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#91

Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:22 PM Edited by Zwenkwiel, 21 April 2014 - 01:22 PM.

 

griefing is a myth

there's just people who are stupid piss-ants and people who play to enjoy themselves

the myth that is griefing was created by the people who aren't twits

when the people who are idiots are being stupid morons the people who playing for fun, take issue

that in a nutshell is what the people who can't be bothered with douchebags would call griefing

while anyone who's asshole knows it's just pathetic people being assholes

 

you see?

Fixed.

 

 

I think I can geuss which group you belong to.

cuz that post is just chock full of cry XD


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:38 PM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrieferA griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game, using aspects of the game in unintended ways.


Wikipedia as source - Aaaaww yeaah!

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:41 PM Edited by bronysplatter, 21 April 2014 - 03:43 PM.

A griefer is someone who sees you are not interested in fighting back because you got other things to do, but continuously follows and kills you.

Eg: I bought a new turismo and as I exited my garage I got killed, when I respawned and went back to get my vehicle I got killed, my vehicle gets destroyed. I phone insurance then mechanic then take my car to lsc, after pimping my car I exit lsc and i get killed. All by one person.

are you on ps3?

 

if so i think that was me. a lvl 17 has no business with a turismo.


 

Text from 'Bad Sport' loading screen:
 
"GTA Online
 
Don't Be a Bad Sport
 
Bad Sports won't propser for very long - they end up in the Bad Sport pool.
 
If you encounter a toxic player ruining your fun, you can Report them by viewing their player card (via Online > Players in the Pause Menu) and selecting 'Report'. You can also specify your reason for reporting them, all within a few clicks.
 
Players reported frequently will be made to wear a Dunce hat and play in the Bad Sport pool with all the other reprobates."
 
Reporting Options:
 
* Griefing
* Exploits
* Game Bug Exploits
* Voice Chat: Annoying
* Voice Chat: Using Hate Speech
* Other
 
SO, griefing isn't using exploits (glitches/mods/hacks) or calling other players 'fa**ots', 'pussies', racial slurs, etc.
 
Griefing is causing other players grief, 'ruining their fun' - spoiling their enjoyment of the GTA Online gaming experience.
 
There is no list of acts that qualify as being classed as 'fun ruining' but I am sure we could make one (using the previous comments):
 
* Blowing up personal vehicles
* Camping outside player's garages/apartments
* Using a tank to kill players
* Harrasing other players
* Irritating other players
* Repeated killing/spawn killing
* Using vehicles with bulletproofed rear to kill players
* Targeting lower-level players

 

 

ok. 2 things.

 

i already covered blowing up peoples pvs, and the bower-upper has to pay the insurance. 

 

and a tank isnt a tank unless its blowing something up. so that is just invalid.

 

other than that, your entire lower end list is invalid. all of that stuff is just "free roam"

 

so i guess free roam is just one big grief..

 

i could t bone another players car by not seeing him coming on the map at an interesection, and he could have just come out of an lsc having gotten it repaired. by your logic, thats a reportable grief.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:52 PM

 

 

 

 

I got "greifed" for the first time last week. This guy sniped me from god knows where, I respawned and before I could even figure out where I had respawned let alone get a weapon out I had been sniped again. This happened over and over. It pissed me off, sure...but I just changed sessions.

lol just did this to some noob low level yesterday. It was an open area at some hills so he couldnt get away just sniping him like 10 times before he finally left=) I must say it was their fault as I killed them first cause they had a bounty on them was just gona collect the bounty and leave but the poor bastard didnt know any better and they went after me and tried to run me over w their car.
Got them15-1 before they left. Its not griefing imo as i had a mission to collect the bounty and they started the fight?

 

It actually is. If they're low level, what gain do you get from fighting them when you know you're gonna win? Get the bounty, move on to something else. Go pick a fight with someone who stands a chance fighting you back. Preying on low levels makes you worse then a griefer...it makes you a coward.

 

Food for thought.

 

I see what you're saying but how does that work when when said low-level player keeps on coming at you and doesn't know when to give up?

I've had a similar experience with a few players who just don't stop trying to attack you, then start bitching when they're getting completely owned. I'm all up for a little battle, but don't bitch about it when you'e not getting near me (i don't mean yourself)

 

Not claiming to be better than i am but stupidity runs so high which some players. If you keep going after a player and they're killing you each time, maybe take the hint and stop

 

 

 

 

 

 

I got "greifed" for the first time last week. This guy sniped me from god knows where, I respawned and before I could even figure out where I had respawned let alone get a weapon out I had been sniped again. This happened over and over. It pissed me off, sure...but I just changed sessions.

lol just did this to some noob low level yesterday. It was an open area at some hills so he couldnt get away just sniping him like 10 times before he finally left=) I must say it was their fault as I killed them first cause they had a bounty on them was just gona collect the bounty and leave but the poor bastard didnt know any better and they went after me and tried to run me over w their car.
Got them15-1 before they left. Its not griefing imo as i had a mission to collect the bounty and they started the fight?
It actually is. If they're low level, what gain do you get from fighting them when you know you're gonna win? Get the bounty, move on to something else. Go pick a fight with someone who stands a chance fighting you back. Preying on low levels makes you worse then a griefer...it makes you a coward.
 
Food for thought.
Its a game and I like to play it how I feel at the time do it my way. if they are stupid enough to come after me bad luck for them I will kill them as much as I can. They started the war and I was gona give them half of the bounty but they attack so they die;)

 

I've been this scenario many times before with lower levels then me. It's only amusing for me the 1st two times I kill them, then I get bored. If I'm going to fight someone in free mode, I do it as a challenge to test my own skill against them, usually someone who's as high a level as me. If I see someone who's a lower level then me coming to pick a fight, I kill them, get a safe distance and send them a text saying simply "I have no interest in fighting you." Majority of the time that person will give up chasing you. You'd be surprised what a little communication will do. But then again, I'm not like most people. I actually don't see real merit in fighting anyone in free mode, as it literally does nothing but pad your K/D stat...which is meaningless in GTAO because cash and RP are the true mark of "success". Using the word coward may have been a bit harsh, but sometimes being the better man is walking away when you know there's nothing to gain from fighting someone who can't fight you back on the same level.

 

I agree with you on a few things. 

K/D is really not that important. Never understood the big fascination with it. And you're right about it getting boring after a few kills.

But some people are stupid and suckers for punishment and just don't learn. They'll just keep coming after you.

I probably could walk away but since they provoked me, nothing will get the message across to them like a shotgun to face lol


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer

A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game, using aspects of the game in unintended ways.

 

And that's exactly why tank users cannot be defined as griefers as it's intented to kill other players with a tank. And just for the record, I only use a tank when someone else does, because it get's boring fast.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 05:30 PM

I got reported for griefing the other day by a lower level player. It started when he pulled up close to me in his car. Thinking he was friendly since he didn't shoot initially, I started to walk over towards him, then he got out of the car and shot me. Obviously angry I chased him down and shot him. Then later when I saw him get a HPV I killed him, took it and put an ignition bomb on it then drove it almost to the docks and left it and got up onto the bridge. He found it, got blown up, then re-spawned and I sniped him once. That's when he reported me. If he didn't want to be killed, he shouldn't have shot me first when I obviously wasn't trying to shoot him, although I could've easily right when he pulled up on me in the first place.

Do you think what I did was really greifing?

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:07 PM Edited by hercules1975, 21 April 2014 - 06:09 PM.

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There is no list of acts that qualify as being classed as 'fun ruining' but I am sure we could make one (using the previous comments):
 
* Blowing up personal vehicles
* Camping outside player's garages/apartments
* Using a tank to kill players
* Harrasing other players
* Irritating other players
* Repeated killing/spawn killing
* Using vehicles with bulletproofed rear to kill players
* Targeting lower-level players

 

These are from what others have posted already on this thread, it's a compilation of ideas.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:16 PM Edited by Darth_Rob, 21 April 2014 - 06:17 PM.

Most of what people call "griefing" is just general, run-of-the-mill douchebaggery.

 

Tank rampages, for instance.  As much as I hate tanks and the douchebags inside them, I wouldn't qualify what they do as "griefing."  Tanks are supposed to roll around and blow crap up.  Blame R* for putting them in the game.

 

When the same tank exploits a glitch that allows it to poke it's barrel into my garage and blow up all my cars, THAT is griefing.

 

Repeatedly killing people isn't griefing. either. If you do it in God Mode, then it is.

 

So I guess my definition of "griefing" would be deriving pleasure out of ruining the game for others, especially if it violates the rules of the game (i.e. glitching, hacking, etc.).

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:25 PM

Most of what people call "griefing" is just general, run-of-the-mill douchebaggery.

 

Tank rampages, for instance.  As much as I hate tanks and the douchebags inside them, I wouldn't qualify what they do as "griefing."  Tanks are supposed to roll around and blow crap up.  Blame R* for putting them in the game.

 

When the same tank exploits a glitch that allows it to poke it's barrel into my garage and blow up all my cars, THAT is griefing.

 

Repeatedly killing people isn't griefing. either. If you do it in God Mode, then it is.

 

So I guess my definition of "griefing" would be deriving pleasure out of ruining the game for others, especially if it violates the rules of the game (i.e. glitching, hacking, etc.).

I completely agree.

 

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:44 PM

Personally if I say I'm going to grief some people, what I mean is I'm going to get my jet and harass them to the point where they cant even move without dying, they have to hide in some obscure corner for hours until I stop bothering with them, or I force them out of the lobby.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:04 PM Edited by MrKush, 21 April 2014 - 07:11 PM.

I got reported for griefing the other day by a lower level player. It started when he pulled up close to me in his car. Thinking he wias friendly since he didn't shoot initially, I started to walk over towards him, then he got out of the car and shot me. Obviously angry I chased him down and shot him. Then later when I saw him get a HPV I killed him, took it and put an ignition bomb on it then drove it almost to the docks and left it and got up onto the bridge. He found it, got blown up, then re-spawned and I sniped him once. That's when he reported me. If he didn't want to be killed, he shouldn't have shot me first when I obviously wasn't trying to shoot him, although I could've easily right when he pulled up on me in the first place.

Do you think what I did was really greifing?



Obviously not. Its Grand theft auto. The other day I got double teamed. They started it entirely. I proceed to get a 4-0 & a 5-2 k/d edge on these guys. AFTER that I call up my tank & raped these butt buddies who ( according to the piss poor definitions of 'griefing' from the b*itches in this thread) WANTED TO 'GRIEF' ME. That didn't work out for them. So who is the griefer in that scenario ?

What's funny is that the guy who killed me twice, did it consecutively. After each kill he said "that's right Bitch" ... but when I killed him this f*ucker, he would moan. When I got my tank this nigga started f*cking BITCHING & Crying to no end. He was rank 175 to my 181.

That guy is probably what most of you are like. Because honestly, are all of you saying that in freeroam you're constantly getting randomly chashed, killed & spawn killed by griefers?? Its ALL Random? You're ALWAYSSSS minding your own business when some pr*ck, seemingly out of nowhere, wants to just ruin your fun? Yeah....sorry I call f*cking bullsh*t. Amazing how that doesn't happen to me. & I'm entirely NOT the type to get into a shootout for fun. If I encounter a toxic player, I deal with it. Because its GTA, its dog eat dog, its the nature of the game. Others, they get owned, cry about it, and threads like these are made.

Griefing is what people cry when they get their ass handed to them, & they probably asked for it. All of these people here acting like they're completely innocent. That's the f*ckin joke

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:45 PM Edited by hercules1975, 21 April 2014 - 08:09 PM.

 

Griefing is what people cry when they get their ass handed to them, & they probably asked for it. All of these people here acting like they're completely innocent. That's the f*ckin joke

 

 

Well that is your opinion, which you are entitled to obviously - and I can agree with half of what you are saying.

 

Players who consider 'griefing' to be when they are getting 'owned' when they DID start it (i.e. losing out in a PvP free-roam D.M.).

 

This is NOT griefing, it is called 'losing' :0)

 

Players who consider 'griefing' to be when they 'get their ass handed to them ' when they did NOT start it is another matter.

 

I.E. someone minding their own business in free-roam, gets attacked by some 'random' who continues to kill them, regardless of their reaction to the attack.

 

The player may try to flee, go into passive-mode, etc. (a.k.a. being a 'pussy') - basically the player does not want to engage in a fight with the player who is attacking them without any provocation (apart from being in the same open lobby).


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:48 PM

People that just pisses people off for fun. They mostly play in Auto aim lobbies because of their lack of skill.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:48 PM

 

 

 

Maybe I could expand the definitions, they are just bullet points at the moment.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:49 PM

It takes this many comments for a definition of a word? god damn


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:50 PM Edited by hercules1975, 21 April 2014 - 07:51 PM.

People that just pisses people off for fun. They mostly play in Auto aim lobbies because of their lack of skill.

 

Well, that isn't strictly true - in my experience of playing GTA Online, since it was released...

 

I have encountered 1 player who I consider to have griefed me in Auto-Aim lobbies, and 1 in a Free-Aim lobby.

 

I have only been in a Free-Aim lobby once :0)


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:52 PM

 

People that just pisses people off for fun. They mostly play in Auto aim lobbies because of their lack of skill.

 

Well, that isn't strictly true - in my experience I have encountered 1 player who I consider to have griefed me in Auto-Aim lobbies, and 1 in a Free-Aim lobby.

 

I have only been in a Free-Aim lobby once :0)

 

Yeah but they don't grief very long because they suck at the game. I kick their asses and then I leave them alone and he goes to someone else. In auto aim it's harder to get rid of them.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:57 PM Edited by hercules1975, 21 April 2014 - 07:57 PM.

It takes this many comments for a definition of a word? god damn

 

Technically it isn't even a word, which is why it gets those red squiggly lines under it whenever you type it ;0)


 

Yeah but they don't grief very long because they suck at the game. I kick their asses and then I leave them alone and he goes to someone else. In auto aim it's harder to get rid of them.

 

 

 

That is very gallant of you sir, well done - glad to hear you aren't a griefer, and have some good 'manners' when playing this video game.

 

It is a shame that other players 'griefers' choose not to take a leaf out of our books and not go around trying to spoil other players enjoyment of the game, even if they are being arseholes (well maybe it is ok to do it for a few minutes anyway).

 

*arseholes isn't a word either, apparently :0)


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:59 PM

 

I got reported for griefing the other day by a lower level player. It started when he pulled up close to me in his car. Thinking he wias friendly since he didn't shoot initially, I started to walk over towards him, then he got out of the car and shot me. Obviously angry I chased him down and shot him. Then later when I saw him get a HPV I killed him, took it and put an ignition bomb on it then drove it almost to the docks and left it and got up onto the bridge. He found it, got blown up, then re-spawned and I sniped him once. That's when he reported me. If he didn't want to be killed, he shouldn't have shot me first when I obviously wasn't trying to shoot him, although I could've easily right when he pulled up on me in the first place.

Do you think what I did was really greifing?



Obviously not. Its Grand theft auto. The other day I got double teamed. They started it entirely. I proceed to get a 4-0 & a 5-2 k/d edge on these guys. AFTER that I call up my tank & raped these butt buddies who ( according to the piss poor definitions of 'griefing' from the b*itches in this thread) WANTED TO 'GRIEF' ME. That didn't work out for them. So who is the griefer in that scenario ?

What's funny is that the guy who killed me twice, did it consecutively. After each kill he said "that's right Bitch" ... but when I killed him this f*ucker, he would moan. When I got my tank this nigga started f*cking BITCHING & Crying to no end. He was rank 175 to my 181.

That guy is probably what most of you are like. Because honestly, are all of you saying that in freeroam you're constantly getting randomly chashed, killed & spawn killed by griefers?? Its ALL Random? You're ALWAYSSSS minding your own business when some pr*ck, seemingly out of nowhere, wants to just ruin your fun? Yeah....sorry I call f*cking bullsh*t. Amazing how that doesn't happen to me. & I'm entirely NOT the type to get into a shootout for fun. If I encounter a toxic player, I deal with it. Because its GTA, its dog eat dog, its the nature of the game. Others, they get owned, cry about it, and threads like these are made.

Griefing is what people cry when they get their ass handed to them, & they probably asked for it. All of these people here acting like they're completely innocent. That's the f*ckin joke

 

There always seems to be one asshole in every session that decides to come over to where I'm at and start shooting.  Recently I went over to pick up a buzzard and a level 5 was hanging out across the road - I thought - nah...  He's hanging out - probably scared and been ran over and shot multiple times already - besides he doesn't even have a sniper rifle.  So I get out of my car and get into the buzzard and he's right on me shooting - I jump in and take off before he can kill me since he had the drop on me since I didn't even pay attention to him.  Anyway I didn't really feel like crushing a level 5 so I left the area - he sent me a message - "come back pussy and fight."  So I killed him a few times - he kept on sending me messages calling me a pussy and that he would stomp my ass next time - etc - I just finally blocked communication with him - I don't have time to deal with idiots.  So - yes, there are players - many players at all levels - that love to pull sh*t.  Just go to the shirt shop or ammo place and hang out a few minutes - they'll find you!


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:05 PM Edited by hercules1975, 21 April 2014 - 08:15 PM.

Updated:
 
There is no list of acts that qualify as being classed as 'fun ruining' but I am sure we could make one (using the previous comments):
 
* Blowing up personal vehicles with a tank and no money to pay for insurance
* Camping outside player's garages/apartments/L.S.C. in order to kill occupants defenceless upon exiting
* Using a tank to kill players without any provocation, especially passive-mode 'pussies', people in shops/barbers/tattooists
* Harassing other players by chasing them constantly to kill them without just cause
* Irritating other players by performing 'general douchbaggery'
* Repeated killing/spawn killing other players who have indicated they have thrown the towel in/waved the white flag/surrendered/etc.
* Using cars with bulletproof rear windows to kill players in a non-retaliatory fashion (i.e. going around doing this to everyone or no reason)
* Targeting lower-level players to boost KDR/self esteem by achieving easy kills against players with inferior health/weapons/etc.
 
These are from what others have posted already on this thread, it's a compilation of ideas that can be added it if anything has been missed.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:48 PM Edited by Darth_Rob, 21 April 2014 - 08:49 PM.

 You need to add "Driving a chrome car anywhere within the range of my vision."
 


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:04 PM

 You need to add "Driving a chrome car anywhere within the range of my vision."
 

that....actually offends me too. ill call that griefing for the fun of it :>


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:05 PM

Griefer: Someone better than me at being a prick.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:26 PM

Someone who kills you over and over using an unfair advantage eg tank or a much higher level,like a lv200 killing a lv20.Or repeatedly killing someone who doesn't want to fight.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:48 PM

Someone who kills you over and over using an unfair advantage eg tank or a much higher level,like a lv200 killing a lv20.Or repeatedly killing someone who doesn't want to fight.

thats not griefing.

 

thats bullying.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:49 PM


Someone who kills you over and over using an unfair advantage eg tank or a much higher level,like a lv200 killing a lv20.Or repeatedly killing someone who doesn't want to fight.

thats not griefing.
 
thats bullying.
Griefing can be a form of bullying.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:21 PM

 

 

Someone who kills you over and over using an unfair advantage eg tank or a much higher level,like a lv200 killing a lv20.Or repeatedly killing someone who doesn't want to fight.

thats not griefing.
 
thats bullying.
Griefing can be a form of bullying.

 

i didnt read all of what you said.

 

but no. killing a low level for sh*ts and giggles with nothign to gain, not even to get weapon skins ( because i do it too and i have those i need to unlock...and deathmatches are meh) as far as im concerned, is hazing. 

 

the ones who just ignore you when you repeatedly go TO them and kill them is like you throwing a beachball at the back of someones head telling them without words that you want to play. in both cases, eventually they will get bored and go away.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:38 PM

griefer  though be defined"as one who would swoop on down and kill  noob/civillian whils't weilding the rhino/lazor"

griefer "one though would glitch inside walls whilst setting bountys on crewmate's who hide also inside said walls"

griefer "level +400 player's with zero skills"

griefer "garage trolls who blast the unwary with no warning and then split when owned"

god mode,monkey men they are abominaations i tell ya!!!!


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:51 PM

griefer  though be defined"as one who would swoop on down and kill  noob/civillian whils't weilding the rhino/lazor"

griefer "one though would glitch inside walls whilst setting bountys on crewmate's who hide also inside said walls"

griefer "level +400 player's with zero skills"

griefer "garage trolls who blast the unwary with no warning and then split when owned"

god mode,monkey men they are abominaations i tell ya!!!!

 

rhinos and lazers are there to kill.period. so no.

wall glitchers are exploiters and with them you report and leave. so no.

so... a level 400 who cant kill me worth sh*t without his tank is a griefer?

garage trolls are in fact griefers. not trolls.

and the last one was just an unfunny joke.

 

makes no sense.





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