes from what you expect from GTA. Do you want a fun balls out experience or a deep immersive experience. I'd rather go for the latter because of the realistic graphics and the existence of series that specialise in balls out crazy fun.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 09:40 AM

 

If an artist doesn't alienate some people every now and then they aren't doing it right. That is how I feel.

 

Assuming that the artist's vision isn't tainted by greed or people pleasing.

On your previous post: I don't think people should be called stupid either, I think it comes from what you expect from GTA. Do you want a fun balls out experience or a deep immersive experience. I'd rather go for the latter because of the realistic graphics and the existence of series that specialise in balls out crazy fun.

 

I like both and as much as I like V it has have elements of people pleasing. I will always respect them for making IV but I understand why they didn't do something like that twice in a row.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:07 AM

Look at most people in both real life and around the forums. Most of them will tell you that they started with San Andreas, and a fair few will tell you they've never touched anything made before then. They see San Andreas as the definition of GTA. They think that if it doesn't have a West Coast feel, a gangbanger protagonist, crazy pink afros and a jetpack that it can't be classified as a GTA game.

I value people's opinions on which GTA is and isn't the best. But as long as people keep basing their perception of GTA on a single game we're always going to have people bitching about how inferior [insert GTA title here] is.
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Posted 04 May 2014 - 12:22 PM Edited by Aljohnk, 04 May 2014 - 12:23 PM.

To me, GTA IV is more like a realism of life. The dark and gritty atmosphere of LC with dangerous people with a decent storyline made me remember the game. Until TBOGT came along, it was a time to move on from GTA IV because it changed my point of view in LC, because we are introduced to new setting like clubs, sex, crazy weapons and blablablahh. About the features of the game, if you compare closely to San andreas you realize that GTA IV was toned down like no jetpacks, tanks, no planes(9/11?), less mini-game activities, small map, etc. until again, it was re-introduced back in DLCs later and I think people back then that GTA IV is gonna more revolutionary than San Andreas. With V released, some people no longer look back in GTA IV because it had different gameplay features and atmosphere of the game which they are bringing most of the GTA SA features back. I will never ever play GTA IV again unless I want the nostalgia back but I doubt it. Of course, I liked GTA IV and I had lots of memories to it with all my social club videos but I figured it was time to move on. For GTA V, there are some things that they don't have the features from IV didn't have one which is the storyline of the game.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:18 AM

I never understood hating on any game. If you don't like it, don't play it. Personally, I've enjoyed every game since GTA 3. I just look at the positives of each, some just need to chill with the negativity and have fun.
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:36 AM

 

IV took a gritty and realistic approach to a GTA and there's no denying it - it handled it very well. However I do prefer the more original GTA-like approach to GTA V.

However, ones things for sure. You're not a "mature gamer" if you like IV. You are not a "squeaky little child" if you enjoy V. You are not "a true gamer" if you like V, you are not a true gamer if you like IV. People need to stop generalizing.

If you like IV and don't like V, you're a gamer.
If you like V and don't like IV, you're a gamer. It's called preferences.


Nah. GTA IV fans are elite gamers and GTA V fans are little children. :p

 

Preach it to the choir big brother!!!

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:36 PM

I love GTA IV! I don't get why others hate it. So what if it has no tanks or planes? It's still fun. If only it had a way to not lose saved cars and customize cars. Other than that, GTA IV is a great game! (At least for me)
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:57 PM

Basically, when gta iv came out people were so used to the games being overly happy and being all sunshine and smiles that it took them by surprise, because of its dark and serious storyline. Because gta iv wasn't overly dramatic the 12 year old fanboys started to hate it. And that is why the best gta game in the series is the most hated.
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:21 AM Edited by VanillaIce, 24 May 2014 - 01:23 AM.

i have always said if IV Was not a Grand Theft Auto Title it would of been more Liked i think people or shall we say the Casual Fans have this False Misconception that San Andreas is what Gta Is Meant To be im not a fan Of San Andreas myself but its such a hugely popular game so going in the Almost  Opposite Direction  was always  asking for Trouble but im glad they did cause they Created the Best Grand Theft Auto Thus Far.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:40 AM

well, people hate Iv because of :

No tanks

No jetpacks

No planes

No bicycles

Non controlable train

Not much weapons in the game

Non attachable trailers

No crazy massive vehicles (ex. Bulldozer, Dumper (like GTA SA or V)


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:03 PM

Personnally, i hate V ALOT more for these, own oppinion reasons:
The drivng felt LOTS more SR thirdy, i was playong lots of gta iv and sr3 up to the release of V. The night beofre the game came out i played iv for ages. It was / is great.

If you hate it youl know what i mean here. When you jump of somthing(stairs for instance, via banister) youl just go into ragdoll mode the second you lobbed over. In IV youd fall for a bit and if you where high enough, then start to fall, much better

This isnt ingame, but i got the game and looked at the case/box. The front looked decent. Buzzard, franklin, gas mask guy... But looked at the back and was dissapointed. A f*cking helecopter in the evening sky( cos every one wants a police chopper at dinner time) also, the blurb was utter nonsense that didnt hype me up at all.

Finally, the shooting and aiming.( especially in online) on IV, you hid behind a corner say a guy coming, and had a realistic turning action to actually aim at them. In V you wanna shoot some one. Hide behind a corner hold LT and then RT. (What im saying is on gta iv multiplayer, there was no auto aim so you had to be skilled, lucky or a hacker/modder. In GTAO, its as simple as just look and kill.)


Anyways, so you know, i do like V. But IV was amazing. V kinda felt like they took a big step back and a small one forwards(san andreas, fun in the 90s since it was about wrecking stuff up. But now we have san andreas again in 2013, where what was good then isnt fun now. Getting minigunned down in online because you have a better car than that asshole level 999.

(Wow such a v rant for a topic about rants for iv) also, bloody leveling system that you actually need to have fun. If you just free roam it in IV, you get weapons vehicles and every other thing for free. In V, pay for cars or get cops on you. Buy weapons or get wasted for fun. Break someones chrome adder -12k for you. Some one breaks YOUR chrome adder and doesnt nave money, another -12k for you.


Right il stop now, but these are a few things i "dislike" about V :cool:

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:20 AM

It really boils down to preference. I personally admired Rockstar's approach with IV. It was incredibly ambitious and it took on a darker tone much like RDR and Max Payne 3. Now, I won't put IV on a pedestal and claim that it's the best game ever, but at the same time, I give R* credit for trying something different and original.

As for V, I feel as though R* just said: "oh. The gamers didn't really like what we did with IV or TLAD hmm? Most of the good reviews were on TBoGT. Hmm.. Well people, how bout we give the majority what they want!!"

And thus, in V, we see a lack of creative storytelling, interesting narrative, and poor character development. I understand that the gameplay may be fun, but I was one of the people that was interested in R*'s dark approach in IV. I had my hopes let down unfortunately.

But oh well. That's my opinion and explanation.
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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:20 AM

Ironically, the vast majority of the gamers wanted what Roman promised to Niko. That is to say supercars, women, mansion, money, beaches, etc. but what they got is just the realistic side of Grand Thett Auto. Seriously, you can't say that IV isn't the most realistic GTA so far. People keep complaining about the driving, but IV's system seems to be the most faithful to reality, if we compare it with others GTAs. Being a San Andreas fan, I realized in 2008 that IV provided me with this particular feeling, the feeling of being the character. The game can be compared to an extended novel, yet dark novel, in which you commiserate with the main character. If you don't appreciate IV, you are either too young or too stupid to understand a well-written story. That's the truth. Thanks to all people in here who endeavor to defend IV. You're the truest.
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Posted 15 June 2014 - 07:37 AM

I don't know why V even got brought up here. The hate for IV was in full swing long before V was even a twinkle in Rockstar's eye. I don't get it (nor do I get the hate for V), but it's an old punching bag.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 11:43 AM

The reason I feel there is such hatred of IV is because people were unwilling to change. I will admit I didn't like certain changes in IV initially but I stuck in there and it grew on me. Another reason I have grown to love it is because of the themes and settings which I glossed over on my first playthroughs.

 

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:18 PM

Because it lacked the following

 

Explosions

 

Tanks

 

Unnecessary swearing every 5 seconds

 

Unnecessary explosions every 5 seconds

 

Cars that will stick to the road and go 1000 mph even if its a minivan

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 05:56 PM

IV's terrible replay value and annoying A.I. for starters. The small map, the concentration on more realistic gameplay after a game like San Andreas, the poor graphics for the PS3/360 gen, and low number of weapons, cheats, clothes, and customablity.

 

I thought the controls were fine.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:24 PM

IV's terrible replay value and annoying A.I. for starters. The small map, the concentration on more realistic gameplay after a game like San Andreas, the poor graphics for the PS3/360 gen, and low number of weapons, cheats, clothes, and customablity.

 

I thought the controls were fine.

Terrible replay value? Considering it has such a good story and an amazing atmosphere, It's great to replay.

I don't see how AI could be annoying at all, apart from friend calls. Everyone complains that the AI in GTA V is annoying with peds calling cops on you for nothing.

Compared to III and VC, the map isn't small.

The realism made vehicles so much more fun to drive.

Graphics aren't poor.

And it was the first game on a new console.

 

But they did spend too much time on useless things, the TV commercials, the internet websites full of useless details, look at that nice machete in the commercials that you can't use, or the Red Buffalo billboard yet the only available one is a Black FIB variant!

Besides, GTA V doesn't have many cheats either.

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