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Poll: Graphics vs Immersion (100 member(s) have cast votes)

Which do you prefer in a game, Graphics, or Immersion?

  1. Graphics (3 votes [3.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.00%

  2. Immersion (38 votes [38.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.00%

  3. A mix of both (59 votes [59.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.00%

Do you think that people get overly focused on graphics, and forget about immersion/gameplay?

  1. Yes, they seem to think that graphics is what makes a game good. (83 votes [83.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 83.00%

  2. No, good graphics show the true power of current gaming technology. (17 votes [17.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.00%

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:12 AM

Now, I saw some videos of graphics mods for GTA 4, but there is just something off in them.  I think that graphics aren't what makes games look better.  I think Immersion is what makes games look better.  I think that people are playing GTA Online way too fast paced, and they need to just slow down and look for the tiny details within the game.  Good graphics mean nothing if you still feel like you are playing a game.

 

 I remember back in SA days where I would just drive slowly to a basketball court in the ballas territory, and would shoot some hoops, then get in a fight with the ballas.  Now THAT was immersion.  To make GTA Online more exciting, you need to stop playing like an arcade game, and start playing like you are really there.  Anyone else think that Immersion makes the game look better because you can notice the little details?

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:16 AM Edited by ARCTICvnc, 20 April 2014 - 06:21 AM.

Now, I saw some videos of graphics mods for GTA 4, but there is just something off in them.  I think that graphics aren't what makes games look better.  I think Immersion is what makes games look better.  I think that people are playing GTA Online way too fast paced, and they need to just slow down and look for the tiny details within the game.  Good graphics mean nothing if you still feel like you are playing a game.

 

 I remember back in SA days where I would just drive slowly to a basketball court in the ballas territory, and would shoot some hoops, then get in a fight with the ballas.  Now THAT was immersion.  To make GTA Online more exciting, you need to stop playing like an arcade game, and start playing like you are really there.  Anyone else think that Immersion makes the game look better because you can notice the little details?

The realism of great graphics is what is supposed to provide the immersion, but relatability and plot are also very important.

 

I think having one well developed character like CJ is better than three less developed ones. It is hard to utilize a big map with just one character though, along with the heist aspect.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:18 AM

Immersion by far.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:22 AM

 

Now, I saw some videos of graphics mods for GTA 4, but there is just something off in them.  I think that graphics aren't what makes games look better.  I think Immersion is what makes games look better.  I think that people are playing GTA Online way too fast paced, and they need to just slow down and look for the tiny details within the game.  Good graphics mean nothing if you still feel like you are playing a game.

 

 I remember back in SA days where I would just drive slowly to a basketball court in the ballas territory, and would shoot some hoops, then get in a fight with the ballas.  Now THAT was immersion.  To make GTA Online more exciting, you need to stop playing like an arcade game, and start playing like you are really there.  Anyone else think that Immersion makes the game look better because you can notice the little details?

The realism of great graphics is what is supposed to provide the immersion, but relatability and plot are also very important.

 

I agree, although, the point I'm making is that people really make the game too fast paced that you can't really enjoy the immersion that the graphics brings.  Like in Mafia 2, I wouldn't say the graphics are better than GTA 5, but the game was a lot slower paced, so you could notice the details.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:31 AM Edited by Gta-freak-VI, 20 April 2014 - 06:33 AM.

I could care less about how a game looks like as long as the gameplay's good. Yesterday I tried playing TBOGT for the first time since like 2012 and it felt so outdated cause I was spoiled by the superb graphics of GTA V(which is pretty damn good for almost a decade old consoles) but after getting into FM, I realised how the gameplay and mechanics were so fun. It brought that nostalgia of airport madness and the almighty, OP buzzard although the server had a modder who spawned strippers and modded cars with neon lights(a very friendly modder/hacker I should say, if only I could take selfies in IV)

Ignore my nonsense above but to me, immersion is better than graphics.
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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:34 AM

Immersion wins. Flawless victory.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:52 AM

Immersion wins. Flawless victory.

 

Of course it does. You can't play graphics, you play gameplay which causes immersion. Graphics are cool and all, but if you game plays like sh*t, it's worthless.
 


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:54 AM

Immersion. Despite V being graphically superior in every conceivable way (as it should be), I get way more immersed when playing IV.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 07:32 AM

It depends. GTA V has good graphics but many like older games, feeling more immersed in it. I feel they are reliving those days of playing those games, feeling nostalgic of those games not noticing how bad they look compared to newer games, bugs, glitches etc. 


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:09 PM

It depends. GTA V has good graphics but many like older games, feeling more immersed in it. I feel they are reliving those days of playing those games, feeling nostalgic of those games not noticing how bad they look compared to newer games, bugs, glitches etc. 

Yeah, I still think that I was most immersed in SA though.  I remember the good old times where I painted a clover orange and did jumps in the countryside.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:13 PM

The problem with this:

Oh hey. I never noticed that was there. Oh well, time to go along on my BMX. That railing looks fun to hop over! Let's go over to it. Wow, that was fun! where to ne- BOOM. xxBEASTSNIPES69xxzz decimated you. Oh man! Maybe I should just explore on foot with passive mode. This should sure- SPLAT. xxSICK X B34STxx splattered you.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:15 PM

I'm on the fence, I've been gaming pretty much my whole life.

Good graphics make a good game even better, but good graphics don't necessarily mean a good game, and bad graphics don't mean a bad game.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:16 PM Edited by Winning001, 20 April 2014 - 04:17 PM.

The graphics are not that better than IV when you actually look at the models closely.
I'm more immersion than graphics. What's the point if your game just looks nice
Edit: f*ck auto correct

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:16 PM

I hate to be that guy but when it comes to single player games bad graphics are immersion breaking. A mix of both.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:19 PM

I couldn't care less about graphics, the game could have amazing graphics and be awful.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:20 PM

I honestly would choose Immersion over Graphics. But sometimes, Graphics make the Immersion even better so I have to choose both. 


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:20 PM

The graphics are not that better than IV when you actually look at the models closely.
I'm more immersion than graphics. What's the point if your game just looks nice
Edit: f*ck auto correct

I agree, the graphics on GTA V are not the best (to be honest, they are pretty bad for a late 360/PS3 game), but it's still a great game.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:23 PM

The problem with this:

Oh hey. I never noticed that was there. Oh well, time to go along on my BMX. That railing looks fun to hop over! Let's go over to it. Wow, that was fun! where to ne- BOOM. xxBEASTSNIPES69xxzz decimated you. Oh man! Maybe I should just explore on foot with passive mode. This should sure- SPLAT. xxSICK X B34STxx splattered you.

And those are the guys who can't experience the game fully.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

If they'd used GTA IV graphics on V, how much bigger could they have made the map? Does it work like that? If they could make the map 4 times larger with San Andreas graphics I'd be all for that. One of the best games I've ever played is an old PS2 game called 'Road Trip Adventure.' It took about an hour to drive from one side of the map to the other, with themic towns, a snowy mountain, woodland, desert, a huge river, pyramids, it was huge and immensely enjoyable. Graphics were very cartoonistic but that was okay because it was totally enjoyable and immersive. I've always been a fan of games with massive open worlds like San Andreas, Skyrim, Road Trip Adventure, Final Fantasy X (in some ways), games where you could potentially get 'lost'.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:49 PM

If they'd used GTA IV graphics on V, how much bigger could they have made the map? Does it work like that? If they could make the map 4 times larger with San Andreas graphics I'd be all for that. One of the best games I've ever played is an old PS2 game called 'Road Trip Adventure.' It took about an hour to drive from one side of the map to the other, with themic towns, a snowy mountain, woodland, desert, a huge river, pyramids, it was huge and immensely enjoyable. Graphics were very cartoonistic but that was okay because it was totally enjoyable and immersive. I've always been a fan of games with massive open worlds like San Andreas, Skyrim, Road Trip Adventure, Final Fantasy X (in some ways), games where you could potentially get 'lost'.

There is this game called fuel, it has the biggest video game world ever.  5000 sq miles.  It's about the size of Connecticut.  And even that had pretty good graphics.  Now imagine a game like GTA SA with a huge map,  It could be as big as Massachusetts.  Would you rather have the graphics of 5 with a way smaller map, or have the graphics of GTA SA with a giant map, 1000 people in one lobby?


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:31 PM Edited by tdavies457, 20 April 2014 - 06:34 PM.


The graphics are not that better than IV when you actually look at the models closely.
I'm more immersion than graphics. What's the point if your game just looks nice
Edit: f*ck auto correct

I agree, the graphics on GTA V are not the best (to be honest, they are pretty bad for a late 360/PS3 game), but it's still a great game.

lol "pretty bad"...really?? compared to what? people bitch about the graphics in this game but they never name which other PS3/360 games they're thinking of that look better, for an open-world game of this scale the graphics are about as good as they possibly could be.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

I don't give a flying f*ck about graphics.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:07 PM

A huge part of immersion IS great graphics.

If you want to feel like you are in the game, then it should look as real as possible.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:16 PM

There's a reason San Andreas is still more enjoyable than V.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:19 PM

There's a reason San Andreas is still more enjoyable than V.

Because of those long roadtrips to other cities, Hunting bigfoot, gambling in Las Vegas, street racing with NOS!  SA had the most freedom.


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:27 PM

Definitely the immersion, we know GTAV has wicked graphics but half the time lots of things go unnoticed. For example I spawned on the beach a couple of days ago, my car was impounded. I was about to steal a car to drive to the impound but for some reason decided I would just head over there on foot.

It was a full lobby so occasionally I would hide in a back street or behind a fence when I saw a blip nearby, I found myself heading down parts of the map I'd never properly seen before, the detail that's gone into this game is fantastic. So my point really is the graphics are there but because I've been immersed in the game it's never really noticed with my full attention. So I voted a bit of both. :)


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:33 PM

Graphics contribute to immersion though. In scary games lighting contributes to the immersion. 


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:39 AM

Graphics contribute to immersion though. In scary games lighting contributes to the immersion. 

In my opinion, graphics have to be good enough to imagine what you are seeing in the game.

 

EX: In SA you played in this

Idlewood2-GTASA.jpg

 

But what I saw was this

LosAngeles.jpg

 

As long as you can imagine what it's like, graphics aren't a big deal.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:42 AM

So what? Just play the game the way you want, weirdo.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:44 AM

So what? Just play the game the way you want, weirdo.

The f*ck?  You drunk or something?





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