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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:22 PM

I'm not here to stir up sh*t over "who's better" Johnny K or Trevor. It's been discussed endlessly and to death on here.

What I do want to say is that I thought it was really weird how Ashley just stood there and watched Johnny get beaten to death without so much as a peep from her. What the hell is that? Johnny literally saved Ashley's life a few times over. Wouldn't she put herself inbetween T and Johnny after the bottle strike? Or the first couple of stomps? It's just weird seeing her not react at all until after Johnny is dead.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:33 PM

Meth. That's why.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:39 PM

She's probably too f*cked off her mind to know what to do. She was like that half the time in TLAD too. Nothing we can do now though, lets just hope that if Rockstar wants to kill off another protagonist in future, that them and their allies actually put up a fight.
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:49 PM

Both her and Johnny were f*cked up from all the meth they've probably done over the last few years. Maybe the initial shock of Trevor kicking the sh*t out of Johnny stunned her, too.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:59 PM

It has to do with shock, and the fact that Trevor gives her her fix. I doubt she wanted to jeopardize that by stepping in,

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

Because it wouldn't make a difference, would it? He'd still do it, and he probably would have finished off her too, so logically she stayed out of it. Plus the shock got to her.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:35 PM

Since she seems to have no problem cheating on him with Trevor she probably doesn't care about him very much. She was an albatross around his neck and didn't really love him. It is an example of what can happen when you get with the wrong woman.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 05:01 PM

That's part of the reason why I let her live.  If Trevor finished her off, it'd have been quick and painless.  For doing what she did to Johnny, who was easily the coolest protagonist ever until Trevor came along, she deserved to meet her demise at the business end of a bad batch of smack getting gangf*cked by grandpas.  I'm like "f*ck you, bitch.  You did more damage to the Lost MC than Billy and Brian combined."

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:06 PM Edited by Zee, 04 April 2014 - 07:07 PM.

That's part of the reason why I let her live.  If Trevor finished her off, it'd have been quick and painless.  For doing what she did to Johnny, who was easily the coolest protagonist ever until Trevor came along, she deserved to meet her demise at the business end of a bad batch of smack getting gangf*cked by grandpas.  I'm like "f*ck you, bitch.  You did more damage to the Lost MC than Billy and Brian combined."

LOL, exactly. I mean, yeah Ashley treated Johnny wrong but wouldnt she be like "Stop, Trevor!" OR SOMETHING after like, the THIRD head stomp?

I feel like the scene wouldve been more emotionally powerful if Wade and Ron were holding Ashley back while Ashley was screaming "No! Johnny!" etc. Instead of just standing there.

I mean, Ashley was cold, but THAT cold?
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:11 PM

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

Shock.

 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:21 PM

lol..johny's ass got beaten by trevor..im so sad.(seriosuly.) I mean trevor is now a millionare s*it and such a f*cker..johny doesn't deserved that..:( He is still a runner...along with us. :) I MISS U JOHNY K....


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 08:49 PM Edited by Deadly Target, 04 April 2014 - 08:51 PM.

I'm thinking it had less to do with the characters being on meth, and more about the Houser's being on meth when rushing this script out the door.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:39 PM

I guess she didn´t help him because she was on drugs,she probably didn´t even realized what happened until Johnny was dead.Even if she did try something,I don´t think she could do anything to Trevor to stop him from attacking Johnny.

What I find sad is how Johnny had a really screwed up life.First he lost some friends(Jason and Jim)in TLAD,his club president betrayed them,his gang split in two gangs(one that supported Johnny and one that supported Brian and Billy)and by the end of GTA TLAD it looked like The Lost MC Alderney chapter fell apart.In GTA 5 we see that they have recovered and relocated in San Andreas,but the first thing that happened with them is Johnny(who now became a methhead)getting killed and The Lost MC becoming an enemy gang that almost got wiped out again.I hope that in some future game The Lost MC are allies with the player´s character,or at least neutral like in GTA 4.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 11:00 PM

The stress of the situation itself + high on meth = no reaction whatsoever.

 

I mean, put yourself in this scenario, will you react in some way?


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 12:02 AM

Because she wanted more of trevors big dick?

I dunno.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 02:15 AM

I guess she didn´t help him because she was on drugs,she probably didn´t even realized what happened until Johnny was dead.Even if she did try something,I don´t think she could do anything to Trevor to stop him from attacking Johnny.

What I find sad is how Johnny had a really screwed up life.First he lost some friends(Jason and Jim)in TLAD,his club president betrayed them,his gang split in two gangs(one that supported Johnny and one that supported Brian and Billy)and by the end of GTA TLAD it looked like The Lost MC Alderney chapter fell apart.In GTA 5 we see that they have recovered and relocated in San Andreas,but the first thing that happened with them is Johnny(who now became a methhead)getting killed and The Lost MC becoming an enemy gang that almost got wiped out again.I hope that in some future game The Lost MC are allies with the player´s character,or at least neutral like in GTA 4.

I know, man.  f*ck, look at the house Johnny lives in at the end of TLAD.

 

And the tragedy is even further compounded when you consider the fact that GTA Online is a prequel to GTAV, and look what happens there.  Their deals with the Vagos get ambushed, their tanker truck gets stolen, their crystal meth factory gets raided, some guy named Mushroom Hank steals some of their bikes, their RV meth lab was stolen, a bunch of them got killed while trying to sell coke to a bunch of hippies, their various weapons depots got attacked, they tried to steal some satellite dishes but those got stolen out from under them, and worst of all, Trevor had someone raid Stab City, killing even more Lost brothers, just to steal a Lost van, just so he could f*ck Ashley in it, just to torment Johnny.

 

And then he stomps his head in.

 

And then he kills the two lieutenants who always had his back.

 

And then he kills everyone in Stab City.

 

Twice.

 

He proceeds to insult him every time he comes up in conversation.

 

He even arrests Johnny's friend and meth dealer Larry Tupper to collect the bounty on him.

 

 

 

...Hey.  I just had a thought.  There are SOME people survived by Johnny who just might be a little bit pissed off.  Not that Congressman Stubbs would necessarily care about his death, but an investment is an investment.  Nobody would suspect a cripple and a weekend warrior/lawyer but Angus Martin and Dave Grossman are alive last I checked.  And there's ONE GUY who could likely track Trevor down by way of his military connection: Captain Klebitz.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:33 AM

Johnny loved Ashley, not the other way around. 

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:51 AM

 

 

 

He even arrests Johnny's friend and meth dealer Larry Tupper to collect the bounty on him.

 

Or kills him, depending on choice.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 10:04 AM Edited by P.C.M., 06 April 2014 - 10:05 AM.

I Like Special K.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 10:31 AM

Crystal Meth. It can do anything to you. Like GTA Wikia said, Johnny was and still is a Shadow Of His Former Self. He is a pussy, and I was happy Trevor stumped that Bitch boys head. And it would be better if in storyline wise, you could snap that bitch Ashley's neck off. It was her fault Johnny got into meth, but also Johnny's fault. Why would someone as wise as Johnny take meth?

 

If you remember JK from LAD he was a wise dude. Never was the ''take crystal meth'' type of guy. 


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 11:21 AM

Trevor probably would have f*cked up her too then :lol:


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 12:00 PM

I honestly didn't know who that dead Johnny guy was until coming on this forum.
TLAD is the only modern gta game I haven't finished the story because I found it too boring.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 12:59 PM

What I do want to say is that I thought it was really weird how Ashley just stood there and watched Johnny get beaten to death without so much as a peep from her. What the hell is that? Johnny literally saved Ashley's life a few times over. Wouldn't she put herself inbetween T and Johnny after the bottle strike? Or the first couple of stomps? It's just weird seeing her not react at all until after Johnny is dead.

 

She's rooted to the spot, like a rabbit that has been enveloped by car headlights. Ashley clearly wasn't good at dealing with frightening situations, evident from how she needed rescuing by Johnny a couple of times in TLAD.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:02 PM

Because she f*cked Trevor as payment for killing Johnny.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

This is off-topic, but I don't get the people saying that the Lost MC is lost forever? The Los Santos chapter is kinda big, and it's obvious Klebitz The Heeb (R.I.P) was retired as chapter president a long time ago.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:51 PM Edited by FranklinDeRoosevelt, 06 April 2014 - 01:52 PM.

Well Johnny wasn't even tough, just because you're in a gang, doesn't mean you should be gloating with whoever you get into beef with. His story ended, and we don't know what happened in between TLAD and GTA V, he probably had a rivalry with Trevor. Trevor showed him who's the boss, he died. No big deal, just because he was in TLAD, which was a DLC doesn't mean he was untouchable or anything. He's a goddamn biker ffs.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:53 PM

Well Johnny wasn't even tough, just because you're in a gang, doesn't mean you should be gloating with whoever you get into beef with. His story ended, and we don't know what happened in between TLAD and GTA V, he probably had a rivalry with Trevor. Trevor showed him who's the boss, he died. No big deal, just because he was in TLAD, which was a DLC doesn't mean he was untouchable or anything. He's a goddamn biker ffs.

Yeah. No GTA protagonist is untouchable. We all know what happened to Vic Vance.

 

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:56 PM

 

I guess she didn´t help him because she was on drugs,she probably didn´t even realized what happened until Johnny was dead.Even if she did try something,I don´t think she could do anything to Trevor to stop him from attacking Johnny.

What I find sad is how Johnny had a really screwed up life.First he lost some friends(Jason and Jim)in TLAD,his club president betrayed them,his gang split in two gangs(one that supported Johnny and one that supported Brian and Billy)and by the end of GTA TLAD it looked like The Lost MC Alderney chapter fell apart.In GTA 5 we see that they have recovered and relocated in San Andreas,but the first thing that happened with them is Johnny(who now became a methhead)getting killed and The Lost MC becoming an enemy gang that almost got wiped out again.I hope that in some future game The Lost MC are allies with the player´s character,or at least neutral like in GTA 4.

I know, man.  f*ck, look at the house Johnny lives in at the end of TLAD.

 

And the tragedy is even further compounded when you consider the fact that GTA Online is a prequel to GTAV, and look what happens there.  Their deals with the Vagos get ambushed, their tanker truck gets stolen, their crystal meth factory gets raided, some guy named Mushroom Hank steals some of their bikes, their RV meth lab was stolen, a bunch of them got killed while trying to sell coke to a bunch of hippies, their various weapons depots got attacked, they tried to steal some satellite dishes but those got stolen out from under them, and worst of all, Trevor had someone raid Stab City, killing even more Lost brothers, just to steal a Lost van, just so he could f*ck Ashley in it, just to torment Johnny.

 

And then he stomps his head in.

 

And then he kills the two lieutenants who always had his back.

 

And then he kills everyone in Stab City.

 

Twice.

 

He proceeds to insult him every time he comes up in conversation.

 

He even arrests Johnny's friend and meth dealer Larry Tupper to collect the bounty on him.

 

 

 

...Hey.  I just had a thought.  There are SOME people survived by Johnny who just might be a little bit pissed off.  Not that Congressman Stubbs would necessarily care about his death, but an investment is an investment.  Nobody would suspect a cripple and a weekend warrior/lawyer but Angus Martin and Dave Grossman are alive last I checked.  And there's ONE GUY who could likely track Trevor down by way of his military connection: Captain Klebitz.

 

Nice one, I never even thought about that. Michael Klebitz coming after Trevor. Would make for an interesting scenario for sure.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 02:35 PM

 

Well Johnny wasn't even tough, just because you're in a gang, doesn't mean you should be gloating with whoever you get into beef with. His story ended, and we don't know what happened in between TLAD and GTA V, he probably had a rivalry with Trevor. Trevor showed him who's the boss, he died. No big deal, just because he was in TLAD, which was a DLC doesn't mean he was untouchable or anything. He's a goddamn biker ffs.

Yeah. No GTA protagonist is untouchable. We all know what happened to Vic Vance.

 

Spoiler

 

Franklin could die, anyone right now could die depends how they go after the story in V. Personally, I don't see him dying because he isn't even in big sh*t, he has no one after him. He's probably settled after the DLC story, just like Michael with his family and Trevor just chilling and doing the usual crazy sh*t he does.





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