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#1

Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:35 AM Edited by Nz_fool, 04 April 2014 - 11:04 PM.

Hey guys, How do you feel about not seeing past GTA characters in GTA V? It's nothing new and you may know R* always said, "The 3D universe doesn't exist in the HD universe." and that's why they can't be seen together, etc. This is a ridiculous excuse, there is no reason not to create an HD character from a 3D character, fan art shows it is very achievable, I have seen some amazing paintings of characters from 3D GTAs, and how about Max Payne? Another R* game, who's protag has been the same person throughout the 3D and HD era, no fuss in different universes there, same company, same game engines as 3D/HD GTA games, and one other fact that really made me think is, if you got the collectors edition of the game, you can choose some very special parents for your character in GTA Online:

Claude from GTA III (A 3D GTA game)

Mindy from GTA III

R* broke the fourth rule here, adding a 3D character in an HD game, the complete opposite of what R* had said was not "Possible"

 

These are just my thoughts, and most of the stuff I have written might not appeal to you, but I just think if GTA fans want to see a favourite character of theirs from a past game, they should at least get a cameo.  

 

Below are Fan Made 3D character painting, and I think this is what they could look like in an HD game:

 

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***EDIT***

Many points below, if this post doesn't make sense I'm sure the comments will help you

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:39 AM Edited by YukiEiri, 02 April 2014 - 08:39 AM.

GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon.
GTA V does not have those characters.
Your whining is pointless.

 

***** EDIT *****
And how are "paintings" "HD"?

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:50 AM

GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon.
GTA V does not have those characters.
Your whining is pointless.

 

***** EDIT *****
And how are "paintings" "HD"?

 

I'm not whining, just saying what I think, and if Online Co-exists, then why aren't all of our other favourite characters playing a part in it? I'm not saying they won't, there are still more DLCs to be released, so we shall wait and see.

 

*****EDIT*****

Realistic is what I meant, as close as they will get if they were to be in HD

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:52 AM Edited by oCrapaCreeper, 02 April 2014 - 09:03 AM.

As said above, online isn't canon. The different universe argument has nothing to do with previous characters not being achievable. It's Rockstar's explanation for why things such as Liberty City are almost completely different in the HD games.

 

However, there are still some things that do infact break the HD vs 3D arguement, most notably a scene in one of the TV shows of IV.

 

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 It's clearly the 3D era San Andreas with Las Venturas right next to Los Santos and San Fierro, which would be impossible in the HD era for obvious reasons. Only way for Rockstar to break that inconsistency is to claim that the area is an entirely different area in the HD era.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:58 AM

In GTA Online we can make a totally new character using Claude and Misty as a parents. We can't play directly as them, so technically they don't exist in HD era.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

Wish they did.  Would be cool to play as Claude.

I wanna know what his voice sounds like.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:35 AM

I don't care about universes but it keeps things fresh instead of them just recycling old characters.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:55 AM

I really don't care about seeing old characters in newer games.

When past characters show up, it needs to fit the story. Not just jaming people in there to keep the nostalgic people happy.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:02 AM

It would be good if Rockstar made an epilogue to each 3D universe game (excluding Vice City Stories because well, ya know).


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:21 AM

"Waaaa a gaming company wanted to reboot their series! What assholes!"

 

Grow up.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:48 AM

There are no "UNIVERSES" in Max Payne 3, and Max Payne 3 is based on real life places, and Max Payne isn't canon with GTA.
Claude and Misty aren't canon in GTA O because they just appear as parents, and that's just to make your character look like them. And finally, there's no such thing as "HD PAINTING".
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:05 PM

 

GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon.
GTA V does not have those characters.
Your whining is pointless.

 

***** EDIT *****
And how are "paintings" "HD"?

 

I'm not whining, just saying what I think, and if Online Co-exists, then why aren't all of our other favourite characters playing a part in it? I'm not saying they won't, there are still more DLCs to be released, so we shall wait and see.

 

*****EDIT*****

Realistic is what I meant, as close as they will get if they were to be in HD

 

 

Think youre taking them too literal. What I took away from the different universe is that was then this is now, we're doing something different.

tbh you do come off whiny. Like a child thats been told no but still go but whyyyyyyy?

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:05 PM

Is the first one fan art of Dr. Dre?

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:06 PM Edited by TensaZangetsu, 02 April 2014 - 12:07 PM.

 

 

 

Today I learned "paintings" are now called HD.


Today I learned "you're " a fa**ot! WOW!
And today I learned that you're a 12 year old. Seriously, please stop. Just.....stahp.
"f*ck off."

 

Was that supposed to be a comeback? Also ,why are you defending this guy? I'm sure he can defend himself and if not then too bad.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:09 PM

If anything I much prefer to keep the HD era and the 3D era seperate. Granted the 3D era had some pretty good character (Tommy, The Truth, Toni Cipriani, etc) but I see no reason for any of the 3D era characters to show up again. Anyway, I would much prefer to not think that Niko exists in the same universe as CJ (that said I would also love to think Niko doesn't coexist with Trevor, but that can't be helped now).

If you look at all the plots, the 3D era is just one large story starting with Martinez kicking Vic out of the army and ending with Claude killing Catalina. Where on the other hand the HD era are all seperate stories, with certain characters and plots intersecting.

And then there's the fact that Rockstar are allowed to remake cities and do them right, and then keep with continuity (being a big fan of San Francisco, I would be pissed off if they reused the sh*tty SF from SA again too).
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

Today I learned "paintings" are now called HD.


Today I learned "you're " a fa**ot! WOW!
And today I learned that you're a 12 year old. Seriously, please stop. Just.....stahp.
"f*ck off."
Was that supposed to be a comeback? Also ,why are you defending this guy? I'm sure he can defend himself and if not then too bad.
sorry..but i hate the people who says..: oh..12 years old fagg and something like that. And he got an opinion about 3d era.....even if it's a dumb one

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:22 PM

Jesus, people just can't f*cking let go of the old games, can they?

Even if they did decide to keep the eras together, what's the f*cking point?  They were never going to re-use characters anyways.  The only one they could even reuse is Claude, and they wouldn't do that because he was the silent protagonist representing the player, an element from an era of video games that's was already old when he was used.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:27 PM Edited by davegrimes96, 02 April 2014 - 12:29 PM.

rockstar should just forget about the different era's. I would like to get missions in future gta's from the truth, ken rosenberg, mike toreno or kent paul or maccer. and like to see more places from the 3d era games there are hardly any place from the original los santos part of the san andreas map 

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:30 PM

Another stupid thread....

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:45 PM

rockstar should just forget about the different era's. I would like to get missions in future gta's from the truth, ken rosenberg, mike toreno or kent paul or maccer. and like to see more places from the 3d era games there are hardly any place from the original los santos part of the san andreas map 

I'd rather them think up new and interesting characters as memorable The Truth, Rosenbrg, Toreno and Maccer than than just reusing the same old characters. They were memorable and likable, but if they just keep reusing the same characters in every game, the series as a whole would suffer for it.

 

I like the universe concept. I don't mind them re-imaginging older locations, so long as they bring something new to the table each time and it makes sure that each iteration makes sense within its own universe. In the future though I hope they move away from LC, VC, LS, SF & LV and start using new cities.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:00 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 02 April 2014 - 02:10 PM.

As of now GTA is a multi-verse franchise (2D,3D and HD) i cant see them unifying the 3 Universes esp. when the 2D Era games were released on 1990s hardwares (1997-1999) and the 3D on early 2000s hardwares (2001-2006),plus the HD Universe will be long-lasting (unlike 2D and 3D Eras) until Rockstar totally reboot GTA (but i cant see them doing it now,maybe when GTA is 30 or so years older or maybe after GTA's 20th Year in 2017).

Side Note:GTAO is non-canon to IV and V (HD Era) infact it the only game in the franchise that Rockstar can use to do alot of crazy sh*t in-between the Multiverse.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:02 PM Edited by FranklinDeRoosevelt, 02 April 2014 - 02:04 PM.

Yes because San Andreas 2 would be sh*t and ridiculous, and the story would be even worse. Vice City 2 would be terrible as well. So its better the HD era gets new protagonists with a new story in a new recreated world, because you have new things to do, explore, online, new story so you can attach yourself to the character if it's a good story, and many more.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

Why do Rockstar have to explain anything? I think it would totally rock to have Tommy and CJ in some form. Who gives a hoot about different cities and universes.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:34 PM Edited by Tycek, 02 April 2014 - 02:34 PM.

R* won't bring old characters back, so you may just forget about it. If character had physical form in the game then he's gone for good. 


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:37 PM

Wish they did.  Would be cool to play as Claude.

I wanna know what his voice sounds like.

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what if all this time he just didn't know English?

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:42 PM Edited by FranklinDeRoosevelt, 02 April 2014 - 02:43 PM.

Then how exactly would he understand anything people told him? And it's already been known that Claude is mute.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:47 PM

It's already known that he isn't. It was stated in the game that he just doesn't talk much (said by Maria on the Chatterbox) and he's man of few words (confirmed by R*).


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:05 PM

In GTAO we're all Claude.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:13 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 02 April 2014 - 03:14 PM.

In GTAO we're all Claude.


except they can lip-sync to the player words unlike Claude :p
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:48 PM

Hey OP :)

The thing with 3d era and their characters is they simply aren't immortal, this means that Tommy Vercetti would be an OLD man by now, but seeing as R* enjoy the 'killing off characters' trend, he could be dead as IV hints.

I would love to have seen our old protags return but this can be impossible although it is possible :/

The contradictions are everywhere though so the 'tease' is the frustrating bit even as of V where we see OG Loc's album on the floor...R* are a weirdish bunch :)




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