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#1

Posted 04 April 2014 - 05:36 AM Edited by Phillipino0418, 04 April 2014 - 05:36 AM.

Im still playing GTA III so i'm trying to finish the mission but when im came in the mission ''Last Request''

Why Salvatore Leone & 8 Ball trying to kill Claude from the trap car ? i don't know why because Claude work for Salvatore Leone & 8 Ball but why they like both to kill Claude ?

Can anyone can explainde ? because ain't know.

 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:12 AM

Because Salvatore gets increasingly paranoid of everyone around him as he believes they will all turn against him, which is why he tries to get rid of Claude after Maria (his wife) told him that the two of them were having an affair.

And I don't think that 8-Ball knew that Claude was Salvatore's target, but I may be wrong. Can't remember...

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:13 PM

IF not the stupid Maria, we would work for SAL like in LCS.


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:30 PM

Claude shoots Maria at the end anyway, so what the fuss ! x)


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:34 PM

We actually don't know that Claude kill Maria, he could use shotgun to shut up her.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:20 PM

Even if Salvatore was paranoid, he didn't want to kill Claude because he could be a traitor. Maria told Salvatore that she was daiting Claude just to piss him off. It worked, so he wanted to get rid of him.

 

I don't think 8-Ball wanted to kill Claude. We don't know if he was the one that rigged the Cheetah, and even if he did, he either didn't know that it was gonna be used to kill Claude, or if he did, well, nothing personal, just bussiness.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 03:06 PM

Oh thank's guys so Claude kill Maria ? so i know now what happen on Maria in the last mission when i heard gun sound the Maria stop talking so Claude kill Maria...Thank's...


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 06:07 PM

No one knows if he kills her or not. The plot was left ambiguous and it's never been officially revealed what was meant to happen. It is assumed that 8-Ball was the one placed the bomb in the Cheetah as his and Claude's affiliation ends quite abruptly at that point in the story which suggests that Claude knows it was him and/or that 8-Ball has gone in to hiding.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

Ok thank's to Andreaz1 but i have again question when Claude killed Salvatore Toni Cipriani will become enemy of Claude ? or still friend ?


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:54 AM

Tony and all of the remaining Mafia people (Joey Leone, Luigi Goterelli) are his enemies from that point on. Any missions you might have left for either of them when you do "Last Requests" will become permanently disabled after that mission. This is one of the ways to make it impossible to reach 100% completion of the game.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:53 PM

Because Salvatore gets increasingly paranoid of everyone around him as he believes they will all turn against him, which is why he tries to get rid of Claude after Maria (his wife) told him that the two of them were having an affair.

And I don't think that 8-Ball knew that Claude was Salvatore's target, but I may be wrong. Can't remember...


8-Ball was cool with Claude the whole game, so I doubt he knew what the target was for. He probably just installed the bomb and no questions asked.

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 02:20 PM Edited by ArchKnight, 15 April 2014 - 02:20 PM.

After the incidents of Liberty City stories, Salvatore gets highly paranoid and starts distrusting everyone. Claude knew too much of what Salvatore did and in addition to that when Maria tells him about her affair with Claude, he gets increasingly paranoid. Claude's death didn't come as a surprise to 8-Ball. He works for Leone Family and must have done 100s of such tasks before. Jealously may have been the reason why Salvatore wanted to separate Maria and Claude.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 07:34 PM Edited by Bartleby, 15 April 2014 - 07:35 PM.

The conventional reason for "Last Requests" has been pretty well covered by now, but if I could plug an alternative theory put forward by RiffRaff1138 quite some time ago that I always found to be interesting. If you'd rather a TL:DR, basically Asuka and Maria trick Claude into working for the Yakuza by making the whole thing up. I'm not sure if some events in LCS contradict that as I've never played it, but I thought it was a fun thing to think about.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 09:59 PM

i guess catalina and salvatore made surprize for claude but i am  not sure :/


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:24 AM Edited by ArchKnight, 16 April 2014 - 08:26 AM.

i guess catalina and salvatore made surprize for claude but i am  not sure :/

Catlina and Salvatore were never involved together. Leone Mafia and the Cartels hate each other.

The conventional reason for "Last Requests" has been pretty well covered by now, but if I could plug an alternative theory put forward by RiffRaff1138 quite some time ago that I always found to be interesting. If you'd rather a TL:DR, basically Asuka and Maria trick Claude into working for the Yakuza by making the whole thing up. I'm not sure if some events in LCS contradict that as I've never played it, but I thought it was a fun thing to think about.

I'm not sure how correct the theory is, but we know from LCS that Salvatore even tried killing Toni during Driving Mr. Leone and was paranoid that both Toni and his mother attempted to take hm down. He has the similar trust issues with Claude and decides to get rid of him.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 01:31 AM

I kind of wish you could see Joey as the Don and how things were run.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:18 PM

The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 06:30 PM

The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later.

That's a good point, I almost forget that one. It might be one the reasons why Sal became paranoid.

 

But where is it metionned that Claude dates Maria ?


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Posted 01 May 2014 - 12:30 PM

The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later.

That's a good point, I almost forget that one. It might be one the reasons why Sal became paranoid.
 
But where is it metionned that Claude dates Maria ?

They never dated exactly, but when she tells Salvatore that she and Claude have entered into a relationship and "they were an item", it might be the reason leading to Salvatore trying to kill Claude.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:15 PM

To me it actually seemed as if it was a forced relationship of sorts. Maria seemed to be into it an all that shizz but Claude, obviously being unable/unwanting to speak didn't want any of it, ultimately leading to the lack of remorse when he finally killed Maria (in my opinion he killed her, but that's got its own topic).

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:12 AM

Well, at times it did seem like Maria was trying to force a relationship. Maybe she didn't want to be with Salvatore or the LFM anymore. Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:58 PM

god, i remember being soooo pissed off bout the end of working for Salvatore and even having to kill him 10 years ago...  :colgate:

 

guess thats main reason why i prefer LCS over III - it kinda fixed my childhood (i was about 12 or 13 at the time) trauma lol 


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 09:21 PM

Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her.


Wellll we can't say that for sure. :colgate:

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:43 AM Edited by universetwisters, 14 May 2014 - 02:43 AM.

 

Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her.


Wellll we can't say that for sure. :colgate:

 

 

Sometimes I like to imagine right as they climbed to the top of the dam, a clown pops out of nowhere, startles Claude, and gets shot by Claude.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

 

 

Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her.


Wellll we can't say that for sure. :colgate:

 

 

Sometimes I like to imagine right as they climbed to the top of the dam, a clown pops out of nowhere, startles Claude, and gets shot by Claude.

 

It would be better to kill both Maria and the clown if it popped out.

Maria is annoying in my opinnion.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:23 PM

About the shooting Maria thing, I personally think it was a way to end the dialog and just get on with the end credits music. That's just my opinion. Perhaps we should send a letter to R* asking them what the shot meant once and for all.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:46 PM

Loads of people already have. We'll never know.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 04:31 PM

About the shooting Maria thing, I personally think it was a way to end the dialog and just get on with the end credits music. That's just my opinion. Perhaps we should send a letter to R* asking them what the shot meant once and for all.

They may have resisted many such offers over the decades. There's no use of writing to them.

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 10:23 AM

It's true sal wanted to kill Claude but I think 8-Ball did not know that Claude was the target or maybe Salvatore gave 8-Ball $$$$$$$ in order to kill Claude


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 02:16 AM

It's true sal wanted to kill Claude but I think 8-Ball did not know that Claude was the target or maybe Salvatore gave 8-Ball $$$$$$$ in order to kill Claude

8-Ball was never the Muscle Man or cleaner. Claude would easily send him to death. Possibly, 8-ball knew, since he's been with Leone Family for years.




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