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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:05 PM

i think it is a bunch of c r a p that R* was pressured into releasing GTAO w/out animals because people are to sensitive and moral that they would take out hunting animals (like people do in real life) when the game GTA itself is all about massacring people endlessly (very unreal) but god forbid if we are able to hunt down animals and take some aggression out on a couple of deer, wolves, or chickens they call that animal abuse but killing hundreds of people is ok and not psychotic?

 

whoever pleaded there case said, "that rockstar is all about money and has no ethics" 

are you serious you bought a game that let's you kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people but, killing animals online is an uncomfortable problem for them and they are worried about ethics and morals?!

 

if you dont like killing animals by blowing there brains out of there skull with a high powered rifle bullet then don't play a game where they let you do that DUH!!!

 

btw RDR had all kinds of animal killing offline and online and so what if that's the wild west we hunt animals today with or without tags/perrmits in real life why cant we in a game that is FAKE!!!!???

 

i think that it would be a nice distraction from the gun fights and car chases to go hunting with friends but we can't

 

Go after Cabela and all the other hunting games rather than R*'s GTA series possy fart animal rights lovers

 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:07 PM Edited by Black Rabbit, 04 April 2014 - 06:08 PM.

I don't think that's why there are no animals online. More of a hardware issue...

 

 

 

 

Ten days after the official launch of GTA V Online, the game’s creators are being petitioned due to the portrayal of extreme hunting and animal abuse in the game.

10 days after online was released? What is the petition for? Animals were never online....people are silly. 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:08 PM

Like what Black Rabbit said, we all want animals, but it probably can't happen

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:08 PM

i think it is a bunch of c r a p that R* was pressured into releasing GTAO w/out animals because people are to sensitive and moral that they would take out hunting animals (like people do in real life) when the game GTA itself is all about massacring people endlessly (very unreal) but god forbid if we are able to hunt down animals and take some aggression out on a couple of deer, wolves, or chickens they call that animal abuse but killing hundreds of people is ok and not psychotic?

 

 

 

 

Where did R* say they didn't add animals online due sensitive or moral issues.  Since when does R* even care?

 

Animals exist..Just not online yet.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:10 PM

yeah it's a hardware thing. Physics seem toned down too. You can't do that thing where you jump then punch and faceplant into the ground. Works in SP but not online. and animal variety is kinda meh in the game anyway. Tons of deer, occasional cougar, birds and dogs. wish they had bears near chilliad


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:10 PM Edited by a-boondocksaint-, 04 April 2014 - 06:11 PM.

animals were going to be online as a hunting side mission thing but the petition made it so noone ever gets animals online they are possible btw because i see the occasional dog running around online

 

 

yeah it's a hardware thing. Physics seem toned down too. You can't do that thing where you jump then punch and faceplant into the ground. Works in SP but not online. and animal variety is kinda meh in the game anyway. Tons of deer, occasional cougar, birds and dogs. wish they had bears near chilliad

it's not a hardware thing it's a server thing online runs more off servers than your console


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:12 PM Edited by Vooodu, 04 April 2014 - 06:12 PM.

animals were going to be online as a hunting side mission thing but the petition made it so noone ever gets animals online they are possible btw because i see the occasional dog running around online

 

 

LOL.. A petition by who?    Do you have proof of this?

 

I never heard of this...  And i doubt R* cares about petition by about people who won't be buying their game.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

 

animals were going to be online as a hunting side mission thing but the petition made it so noone ever gets animals online they are possible btw because i see the occasional dog running around online

 

 

LOL.. A petition by who?    Do you have proof of this?

 

I never heard of this...  And i doubt R* cares about petition by about people who won't be buying their game.

 

read my cited link dude


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

 

animals were going to be online as a hunting side mission thing but the petition made it so noone ever gets animals online they are possible btw because i see the occasional dog running around online

 

 
 

Dogs online? Do you even play this game? 


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:15 PM

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:15 PM

It's Rockstar.  They thrive on controversy. I seriously doubt they're going to put the kibosh on a hunting DLC because a few non-playing weenies whined about it.

 

Like everyone else says, the lack of animals in GTAO is more likely do to hardware issues and keeping lag to a minimum.  That's why there are no sharks in the ocean, birds in the air, and less NPC's walking around than in Story mode.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:16 PM Edited by JohnGazman, 04 April 2014 - 06:17 PM.

 

animals were going to be online as a hunting side mission thing but the petition made it so noone ever gets animals online they are possible btw because i see the occasional dog running around online

 

 

Did you even read the article you cited? It's only talking about Single Player, you numpty.

 

 

At a certain point in gameplay, GTA V Online players will gain control over the character of “Trevor”; using this character, they must complete the “Strangers and Freaks?” mission, after which they are introduced to Cletus. Cletus is a hunting fanatic who teaches the gamer how to target and shoot coyotes, as well as car tires and satellites. With this basic training, gamers can travel to Bayview Lodge in the Paleto Forest and partake of many different hunting missions.

 

Hunting was never in Online, hence why it was also not removed ten days after launch. 


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:17 PM

It's Rockstar.  They thrive on controversy. I seriously doubt they're going to put the kibosh on a hunting DLC because a few non-playing weenies whined about it.

 

Like everyone else says, the lack of animals in GTAO is more likely do to hardware issues and keeping lag to a minimum.  That's why there are no sharks in the ocean, birds in the air, and less NPC's walking around than in Story mode.

not a few like 10,000 people dude (so that cite says) http://guardianlv.co...graphic-videos/


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:19 PM

It's more for a hardware reason, not for being sensible.
Red Dead Redemption had wild animals online.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:21 PM Edited by a-boondocksaint-, 04 April 2014 - 06:21 PM.

It's more for a hardware reason, not for being sensible.
Red Dead Redemption had wild animals online.

RDR didn't run on the same hardcore game engine that GTA runs on,  that RDR engine is outdated and 10 x less powerful and demanding

not a good comparison


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:21 PM Edited by Darth_Rob, 04 April 2014 - 06:21 PM.

 

It's Rockstar.  They thrive on controversy. I seriously doubt they're going to put the kibosh on a hunting DLC because a few non-playing weenies whined about it.

 

Like everyone else says, the lack of animals in GTAO is more likely do to hardware issues and keeping lag to a minimum.  That's why there are no sharks in the ocean, birds in the air, and less NPC's walking around than in Story mode.

not a few like 10,000 people dude (so that cite says) http://guardianlv.co...graphic-videos/

 

10,000?  You know how many copies of this game have sold?


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:23 PM

 

 

It's Rockstar.  They thrive on controversy. I seriously doubt they're going to put the kibosh on a hunting DLC because a few non-playing weenies whined about it.

 

Like everyone else says, the lack of animals in GTAO is more likely do to hardware issues and keeping lag to a minimum.  That's why there are no sharks in the ocean, birds in the air, and less NPC's walking around than in Story mode.

not a few like 10,000 people dude (so that cite says) http://guardianlv.co...graphic-videos/

 

10,000?  You know how many copies of this game

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:24 PM

 

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 

 

 

You are a complete idiot. Not even sure why I'm replying. Just waiting for lunch break. 

But to confirm: You are an idiot. 


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:24 PM

Frankly OP, I wouldn't trust a word they say. Their research is clearly flawed. Observe;

 

 

 

Grand Theft Auto, one of the most popular video games of all time, has a reputation as a violent, misogynistic game that allows its players to beat each other senseless or kill one another for profit. This is the first GTA release where the violence is not confined to the human race.

 

Orly?

 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:28 PM Edited by a-boondocksaint-, 04 April 2014 - 06:29 PM.

 

 

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 

 

 

You are a complete idiot. Not even sure why I'm replying. Just waiting for lunch break. 

But to confirm: You are an idiot.

really wow thought forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:32 PM

Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:34 PM

 

 

 

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 

 

 

You are a complete idiot. Not even sure why I'm replying. Just waiting for lunch break. 

But to confirm: You are an idiot and I suck dick for a living

really wow thought forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore

 

Look, by the fact that you made this stupid thread it is evident you believe what you wrote, you are not just "acknowledging" them.

 

But if you want to get all childish and respond to insults like that... why the hell you think "forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore"?  You act vicious but expect kindness?

 

You new to the internet, kid?


Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I believe its that in SP the computer only has to render animals around you, but in MP animals around any player have to be rendered, and that creates a lot for the computer to keep track of.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:36 PM Edited by livejoker, 04 April 2014 - 06:37 PM.

Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Well Red Dead had animals but hadn't many peds in a town. It was really good for that setting and there was even less people in the forest (like 3-4 guys on horses) so the possibility for animal encounters online was possible. GTA V is a real city with many people no matter where you go (except the northern part of the map where animals could be) but they're in Single Player where online it probably has to generate content for the other players as well....?

I'm not into game dev either so I may be talking pure crap but no matter what it is, if animals had to be removed to allow more stuff for online, I'm all for it. I think animals would just be "there" with very few hunting parties.

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Damnit, Alien got to the "render all players surroundings" argument before me.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:37 PM

 

 

 

 

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 

 

 

You are a complete idiot. Not even sure why I'm replying. Just waiting for lunch break. 

But to confirm: You are an idiot and I suck dick for a living

really wow thought forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore

 

Look, by the fact that you made this stupid thread it is evident you believe what you wrote, you are not just "acknowledging" them.

 

But if you want to get all childish and respond to insults like that... why the hell you think "forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore"?  You act vicious but expect kindness?

 

You new to the internet, kid?


Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I believe its that in SP the computer only has to render animals around you, but in MP animals around any player have to be rendered, and that creates a lot for the computer to keep track of.

 

fyi what i meant this post by was to say that it is kinda funny that people would buy a game that you can mass murder people in but don't want to kill innocent animals that they would petition a game thats all 

i am not bashing anyone in anyway just pointing out the funny things about that situation and putting the "facts" out there that it is benign to do such a thing


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

Those things you put out there would only be considered "facts" by Fox News.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:39 PM Edited by Black Rabbit, 04 April 2014 - 06:40 PM.

 

 

 

If you really believe Rockstar removed ... animals from online only, but left in water(gasoline)boarding, murder, copious drugs, rape references, etc.... you haven't really analyzed your concept very well.  Or so I would hope.

i just put the facts out there as i just found this out i don't believe anything online i just acknowledge them 

 

 

You are a complete idiot. Not even sure why I'm replying. Just waiting for lunch break. 

But to confirm: You are an idiot.

really wow thought forums is where you can speak your mind ....guess not anymore

 

Sorry if that came off rude, like I said, I'm hungry and bored. 

 

I'm still not sure you even play the game because 1) you seem to think there are dogs online and 2) you believe an article about Rockstar from a crappy website who has no clue what the difference between GTAV and GTA:O is.....

 

 

 

fyi what i meant this post by was to say that it is kinda funny that people would buy a game that you can mass murder people in but don't want to kill innocent animals that they would petition a game thats all 

 

 

The people "signing" that petition, making a big deal of it or writing articles like that ARE NOT THE ONES WHO BOUGHT AND PLAY THE GAME


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

wait till GTA O comes for PC and next gen


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:40 PM Edited by stonedpimpso, 04 April 2014 - 06:40 PM.

op is dumber than the moron that wrote the article he links to.

 

this is a terrible thread.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:41 PM


Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I believe its that in SP the computer only has to render animals around you, but in MP animals around any player have to be rendered, and that creates a lot for the computer to keep track of.

 

 

 

 

Can somebody explain to me why it is a hardware issue? I mean, I see tons of NPC's on the streets but a few animals are not possible due to hardware issues? In fact animals are just NPC's in different skins right? If they reached the limit on what the hardware can take would it not be a solution to cut some person-NPC's and add animal-NPC's?

 

Serious question, I'm not into this hardware stuff so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Well Red Dead had animals but hadn't many peds in a town. It was really good for that setting and there was even less people in the forest (like 3-4 guys on horses) so the possibility for animal encounters online was possible. GTA V is a real city with many people no matter where you go (except the northern part of the map where animals could be) but they're in Single Player where online it probably has to generate content for the other players as well....?

I'm not into game dev either so I may be talking pure crap but no matter what it is, if animals had to be removed to allow more stuff for online, I'm all for it. I think animals would just be "there" with very few hunting parties.

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Damnit, Alien got to the "render all players surroundings" argument before me.

 

 

That makes sense. Thanks dudes.

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