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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:16 PM Edited by iToor, 22 March 2014 - 08:18 PM.

Alright, I haven't been very active here on GTA Forums like the first few weeks when I first started. But when I logged back on, I say TONS of people complaining about Shark Cards, telling people not to buy them because thats what Rockstar wants, saying that Rockstar is just thirsty for some money. But heres the thing, what if they are collecting more money for more upcoming games? You are helping them out, you are probably helping the whole GTA series. So why complain about Shark Cards? If you don't wanna buy them, they don't, that doesn't mean that you have to go around telling people not to buy them because you get mad at the fact that the money goes to Rockstar, its all business. What if they are making the next GTA right now, without you even knowing. Do they need allot of money to make it? hell yeah they do

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:18 PM

They already have 1 billion dollars from selling the game. They won't want people to but Shark Cards to fund their new game.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:19 PM

They already have 1 billion dollars from selling the game. They won't want people to but Shark Cards to fund their new game.

Allright. Maybe that's not the reason, but you are helping the business and the game out


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

They definitely are not making the next gta yet

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:21 PM

Everyone complains on the internet. It would be alien to have flowers and teddy bears everywhere with everyone respecting each other. :*(


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:21 PM Edited by iToor, 22 March 2014 - 08:22 PM.

They definitely are not making the next gta yet

I said "what if" lol.. But true


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:23 PM

only a few people complain about shark cards, the rest make fun of it. If you were here on a daily basis, then you wouldn't have missed out on threads that involve shark cards. It's like a ritual here

 

 

I support shark cards cause they really do help out R* but I myself would never buy one. Too expensive...

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:23 PM Edited by Phyxsius-, 22 March 2014 - 08:24 PM.

Alright, I haven't been very active here on GTA Forums like the first few weeks when I first started. But when I logged back on, I say TONS of people complaining about Shark Cards, telling people not to buy them because thats what Rockstar wants, saying that Rockstar is just thirsty for some money. But heres the thing, what if they are collecting more money for more upcoming games? You are helping them out, you are probably helping the whole GTA series. So why complain about Shark Cards? If you don't wanna buy them, they don't, that doesn't mean that you have to go around telling people not to buy them because you get mad at the fact that the money goes to Rockstar, its all business. What if they are making the next GTA right now, without you even knowing. Do they need allot of money to make it? hell yeah they do

If I would have 100 trucks in my company and I suddenly find twice the amount of contracts, I will keep the same sh*tty minimum legal wage for the actual truckers and buy me 4 more houses and 5 more cars. 

 

If you THINK I won`t fire the next trucker that thinks he`s owed more than the dust on his hide and hire one of the 10 lined up to take his job, then you DO need to get out more. Feel free to think I am out to make money for yourself, or make your life easier... that`ll make MY life REALLY easier.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:24 PM

If you still need to ask that question, you don't understand the internet.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:25 PM Edited by iToor, 22 March 2014 - 08:25 PM.

If you still need to ask that question, you don't understand the internet.

I understand the internet completely.. I just don't understand some parts of it.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:25 PM

They already made $66 million of Cash Cards alone.

The constant threads are free advertising. Like, Rockstar didn't announce the mega shark card, they just released it. I'd have never known about it had someone not made a thread of it.

so yeah.
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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:26 PM

 

If you still need to ask that question, you don't understand the internet.

I understand the internet completely.. I just don't understand some parts of it.

 

Cash cards will only help Rockstar execs buy more houses and cars. Those money will NEVER translate into better content.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:26 PM

 

If you still need to ask that question, you don't understand the internet.

I understand the internet completely.. I just don't understand some parts of them.

 

That's quite the contradictory statement chap.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:28 PM

 

 

If you still need to ask that question, you don't understand the internet.

I understand the internet completely.. I just don't understand some parts of it.

 

Cash cards will only help Rockstar execs buy more houses and cars. Those money will NEVER translate into better content.

 

How would you know that? You work for Rockstar? or are you just making a wild guess?


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:31 PM

How would you know that? You work for Rockstar? or are you just making a wild guess?

Aren`t you an argumentative little something. You aren`t making a wild guess in your OP, are you now?


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:38 PM

 

How would you know that? You work for Rockstar? or are you just making a wild guess?

Aren`t you an argumentative little something. You aren`t making a wild guess in your OP, are you now?

 

I'm not tryna argue at all.. May sound like it, but I was just asking questions. And I didn't understand your question lol


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:39 PM

because the game freezes to much


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:40 PM Edited by G37, 22 March 2014 - 08:45 PM.

Alright, I haven't been very active here on GTA Forums like the first few weeks when I first started. But when I logged back on, I say TONS of people complaining about Shark Cards, telling people not to buy them because thats what Rockstar wants, saying that Rockstar is just thirsty for some money. But heres the thing, what if they are collecting more money for more upcoming games? You are helping them out, you are probably helping the whole GTA series. So why complain about Shark Cards? If you don't wanna buy them, they don't, that doesn't mean that you have to go around telling people not to buy them because you get mad at the fact that the money goes to Rockstar, its all business. What if they are making the next GTA right now, without you even knowing. Do they need allot of money to make it? hell yeah they do

 

The R&D for a video game is NOTHING like that of manufacturing a car for example. That amount of money or anything close to it is not necessary or even realistic. I can assure you their profit margin was mind-boggling. Time is the primary component. At the end of the day they're in the business of entertainment and they see opportunities to profit and ergo go after it. To a degree though there is some definite fault with R*. I won't deny that. We as customers can only hope they address these issues in the next installment and correct what they can during this run.

 

Here's the thing about your typical mind-set of the average gamer:

 

- Lazy

- Childlike (whines)

- Hypocritical (preach of glitching/cheating yet do it themselves/make issues worse)

- Want what they want when they want it

- Feel incredibly entitled

- Feel they know what they're talking about

- Find something to blame for a shortcoming (like Cash Cards, knock on them - some it's a running joke, some are actually serious)

- Incredibly cynical

- Have little ability to appreciate 

- Can't constructively criticize 

- Can't take constructive criticism

- Expect the world

- Disappointed far too easily/expect a flawless product

 

Don't believe me? Welcome to this forum, you must be new here. You will see a lot of invalid points, stupid opinions and nonsensical arguments. I'll give you some time to get adjusted.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:40 PM Edited by Flyby29, 22 March 2014 - 08:41 PM.

I don't usually complain but somethings are just so illogical

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:44 PM Edited by Phyxsius-, 22 March 2014 - 08:46 PM.

 

 

How would you know that? You work for Rockstar? or are you just making a wild guess?

Aren`t you an argumentative little something. You aren`t making a wild guess in your OP, are you now?

 

I'm not tryna argue at all.. May sound like it, but I was just asking questions. And I didn't understand your question lol

 

In your opinion, were those money well spent? We are still waiting for heists and stock market and we received about 10 new cars, 4-5 guns, some half assed missions and some lame clothes and make-up options. So, where ARE those money that you`re talking about?

 

And OF COURSE they already started making GTA 6, for which they`ll let FREE hype do their otherwise paid PR work, just as they did with THIS GTA. Nothing new, but that has already it`s funding set in stone, and that`s not your cash cards.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:49 PM

It's called hating, OP. Why people are hating on cash cards - since you know... you DON'T have to purchase any of them - is a better question.

 

Like I've said before, people who do purchase the CC's are players who either don't have the time to invest to the get money they need for their in-game purchases or players who don't want to grind the same missions over and over again.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:51 PM

Alright, I haven't been very active here on GTA Forums like the first few weeks when I first started. But when I logged back on, I say TONS of people complaining about Shark Cards, telling people not to buy them because thats what Rockstar wants, saying that Rockstar is just thirsty for some money. But heres the thing, what if they are collecting more money for more upcoming games? You are helping them out, you are probably helping the whole GTA series. So why complain about Shark Cards? If you don't wanna buy them, they don't, that doesn't mean that you have to go around telling people not to buy them because you get mad at the fact that the money goes to Rockstar, its all business. What if they are making the next GTA right now, without you even knowing. Do they need allot of money to make it? hell yeah they do

 

This.  Couldn't agree more.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:53 PM

People are giving good responses to this thread.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:07 PM

not just complaining about shark cards but complaining in gerneral :/ alot of posts i clik on in this forum theres sum 1 bitchin bout summet real pointless or doesent need to be said or reali isent the place.

swear sum peeps are on here just to bitch about every little fault about the game, if a game is pissin u of that much & theres so many faults and problems with it just dont play it :/ yh it as its down points as all games do, but if you luk at it from the bigger picture gta v is seriously sik game!

& yh peeps are probaly gettin bored & sayin theres nuffin to do bla bla bla, but after grinding it for how many months ur gonna get bored & luk for LITTLE fings that may let it down, but if u gonna bitch bout it, least offer up a solution or explain how they cud make it better, other wise your just 1 of the many bitchin in a online forum & people probaly skip your post anyways

 

anywaysssss bk to shark cards... hmmm i brought 1 once & i probaly wont use them again tbh, but that 1 time i did buy 1 think it as like £3 wich isent much it reali helped me out at the time.

rockstar is a huge company & they obv gota make as much money as possible to keep that going e.i payed staff, new projects all diffrent things plus they wanna make a reasonable profit on top of that, i think any 1 in there shoes woulda done the same & thought shark cards are a gd idea, they probaly havent made as much as they would like due to money glitches and stuff.

same with other games tho, take black ops u have to pay for there new map packs & u egt 4 new maps, in gta u buy shark cards & den u get what ever u wanna buy in the game

think its a bit pointless moaning about them when there completly optional lol


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:10 PM

Because so far, we've gotten:

 

-A gamemode that nobody plays or likes.

-Cars, clothes that very few wear, and guns.
-A limited content creator, along with verified jobs that suck.

-Two cash cards that costs more than the game itself. They're completely optional though...

 

Those things don't exactly extend the longevity of the game.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:56 PM

Because so far, we've gotten:

 

-A gamemode that nobody plays or likes.

-Cars, clothes that very few wear, and guns.
-A limited content creator, along with verified jobs that suck.

-Two cash cards that costs more than the game itself. They're completely optional though...

 

Those things don't exactly extend the longevity of the game.

 

The game is still young.  Give it time.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 10:00 PM

A thread complaining about complaining, awesome.

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#28

Posted 22 March 2014 - 10:12 PM

People are forgetting that Rockstar is the developer. Take Two is the business. They work alongside each other, but they aren't the same thing.

 

When people complain Rockstar are selling out by giving us micro-transactions and not better features for the game, they are getting all sorts of mixed up. Take Two control the money, they need to make money out of fans because they are a business, and the more money they make the more they can provide Rockstar to develop more games. 

 

Yes, they are making a huge amount out of selling the core game and then some more by micro-transactions through online, but do you think this enormous game and the marketing it had throughout the pre-release period would be possible without the big wallets they possess? 

 

Rockstar are the team behind the features we see, but if you work, you got to get paid, therefore Take Two financing them to do so (with our cash) is important if we want to see new GTAs now and in the future.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 10:24 PM Edited by Phyxsius-, 22 March 2014 - 10:26 PM.

People are forgetting that Rockstar is the developer. Take Two is the business. They work alongside each other, but they aren't the same thing.

 

When people complain Rockstar are selling out by giving us micro-transactions and not better features for the game, they are getting all sorts of mixed up. Take Two control the money, they need to make money out of fans because they are a business, and the more money they make the more they can provide Rockstar to develop more games. 

 

Yes, they are making a huge amount out of selling the core game and then some more by micro-transactions through online, but do you think this enormous game and the marketing it had throughout the pre-release period would be possible without the big wallets they possess? 

 

Rockstar are the team behind the features we see, but if you work, you got to get paid, therefore Take Two financing them to do so (with our cash) is important if we want to see new GTAs now and in the future.

Yes and no. It really depends how much liberty Rockstar has. I`ll elaborate:

 

Back in the day, Bioware started working on SWTOR before they were bought by EA. Even after they were bought, they still had 100% autonomy, in terms of what they want to do with their game ( http://www.escapistm...reative-Control ) . It was only when the game failed really hard that they started to go into full "EA Mode", with pretty much going full blown microtransactions.

 

So, the billion dollar question is: Is this slap in the face worth of missing content Rockstar`s, or TT`s decision, at the 6 months mark?

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 10:29 PM

Rock star is a sh*tty greedy company, and I won't be playing the next dumbass GTA if it is Tue same as 5.




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