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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:18 PM Edited by TheMckeever, 25 March 2014 - 04:15 PM.

Yes, yes it is true. They can also be overheard saying that there's nothing wrong with it and also defend the use of Miniguns and RPGs on small-scale DMs. Well that is when you can actually make out what their high-pitched voices are saying. All will sound clearer when their balls eventually drop.

 

And before any of you guys think I can't handle it trust me I can - The last two times I put it on in a Owned=Pickups DM I got 6kills in a row. But had to turn it off cos I felt like I was cheating. Not even needing to get the Headshots.

 

It goes against all I stand for, that's why I've went and made 20+ DMs that are Forced+Pickups by default.

 

Combat Pistol FTW = 3485 Player Kills with - 3218 Headshots with - Held for 30 hours

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:20 PM

Okay cool, since you answered your own question, we can close this whining now. Thanks bro

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:20 PM

This is pointless. *dear mod gods, please lock this obvious attempt at starting a war of butthurt*
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:22 PM

If you took away the auto shotty, people like me would just use the regularly shotty or the AP Pistol 100% of the time. It's really not that big of a deal, it's not like the auto shotgun kills effectively from stupid ranges or fires frag rounds like in BF3. Get over it, yo.

 

Also answering your own thread is not a good way to start a discussion.  

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:24 PM

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're here whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:24 PM

Inb4 OP makes a generalized statement about shotguns and squeakers!


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:25 PM

Yeah I don't really use the auto shotty for the "auto" more so because it looks and sounds awesome.  If they took it away i'd just switch to another one.  I use it.  It's great.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:26 PM

It is too OP at longer range. Used it today on a distance that was WTF...

But I like it as my short range weapon. Could excange it for the pump-shotgun but I will continue too use a shotgun at short range because that is what it's made for.
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:27 PM

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:28 PM

Yeah I don't really use the auto shotty for the "auto" more so because it looks and sounds awesome.  If they took it away i'd just switch to another one.  I use it.  It's great.

 

This.  I can't remember the last time I used a regular shotty.  Always the gold auto-shotty.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:30 PM

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

Single bullet pistol headshots = Skill

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:31 PM Edited by reiniat, 23 March 2014 - 06:32 PM.

The autoshotgun should be nerfed.... And the Pump Shotgun should be buffed....

Lets add that to the list of issues that are foocking obvious but R* will never change...

 

Also... I was just checking THE auto-shotgun spread and i discovered that it doesnt shot pellets.... IT HAS A CONICAL HIT-SCAN, WHO WAS THE IMBECILE AT R* WHO THOUGHT ON THIS?

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:32 PM

 

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

Single bullet pistol headshots = Skill

 

So basically anything that can go on a sh*tty, dubstep covered youtube 420 xXx GOML montage is skill?

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:33 PM

It is very useful at a medium-range(not long), shotties are ment for short-range CQC,


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:33 PM

Yes, weapon choice is all about the circumstances and the range involved.

When someone is driving at me, trying to run me over for an easy kill, the weapon of choice is the auto-shotgun.

If someone is behind cover only a few yards away and their knee or elbow is sticking out, the weapon of choice is the auto-shotgun.

If someone is hiding round a corner, close to me, and I have no grenades, the weapon of choice is the auto-shotgun.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:33 PM

 

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

Single bullet pistol headshots = Skill

 

Sure. But a kill is a kill nonetheless and, if a weapon is allowed, it should be used. There are no rules and frankly, it is a mistake not to use the best weapon for the job. And IF you got too close as to the auto shotty to have range and kill you, who`s the "near skill-less"? The one who pulled the trigger, or the one that got too close?

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:35 PM Edited by darkmaster234, 23 March 2014 - 06:38 PM.

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're hereo whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.


you are answering exactly like the op said people would do, the assault shotgun is a weapons Like many others but its true, it is a weapon with great damage and a lot of speed which makes.....that even my mom could kill me with it with one single shot in the chest,doesnt matter if i make 3 headshots with and assault rifle and if i am extremely more skill in the game, that Make it to unfair, but again as almost every object in mankind, the problem is not in it, thus in the use we make of them, i am not against people who use them when the situation requires it,i am against the ones WHO wins the death matches only using that single weapon....instead of grinding slowly to obtain skills
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:39 PM Edited by Phyxsius-, 23 March 2014 - 06:40 PM.

 

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're hereo whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.


you are answering exactly like the op said people would do, the assault shotgun is a weapons Like many others but its true, it is a weapon with great damage and a lot of speed which makes.....that even my mom could kill me with it with one single shot in the chest,doesnt matter if i make 3 headshots with and assault rifle and if i am extremely more skill in the game, that Make it to unfair, but again as almost every object in mankind, the problem is not in it, thus in the use we make of them, i am not against people who use them when the situation requires it,i am against the ones WHO wins the death matches only using that single weapon....instead of grinding slowly to obtain skills

 

You do realize a DM is not a popularity contest or "Skill Pageant", right? So why shouldn`t they use anything that kills the fastest?

 

You know, a DM has only one goal = WIN. Just making sure you know. All you have to do is kill the other guy faster, with YOUR weapon of choice. So far, you`re just crying because they get too close to you, to actually use the shotty.. and that`s not THEIR fault.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:41 PM

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're here whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.

Even when it's on owned weapons I still use the Heavy Pistol, and the last time went up against people using Auto-Shotties, RPG and Miniguns in a DM I still got more kills than anybody else. 5 kills ahead of everybody else.

 

I'm looking for like minded shooters not teens that think auto-shotties and mniguns should be on DMs set on a farms. Away back to freemode to get run over by the high-piched kids in tanks.

 

As I said I'm all about headsots, not just autolock then blam - that got boring after the 1st week


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:42 PM

Meh, who cares? If it was a weapon system or some perk that the developers included in a game then why not take advantage of it? If we aren't meant to use it then they wouldn't of included it to begin with.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:42 PM

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're here whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.

This. Also it's funny that OP is liking the posts

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:44 PM Edited by A Maned Wolf, 23 March 2014 - 06:54 PM.

You guys do know that if any projectile strikes the head at any range, it counts as a OHK.

I've sniped people with the pump action simply cause one stray pellet found their head.

It just seems OP with the auto-shotgun cause of its high shell count and fast rof increases the chance of a head shot being made.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:46 PM

Yet another "my way of playing is right yours is wrong" thread.
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:52 PM

Okay cool, since you answered your own question, we can close this whining now. Thanks bro

I'll apologise in advance for this post.

 

There's only one thing that can stop this kind of whining, and that is .....

 

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:56 PM Edited by reiniat, 23 March 2014 - 07:00 PM.

 

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

Single bullet pistol headshots = Skill

 

Ok, youre definition of skill is wrong, LETS GET TECHNICAL!!

If you could plot the graphic of a player skill with a given weapon in function of how marginal is the weapon utility you would get a beautiful "s" shaped Gauss distribution curve.... RDR and Max Payne 3 have that.... GTA: Online weapons doesnt.

This is not about "my way of playing is better" this is about basic balance theory.... 

And in weapon balance theory GTA:O guns suck hard, i mean all the design should have been scrapped in the design board, nothing means any sense, specially guns like the autoshotgun or traits like the insta-headshosts..... I sometimes feel like this game was designed by an entire different software company that had no previous knowledge of multiplayer systems....

So yeah, you guys are wrong when you claim that the auto-shotgun is fine IF, and only IF you want the best player to win (duh!).

You guys do know that if any projectile strikes the head at any range, it counts as a OHK.

I've sniped people with the pump action simply cause one stray pellet found their head.

The shotguns in this game have no "pellets", they use a conical hit-scan projectile... How does it determine damage in function of range? I have no foocking idea, i ran a lot of tests and i got contradicting info, the autoshotgun can even one-shot people while NOT inside the reticle...

Im starting to believe that spread is not simulated within the cone, but instead the cone is affected by the spread like any standard vector based projectile.... But seriously, a developer needs to be really REALLY retarded to do that...

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:00 PM

 

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're hereo whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.


you are answering exactly like the op said people would do, the assault shotgun is a weapons Like many others but its true, it is a weapon with great damage and a lot of speed which makes.....that even my mom could kill me with it with one single shot in the chest,doesnt matter if i make 3 headshots with and assault rifle and if i am extremely more skill in the game, that Make it to unfair, but again as almost every object in mankind, the problem is not in it, thus in the use we make of them, i am not against people who use them when the situation requires it,i am against the ones WHO wins the death matches only using that single weapon....instead of grinding slowly to obtain skills

 

Absolutley Spot ON - No probs with people using it in Freemode, I play alot of Forced+Pickups, not cos I can't handle the heavy guns but more cos I like realism, see when I encounter people playing my DMs asking where the heavy guns are I laugh in there talentless ear. Usally what I've found is there the people that dislike it. Usally they have the lowest kill scores or the scores screen. But the good shooters always hit like and don't wait about to tell me "Good Job" or "That's a real mans DM"

 

I've killed 13,526 PLAYERS - 6,000 of them have been headshots. 3,218 Headshots with the Combat Pistol alone.

So go ahead make my day and call me rubbish.


Yet another "my way of playing is right yours is wrong" thread.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:01 PM Edited by A Maned Wolf, 23 March 2014 - 07:02 PM.

 

 

And what qualifies as skill, in your opinion? Running like a headless chicken, in your underwear, with only the broken bottle as a weapon?

Single bullet pistol headshots = Skill

 

Ok, youre definition of skill is wrong, LETS GET TECHNICAL!!

If you could plot the graphic of a player skill with a given weapon in function of how marginal is the weapon utility you would get a beautiful "s" shaped Gauss distribution curve.... RDR and Max Payne 3 have that.... GTA: Online weapons doesnt.

This is not about "my way of playing is better" this is about basic balance theory.... 

And in weapon balance theory GTA:O guns suck hard, i mean all the design should have been scrapped in the design board, nothing means any sense, specially guns like the autoshotgun or traits like the insta-headshosts..... I sometimes feel like this game was designed by an entire different software company that had no previous knowledge of multiplayer systems....

So yeah, you guys are wrong when you claim that the auto-shotgun is fine IF, and only IF you want the best player to win (duh!).

You guys do know that if any projectile strikes the head at any range, it counts as a OHK.

I've sniped people with the pump action simply cause one stray pellet found their head.

The shotguns in this game have no "pellets", they use a conical hit-scan projectile... How does it determine damage in function of range? I have no foocking idea, i ran a lot of tests and i got contradicting info, the autoshotgun can even one-shot people while NOT inside the reticle...

Im starting to believe that spread is not simulated within the cone, but instead the cone is affected by the spread like any standard vector based projectile.... But seriously, a developer needs to be really REALLY retarded to do that...

 

^ Or just f*cking cheap and lazy.

TBPH, GTA IV handled the weapons a lot better. (Cept for the Assault Shotgun in TLAD, that mess was stupid.)

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:02 PM

I don't use the auto-shotty and OP is a giant fa**ot.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:04 PM

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're here whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.

Even when it's on owned weapons I still use the Heavy Pistol, and the last time went up against people using Auto-Shotties, RPG and Miniguns in a DM I still got more kills than anybody else. 5 kills ahead of everybody else.
 
I'm looking for like minded shooters not teens that think auto-shotties and mniguns should be on DMs set on a farms. Away back to freemode to get run over by the high-piched kids in tanks.
 
As I said I'm all about headsots, not just autolock then blam - that got boring after the 1st week

It all makes sense now, OP plays in AA!
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:05 PM Edited by darkmaster234, 23 March 2014 - 07:07 PM.


 

If they are skill-less then you should kill them easily, but no, you're hereo whining. It's a weapon, R* it's not going to take it out, get over it.

you are answering exactly like the op said people would do, the assault shotgun is a weapons Like many others but its true, it is a weapon with great damage and a lot of speed which makes.....that even my mom could kill me with it with one single shot in the chest,doesnt matter if i make 3 headshots with and assault rifle and if i am extremely more skill in the game, that Make it to unfair, but again as almost every object in mankind, the problem is not in it, thus in the use we make of them, i am not against people who use them when the situation requires it,i am against the ones WHO wins the death matches only using that single weapon....instead of grinding slowly to obtain skills
 
You do realize a DM is not a popularity contest or "Skill Pageant", right? So why shouldn`t they use anything that kills the fastest?
 
You know, a DM has only one goal = WIN. Just making sure you know. All you have to do is kill the other guy faster, with YOUR weapon of choice. So far, you`re just crying because they get too close to you, to actually use the shotty.. and that`s not THEIR fault.

that shotgun kills very easy without being close.... First.....second....... You know thats a personal opinion of yours.... Nothing i can do about that.... But i dont care winning if i am going to do it like a pussy....for me its not about winning...its winning and f*cking the asses of the rest but legally, and in equal conditions,your great statement just justify those players that make a group of 3 vs 1 and not even happy with that just use bazookas and grenades.....lol......i just dont conceive this idea of just win no matter what....that also screw in others entertainment......i just cant feel pleasure winning as such a pussy brat,if i win it is going to be because the rest couldnt match me and thats what happens when i finish first... Your statement when you aply it you are just showing your inferiority to the rest.....needing of cheating to win.. :)
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