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#1

Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:18 PM

"Good bye my old friend", seriously, Dave should've been the final antagonist. they could've made Dave betray Michael in "The Wrap Up".

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:44 PM

Would have extended the story a little i guess. Not sure what it would have added though. Go here and kill Dave would be pretty anit climatic after the final mission (depending which one you choose).


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:49 PM

As Scoob says, one more killing wouldn't have added to the story and having at least one member of the FIB still 'in office' leaves scope for a future storyline.... 'The Ballad of Crooked Dave' perhaps?

 


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:50 PM

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 03:01 PM

Seriously? Dave was one of the only characters in V that I liked, let alone could tolerate. Plus it wouldn't have suited his character to betray the trio, he was actually the most loyal character in the game.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 03:49 PM

Trevor should have been the antagonist.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM Edited by Los Santos Police Department, 26 March 2014 - 04:53 PM.

Trevor should have been the antagonist.

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The story DLC should have Don Percival (Merryweather CEO) as the antagonist. Well, that's if it is mission based.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:55 PM

 

Trevor should have been the antagonist.

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The story DLC should have Don Percival (Merryweather CEO) as the antagonist. Well, that's if it is mission based.

 

Trevor has been an antagonist to me since i played his first mission.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:05 PM


 


Trevor should have been the antagonist.

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The story DLC should have Don Percival (Merryweather CEO) as the antagonist. Well, that's if it is mission based.
 
Trevor has been an antagonist to me since i played his first mission.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:32 PM Edited by I will pwn you newbs, 26 March 2014 - 05:35 PM.

Just anyone to replace stretch that one didn't really make sense. Like someone else said head of merry weather would make way more sense.

EDIT: also while we're on the topic of endings "C" should have been the only option. A and B are just dumb they make no sense at all. How would killing Trevor satisfy Weston?

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Just anyone to replace stretch that one didn't really make sense. Like someone else said head of merry weather would make way more sense.

EDIT: also while we're on the topic of endings "C" should have been the only option. A and B are just dumb they make no sense at all. How would killing Trevor satisfy Weston?

 

If you call Steve Haines after killing Trevor, he says that ever since Merryweather lost their licence to operate in the US, Devin's been "licking his wounds", Steve then tells Franklin that he will buddy up with Devin to make sure he doesn't take revenge on F and M...


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:53 PM

Just anyone to replace stretch that one didn't really make sense. Like someone else said head of merry weather would make way more sense.

EDIT: also while we're on the topic of endings "C" should have been the only option. A and B are just dumb they make no sense at all. How would killing Trevor satisfy Weston?

God I HATED Stretch. He was a horrible character. How can he even be seen as an Antagonist??

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:06 PM

Just anyone to replace stretch that one didn't really make sense. Like someone else said head of merry weather would make way more sense.

EDIT: also while we're on the topic of endings "C" should have been the only option. A and B are just dumb they make no sense at all. How would killing Trevor satisfy Weston?

Ending A is OK, but ending B is absolutely sh*t. F is out of character in ending B.

 

 

God I HATED Stretch. He was a horrible character. How can he even be seen as an Antagonist??

Well, Franklin also needs an antagonist, right? :lol:


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:19 PM

I thought from the get-go I was gonna have to kill Dave. 

 

And I'd do it with a smile. 

 

I didn't like Dave as soon as he knocked Michael out at the observatory. One of my favorite lines by Michael is actually "f*ck you, Dave." That guy is shysty as f*ck. He and Michael don't seem like friends, I believe one of them actually says they're not during "The Wrap Up."  They seem like two guys cooperating because they both have dirt on eachother. I think if Michael's leverage became useless somehow, Dave could easily be an enemy. 

 

He would have certainly been a much more interesting villain than that ass-clown Steve Haines.   


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:52 PM

It would have been interesting. Making Dave a backstabber at the end. Easy antagonist there. Everyone hates backstabbers.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:17 PM

It would have been interesting. Making Dave a backstabber at the end. Easy antagonist there. Everyone hates backstabbers.


That's what made Dmitri such a good antagonist to me. He made it like he was your friend, got you to do things you didn't really want to do but had to and then stabbed you in the back.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 10:03 PM Edited by killahmatic, 26 March 2014 - 10:03 PM.

It would've been too predictable. I think many of us were expecting Dave to screw over/set up Michael at some point. 

The story ended poorly, but that wouldn't have improved it. 


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:06 PM

It would've been too predictable. I think many of us were expecting Dave to screw over/set up Michael at some point. 
The story ended poorly, but that wouldn't have improved it. 


I like GTA V but even being predictable, it would have been better than Steve Haines & Devin Weston.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:24 PM

It would've been too predictable. I think many of us were expecting Dave to screw over/set up Michael at some point. 

The story ended poorly, but that wouldn't have improved it. 

 

I thought about it at first, but once Steve got involved, I thought it was pretty obvious Dave would become a guy who we would end up pitying...


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:55 PM

To be honest, Dave doesn't fit in the bad guy role...like, at all


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:12 AM

To be honest, Dave doesn't fit in the bad guy role...like, at all


Neither do Haines & Weston really. Haines is a typical douchenozzle fed and Weston is a spoiled rich guy. I think the only viable antagonist in V was Madrazo but they messed that up
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:37 AM

Amanda is the tue antagonist. She made a clusterf*ck of events happen by f*cking the tennis coach.
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:47 AM

I think if Dave was the main antagonist, I would actually like the story to be that option C is the only option, and after that mission, Dave gathers enough damning evidence against all three and decides he is going to bust them once and for all, even risking putting himself in prison. With Michael's family taken hostage once again and this time in a far more secluded location, Michael has to listen to the screams of his wife and children and plan an assassination on Dave. He calls Lester and gangs up Trevor and Franklin to help with ending Dave once and for all. But going into this, all three guys see that this means that this will have to be the end for them. Michael plans to move his family far out from San Andreas and never contact his friends again. Trevor talks him out of it because they're already deep for killing an FBI agent and a big personality in Los Santos. They shouldn't have to worry about it any further.

 

The three set up the plan for the final battle. Lester does some work to find out the secluded location of Dave and Michael's family. With this, Franklin leads a chase to this location. Trevor is to go inside and rescue Michael's family, while Michael takes out security and is to find Dave. After a successful operation, Michael captures Dave and brings him to Trevor and Franklin. This time, they decide that he isn't gonna go out so easy. They strip him down and all three get a chance to torture him with the same methods as earlier in the game with a certain character. After near deadly torture, the three pull out their pistols and shoot him all over the body with the final shots going into the head. Trevor ignites the body in gasoline while Michael and Franklin leave the room. Michael's family is loaded in one of the secret service cars, and Michael believes that there shouldn't be anyone coming after them as long as they didn't leave any incriminating evidence behind. The three protagonists shake their hands and leave the crime scene. After the credits roll for a LONG time, we see that Trevor left a little note behind near Dave's body that says "For those who know, sincerely, the three amigos." Cut to black instantly.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:54 AM

No. Madrazo should've been the antagonist. When he came into the picture I was looking forward to some cartel intimidation, but he turned out to be a pussy.

Dave was bland and uninteresting IMO. I almost nodded off in every cutscene he was in.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:10 AM

No. Madrazo should've been the antagonist. When he came into the picture I was looking forward to some cartel intimidation, but he turned out to be a pussy.

Dave was bland and uninteresting IMO. I almost nodded off in every cutscene he was in.


Yeah after that mission where you tear his house down I thought he'd be a huge focus of the game. You do the vangelico heist so you can pay him back and don't hear from him much after that. I guess he's the reason most the game occurs though because if mike didn't need to pay him back he would have just stayed retired.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:31 AM

I loved Dave Norton. He's the cop version of Michael. 


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:37 PM

I can't see a reason for Dave to do a heel-face-turn and betray the trio. Not only that, but he'd make for a poor antagonist. He isn't very "action-like" in his appearances compared to Steve. I think the only times he shoots a gun is in "Monkey Business" and "The Wrap Up".

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

I can't see a reason for Dave to do a heel-face-turn and betray the trio. Not only that, but he'd make for a poor antagonist. He isn't very "action-like" in his appearances compared to Steve. I think the only times he shoots a gun is in "Monkey Business" and "The Wrap Up".

I gotta agree with that. I only wrote it up if and only if they asked me to make him an antagonist against my will. I do feel though that The Third Way was pretty piss poor in a final mission.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:48 PM

 

I can't see a reason for Dave to do a heel-face-turn and betray the trio. Not only that, but he'd make for a poor antagonist. He isn't very "action-like" in his appearances compared to Steve. I think the only times he shoots a gun is in "Monkey Business" and "The Wrap Up".

I gotta agree with that. I only wrote it up if and only if they asked me to make him an antagonist against my will. I do feel though that The Third Way was pretty piss poor in a final mission.

 

If Rockstar holds true to the idea of single player DLC, I can imagine Dave's role being expanded on, but he still seems unlikely to turn on people. If he had that mindset, he would've turned on Steve or Devin when he had the chance.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:52 PM

 

 

I can't see a reason for Dave to do a heel-face-turn and betray the trio. Not only that, but he'd make for a poor antagonist. He isn't very "action-like" in his appearances compared to Steve. I think the only times he shoots a gun is in "Monkey Business" and "The Wrap Up".

I gotta agree with that. I only wrote it up if and only if they asked me to make him an antagonist against my will. I do feel though that The Third Way was pretty piss poor in a final mission.

 

If Rockstar holds true to the idea of single player DLC, I can imagine Dave's role being expanded on, but he still seems unlikely to turn on people. If he had that mindset, he would've turned on Steve or Devin when he had the chance.

 

Yeah. Besides, he gained enough trust with Michael and keeping him safe for so many years. If Townley was exposed, the government could receive a major court case which would result many going to life in prison. 





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