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Posted 16 April 2014 - 02:16 AM Edited by ARCTICvnc, 16 April 2014 - 02:17 AM.

What currently new to moderately new cars will be future classics or collectibles. 

Excluding supercars etc...

 

Cars that aren't crazily special when they come out to the market.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:19 AM

Alfa Romeo GTV
Audi S2
Audi B5 RS4
BMW E34 M5 3.8
BMW E21 323i
BMW 840Ci
Mazda MX-5 Mk1
Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
SEAT Leon Cupra R
Toyota MR2 Mk2
VW Corrado
VW Golf R32 (Mk4)

That's my "watch out for" list.
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:03 PM

Haha, the Alfa Romeo GTV can only appreciate because they have pretty much bottomed out at the minimum price of a roadworthy car.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:37 AM

Pontiac Solstice, Ford Mustangs, Subaru BRZ/FR-S, maybe Chargers and probably the F-150.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:01 PM

Audi S3

BMW M3 E36

BMW M5 E39

Volkswagen Corrado VR6

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:19 PM

No S3 is ever going to be a classic unfortunately. The Mk1 is a parts bin special and the Mk2 is simply too common.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 07:19 PM

I could actually see the Audi R8 becoming a sleeper classic. Despite being fairly common they kind of have a uniqueness to me that sets them apart from other sports cars that will keep them relevant and sought after by collectors in the future.

 

The Large engined M series BMWs will also be collectible classics in a few years as well as engines continue to get smaller but people still want the big V8 cars instead of a smaller turbo charged car. 

 

And of course any Pontiac because they got axed a few years ago despite being a beloved make with a cult following. 


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:32 PM

Pretty much any 2 seater sports car (MX5's, S2K's, MR2's, Vettes, maybe even CRX's). 
Any AMG Merc or M BMW.
Probably any iconic "hot" version of any average, joe-blow car. (the various SI and type R Hondas, the various Mazdaspeeds, VW GTI's, etc). 
SVT-badged US Fords. 

SRT-badged Chrysler products. 
R-badged Jags
Cosworth-badged Euro Fords. 

WRX/STI's and EVO's. 
Nissan S-chassis

But all of those are kind of a given. But of cars that aren't a given, I'd say Hyndai Genesis Coupe and the Infiniti G35/37/whatever it's called elsewhere. They could be very desirable in 25 years. 

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 01:24 AM Edited by Input, 18 April 2014 - 01:25 AM.

I think history will kind of repeat itself with the current Dodge Challengers, this day in age we all want '70 R/T's with 426 Hemi's or 440 Six Packs. I think by like 2070-80, the '08 to '14 will be among the must have "classic cars". 

Weird to think of current day cars becoming collector items in the future.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 06:06 AM

I think history will kind of repeat itself with the current Dodge Challengers, this day in age we all want '70 R/T's with 426 Hemi's or 440 Six Packs. I think by like 2070-80, the '08 to '14 will be among the must have "classic cars". 

Weird to think of current day cars becoming collector items in the future.

I hope not. The Dodge Challenger has got to be the most overrated muscle car in existence- it looks like an anachronism from the 80s. If you look at one without the stripes you can see that it's a box with windows and mirrors. It gets the same (or worse) power than the mustang with worse gas mileage. If there's any cars I hope disappear in the future, the challenger is absolutely one of them.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 11:46 AM

With all the electronics and computers in modern cars, I wonder if it will just become to expensive or complicated to maintain them when they get to a certain age?

Like cars from the 70's are just basic. Many enthusiasts can do it themselves. For those who can't there is always someone who will do it for a reasonable price.

Thinking of how every single thing in a modern car is electronic, it will be stupidly expensive to rebuild a car that is this complicated.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:00 PM

I still tell myself that the SAAB 900 will become a proper classic


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:02 PM

 

I think history will kind of repeat itself with the current Dodge Challengers, this day in age we all want '70 R/T's with 426 Hemi's or 440 Six Packs. I think by like 2070-80, the '08 to '14 will be among the must have "classic cars". 

Weird to think of current day cars becoming collector items in the future.

I hope not. The Dodge Challenger has got to be the most overrated muscle car in existence- it looks like an anachronism from the 80s. If you look at one without the stripes you can see that it's a box with windows and mirrors. It gets the same (or worse) power than the mustang with worse gas mileage. If there's any cars I hope disappear in the future, the challenger is absolutely one of them.

 

No way man, the mustang is the most overrated POS known to god.

But the thing I like about the Challenger is the bulky tank that it is, I mean I don't know how well it holds up in a wreck but I'm confident it would survive better than a Honda at least.

I don't know, everyone has there ideal type of car. I prefer muscle and even though "modern muscle" isn't exactly true to the name it still has its charm.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:25 AM

Surely this Alfa will become highly sought after?

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:40 PM

I honestly don't see very many of today's cars becoming collectable in the future. Except for supers and muscle cars, everything else would probably not be worth the time and effort to restore.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:58 PM Edited by Blastoise1994, 23 April 2014 - 12:18 AM.

Without having read any of the other posts to keep a clean opinion of sorts, here's what I'm thinking. Now, as a general rule, I'm only using vehicles from the past decade. 

 

Audi TT Quattro

BMW M3

BMW M5

BMW Z3 M Roadster

Cadillac Escalade EXT

Chrysler 300C HEMI

Chrysler Crossfire

Dodge Charger SRT-8

Dodge Neon SRT-4

Dodge RAM HEMI

Fiat 500 Abarth

Ford F-150 SVT Lightning

Ford Focus SVT

Ford Mustang Cobra R

Honda Civic Type-R

Honda S2000

Mazda MX-5 "Miata" Roadster

Mercedes-Benz SLK230

Mini Cooper S

Pontiac G8 GXP

Pontiac Solstice

Pontiac Sunfire GT

Porsche Boxster

Scion tC

Scion xA

Scion xB

Toyota Celica

Toyota MR-Spyder

Volkswagen Golf R32

Volkswagen New Beetle Turbo S

Volkswagen Phaeton W12


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:17 AM

I honestly don't see very many of today's cars becoming collectable in the future. Except for supers and muscle cars, everything else would probably not be worth the time and effort to restore.

I'm guessing the same was said way back in the 50s, 60s and 70s. 


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 05:44 AM

 

I honestly don't see very many of today's cars becoming collectable in the future. Except for supers and muscle cars, everything else would probably not be worth the time and effort to restore.

I'm guessing the same was said way back in the 50s, 60s and 70s. 

 

Probably, but who knows what the future holds for today's cars.


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Posted 26 April 2014 - 10:47 AM

Blastoise raises some interesting ideas.

I strongly agree the G8 will be a classic, I know that's it's basically a rebadged Holden, but it was the last impressive car Pontiac had before the brand died completely.

The Escalade (and other luxury SUVs like Navigator, QX56) being a classic is an interesting concept, I suppose people in the future will look at it how we look at American cars from the '60s: huge symbols of wealth and status with questionable refinement, the perfect nostalgia-mobile.
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Posted 26 April 2014 - 11:54 AM

The reason cars from the 30s/40s and 50s are considered classic are because the body styling was so radical compared to what we have now. Now we have the fundamental mechanic that determines a cars styling, aerodynamics. Therefore the only thing that will change with cars in the future is propulsion and how they stop. This is until cars can either hover or fly. Modern cars just can't be considered 'classic' in the same light.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 02:28 PM

BMW 840Ci
 

Any particular reason you fancy more the M60/M62? 840s were less common than 850s, right?


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

The 850Ci/CSi are rarer but the Ci is a bit rubbish and the CSi is silly money. The 840Ci Sport is the best to drive by all accounts and probably more desirable.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:36 PM

There was an 850i sold not so long ago for 3500 euros where I live.
Had my eye on it but couldn't get insurance on it.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:30 PM Edited by Lurch, 30 April 2014 - 05:30 PM.

The 850Ci/CSi are rarer but the Ci is a bit rubbish and the CSi is silly money. The 840Ci Sport is the best to drive by all accounts and probably more desirable.

 

The 850Ci/CSi are rarer but the Ci is a bit rubbish and the CSi is silly money. The 840Ci Sport is the best to drive by all accounts and probably more desirable.

The M70/M73's are rubbish. Still, they'll be worth more than the V8 cars, especially in 6 speed guise. 


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:30 PM

I see the argument has already started...

 

the new Dodge Challengers will be future classics.

like it or not.

 

they've got all the hallmarks, and GM is about to unveil the SRT Hellcat; MOPAR supercharged from the factory.

they're still offering limited edition trim packages and all the classic muscle colors like Plum Crazy Purple and Lime Green.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

 

The 850Ci/CSi are rarer but the Ci is a bit rubbish and the CSi is silly money. The 840Ci Sport is the best to drive by all accounts and probably more desirable.

 

The 850Ci/CSi are rarer but the Ci is a bit rubbish and the CSi is silly money. The 840Ci Sport is the best to drive by all accounts and probably more desirable.

The M70/M73's are rubbish. Still, they'll be worth more than the V8 cars, especially in 6 speed guise. 

 

Only in 6-speed guise.
The 840 came with the MT6 only associated to the M60 amarite?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:27 PM Edited by Blastoise1994, 10 May 2014 - 09:42 PM.

Bumping a week old topic, whoo!

I've been thinking about this lately, and I'd like to add a few to my list. I might just redo it from the ground up and do "categories" or something but I'd like to add...

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1993-2002 Pontiac Firebird (And the twin Camaro)

- Yes, every last one from beginning to end. Why? It's the last in a long line of legendary vehicles, looks great (IMO at least) and they're so cheap right now that I've known more than a few people who got one as their first car, sure to inspire feelings of nostalgia. With most Firebirds being kitted up by 20 year old wannabe street racers, clean examples are getting more and more rare. In my opinion, an all black late model Trans-Am with T-Tops and those nice five spokes they had on performance GMs of that era would be the best look for one of these.. To complete the experience, throw on a hoodie, pop in that Sugar Ray CD and run to Taco Bell for a burrito and some Mountain Dew. Maybe when you get home you can play some Playstation 1 and watch Austin Powers? :p

- Honorable mentions: 2010-2014 Camaro Firebird conversions (Super rare, good looks), 1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS, (Underappreciated performance GM), 1994-2004 Chevrolet S10 (Many of my friends own or have owned one, easy to modify)

 

1998-2004 Volkswagen New Beetle

- Okay, I admit I'm a little biased, I ADORE the New Beetle, my list already included the limited production 2002-2004 New Beetle Turbo S, but in my opinion the NB has a bright future ahead of it on the more inexpensive classic car range, especially the models early enough to retain the "pod" mirrors (1998-2000), the convertibles (2003-2004) and the "Color Concept" New Beetles, which featured brightly colored paintwork with accent-matching rims and seats. Does anybody here (Born before 1999, of course) remember late 90s Beetlemania? I sure do, the ads, the toys, the everything, the New Beetle was a phenomenon and it brought VW back into the public eye. (Let's be honest, the mid 90s range was kind of vanilla, overlooking the Corrado and maybe the VR6 GTI) As much hate as it gets for being a "chick car" or "untrue to its roots", the New Beetle has left a impression on my generation and I personally believe that impression will keep it in the hearts, minds, and garages of many for years to come. Oh, and really tall people like me can drive it thanks to the bubble shape. Bonus! Just for reference, I don't hate the 2005-2010 redesign New Beetle, but I believe, thanks to the honestly less unique styling and the Mk5 Jetta's 5-cyl replacing the basic 8V 2.0 and the excellent 1.8T, people will look to it in a similar light to how the Super Beetle is looked on today. 
- Honorable mentions: 2000-2010 Chrysler PT Cruiser (I remember when it was called the "Pronto"...  :p), 2005-2011 Chevrolet HHR (Especially supercharged and panelvan variants)

 

2001-2005 Pontiac Aztek

- What? Another Pontiac!? Isn't that cheating? Nope! Not in my opinion, anyways. While the dead brand thing does bring the Aztek a little more love, I'm thinking it will be enjoyed much in the way vintage microcars are, it's pretty ugly (I'd call it a "butterface" car, the body isn't so bad but the front? Bleh! XD) but it's good at what it does, and it definitely leaves an impression, to this day whenever "ugly" cars are mentioned most people jump right to the Aztek. 
- Honorable mentions: 1995-2005 Chevrolet Astro

Cars I'd like to mention but don't feel like doing a write-up on: 1998-2002 Saab 9-3, 1984-1988 Pontiac Fiero, 1992-1998 Honda CR-X Del-Sol, 1998-2012 Ford Crown Victoria/Lincoln Town Car/Mercury Grand Marquis/Mercury Marauder, 2003-2009 Toyota Prius, 2002-2005 Ford Thunderbird
 


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Posted 13 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

You better grab E30 M3s while they are 15k-20k. I'd imagine that any M3 coupe / convertible will shoot through the roof now that present M3s are sedans. One sold for 19k last year here in st. Louis. First time i seen one in the flesh and it's truly a sight behold.

Z8 have always been increasing as well.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:30 PM

You want to look at E30 Sport Evolution values. £80k for a minter.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:14 PM

You better grab E30 M3s while they are 15k-20k. I'd imagine that any M3 coupe / convertible will shoot through the roof now that present M3s are sedans. One sold for 19k last year here in st. Louis. First time i seen one in the flesh and it's truly a sight behold.

Z8 have always been increasing as well.

E30 M3's under $20k ended a long time ago. Unless it's a salvage title or a dog (200k+ miles), it's not happening. Average values are already around the $23-28k mark. $30k+ isn't unheard of at the moment. 





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