You had to look so hard far back to 2009 and still couldn't show a group of Black officers that jumped or shot and killed a Black man. Like I said, there are criminals and scum in every race, but there are more evidence of Whites still beating and killing Blacks at a larger scale than Black police officers. Chris Doner's manifesto already proved that a whole police department is guilty of targeting and racial profiling against Blacks. I'll take that in trade of beating shot and killed by a White police officer.
You're being incredibly disingenuous. I'm not disputing racism in the police force at all. I'm not saying the police don't racially profile people, and I admitted that police violence affects black people at a much greater rate than anyone else. What I am saying is police violence isn't necessarily racist, it's just how the police operate, regardless of what color they happen to be.
You say the police aren't racist but clearly admit to the racial profiling that goes on. How laughable are you? The only thing you've shown me was an atypical situation compared to the typical White police brutality we already discussed. You haven't shown me any evidence of why separation would be bad for Black people nor have you shown me any proof how integration has given Black people any empowerment either. I am curious why you even care what Blacks do anyway. What benefit do you get from us integrating? I already know the REAL answer, but amuse me with your cliche playbook argument.
You're intentionally twisting my words. I never said the police aren't racist, I said that police violence isn't always racially-motivated, hence why white people are beat/shot/killed by police too. I'm sure you heard about Kelly Thomas, the homeless man who was beat to death by police in Fullerton, CA, and the cops walked. The motivation clearly wasn't race, as Kelly was white. Kelly's case is not unique, either.
How would separation be good for anyone? Wouldn't your society still have a capitalist mode of production, complete with classes and class antagonisms? Wouldn't there still be exploitation and alienation? Wouldn't there still be cops patrolling the streets, beating and shooting people? It's the same sh*t out of a different asshole.
Racial politics do nothing but detract from what is far more important, and far more divisive, and that is the issue of class. Furthermore, race is an outdated social construct that must be abolished.
Sure, we can also say the sky isn't always blue somewhere in America. We are talking about the norm here, and the norm is that police typically assume a Black man is up to no good or has a gun. I think I can speak as a Black man about that. I assume you are White and really have no say what goes on in our communities, only your hopeful, intellectually dishonest view that it doesn't happen majority of the time. However, we already disproved that with cases, murders, beatings and Chris Doner's manifesto. You couldn't even find more cases of Black police officers jumping or killing a Black man than White police officers doing the exact same thing.
Kelly is atypical. Again you can't find me the norm of police brutality on Whites, you can only find me atypical situations.
Again, I already showed you proof how a segregated Black society worked, yet all you can do assume what a segregated modern society can do. I can even say we are already segregated, except economically. Economic power was integrated to have Blacks at the bottom of the totem pole equipped with welfare and broken families.
Everytime someone Black brings up racial empowerment, race should automatically be abolished even though there are still racial profiling, injustice, and economic depowerment going on towards Blacks everyday. Obviously the government and the majority of people don't see human beings, they see color, and that is where society is now. You can't just erase the history, close your ears, and wish it away.
@Myron go to any China town and you'll have your answer. I was going to save that for later. Which one? Yes, so many you have to ask which one. Anyone. But Whites don't have a problem with that, only when Blacks start talking about it.