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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:13 PM Edited by Mr Oraange, 22 March 2014 - 08:14 PM.

Fairly certain if, and when, aliens manage to arrive on Earth, the outcome will mirror how Columbus treated the American natives. 

No point in sending a representative. 

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:43 PM

 

 

 

I'm seeing a lot of name and not a lot of reasons behind them. I put the explain bit in bold, hoping you guys would catch on. ;)


My representative was a nuclear warhead but the reasoning was a bit lengthy. You want I should embolden three posts?
Good thing I said "not a lot", meaning, you know, few. If I can add to the debate, I was thinking and hoping to make it seem aliens would come to earth with no impression on us so we'd send someone to investigate/make us look friendly. Being wary of everything might be a human trait but we don't know if it's shared with other alien lifeforms...so keep that warhead hidden for now. :p

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In the scenario you laid out, the person responsible for first contact becomes responsible for ensuring the safety of the human race by extension with the distinct possibility the aliens are not friendlies. It's a hell of a burden, and when it comes down to brass tacks we must consider it may be us or them, that we must decide a course of action before we know the aliens intent, and our actions may have grave consequences.

 

Exactly why I asked the question, it is a huge load on someone to represent the whole of humanity so hopefully said person wouldn't show the aliens tentacle porn and say, "I'm sure you guys know about this" *nudge nudge*. Someone that has all the good attributes of humans which, over time, I found that there isn't many. Polite. Smart. Cautious yet confident. Someone that has those and establishes a friendly connection with the aliens would be a huge benefit to humans.

Didn't think I'd get so many varied responses from the silly down to the scientific. :)

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:09 PM

I think we should make Don King meet with the aliens. I mean sh*t, with hair like that, you can't go wrong!

 

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:26 PM

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Jesse Ventura is the obvious choice. Why?

 

He ain't got time to bleed.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:31 PM

Conan O'brien, maybe Aliens love jokes.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 10:06 PM

of course Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:27 AM

Fairly certain if, and when, aliens manage to arrive on Earth, the outcome will mirror how Columbus treated the American natives. 

No point in sending a representative. 

nope only humans would do that type of sh*t. 


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:29 AM

A jehovah's witness

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:41 AM

Neil Degrasse Tyson

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 02:08 AM

Fairly certain if, and when, aliens manage to arrive on Earth, the outcome will mirror how Columbus treated the American natives. 

No point in sending a representative. 

 

I'm sure if they one day arrive they won't feel the need to announce themselves..


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 02:56 AM

I say hand over Miley Cyrus, hopefully they'll take her and never come back.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:02 AM

Are Melchior and WBaker really debating the hypothetical resources of hypothetical alien life?

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:40 AM

Just look at what happened with the peaceful Glatun and how it led to the Horvath decimating civilizations. Nobody knew maple syrup would end up being a vital commodity for survival.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:46 AM

David Tennant, He IS an alien


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 04:17 AM

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, the only person smart enough for the aliens to not think we're a bunch of morons.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 04:26 AM

A jehovah's witness

You really do want to watch the world burn don't you. (really doe, no pun intended)

 

I'd send Stephen Hawking in the hopes that he'd either be able to woo them with his intelligence, or at least buy me time to fruitlessly get the f*ck outta Dodge.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 04:52 AM

I would send children with no knowledge of how the world works... so that they can see the future of human kind and not the nasty side adults create.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 04:53 AM

honestly if you really think about it they probably wouldn't want to see anyone other than Don Cheadle.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:20 AM

Maybe we should send the mod that will eventually lock this thread

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:31 AM

well, we definitley would not send you...


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:26 AM

Samuel L. Jackson. "I'm tired of these motherf*cking aliens on this motherf*cking planet!", then he would quote a line from the bible while killing them all in cold blood. He would spare the last one, and give him 1000 dollars, and then gve him a chilling monolouge about life, making the pussy alien fly back to whatever sh*thole he came from.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:09 AM Edited by D- Ice, 23 March 2014 - 08:10 AM.

For the representative, I'd just go myself. As narcissistic and cynical as this may sound, I don't now anyone else who I can trust to start direct dialogue with them properly.

And by 'properly' what I mean not claiming to represent the entirity of humanity nor giving them impression that they'd be welcome here - the very existance of Mexican "illegal aliens" despised by many in the US. How do you think actual aliens would be treated?

Some good first stepswould be to learn about each other's history and nature (it's highly likely they already studied Earth and Humans), and share some frank statements about each party's intentions and goals.

 

Would it make a difference? We'd appear too primitive that it wouldn't even matter: they'd probably find all us screaming, hyper-emotional apes to be equally useful for their purposes. We wouldn't need a representative anyway, they could just jump on the internet. 

Exactly, I completely agree. Also if they're advamced enough to make it all the way to Earth, chances are they won't be shallow and ignorant enough to judge allof humanity by what token representation the most powerful of us will send to represent the species.

 

 

 

There is a school of thought that it would prudent to immediately begin an attack, for all the good that will do us, as they will most likely be a far advanced civilization who have their eye on our planet for habitation or resources.  So I nominate our representative to be our largest yield nuclear warhead.

Resources? Yeah like their space ships will run on oil. 
 
If they can make it this far and take at all the super-organised, bloodthirsty monkeys that make things explode, they're basically perfect and we'd have nothing to offer them.

Oil is just one resource, they might want an easy supply of water, slave labor, minerals, or metals. They may just want to hunt us for sport. We don't know why they're here and they didn't have the decency to call ahead. Nuke em all.

 

These theoretical aliens are advanced enough to have successfully traveled all the way to Earth. Do you seriously think our biggest nukes are technologically equivalent to anything more than the spears Native Americans threw at gun-totting colonists before their annihilation? It will just give them casus belli to wipe the floor with out species.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:39 AM

have you people not seen mars attacks?

 

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:39 AM Edited by Nipperkins, 23 March 2014 - 08:44 AM.

I don't think we can say with any certainty how an alien species who have the capability to reach Earth from other solar systems and galaxies would act. Everything that defines our humanity is our evolution and our environment, things other species would not have experienced. Think how very different from us they could be? 

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:48 AM Edited by Coat., 23 March 2014 - 08:55 AM.

This man right here, I know he'll f*ck up on first impression and would be taken away ( hooray ) and at least when he gets to his new home he can go and invade all the countries he want and take there oil. 
 
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:52 AM

 

This man right here, I know he'll f*ck up on first impression and would be taken away ( hooray ) and at least when he gets to his new home he can go and invade all the countries he want and take there oil. 
 
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Why should I do that ? 


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:07 AM Edited by WBaker, 23 March 2014 - 09:08 AM.

Oil is just one resource, they might want an easy supply of water, slave labor, minerals, or metals. They may just want to hunt us for sport. We don't know why they're here and they didn't have the decency to call ahead. Nuke em all.

These theoretical aliens are advanced enough to have successfully traveled all the way to Earth. Do you seriously think our biggest nukes are technologically equivalent to anything more than the spears Native Americans threw at gun-totting colonists before their annihilation? It will just give them casus belli to wipe the floor with out species.


That is one of the reasons I advocate a preemptive first strike to catch them off-guard. We'll be at their total mercy later if they have superior firepower and defenses so we might as well try for a KO punch off the first bat. I can't think of a better analogy here but one Native American with the spear could slaughter an entire company of Spaniards if he caught them sleeping. We might lose, but at least we went down fighting.

I don't mean we should poke a hornet's nest by nuking one ship out of an entire fleet. The ability to resist the invasion at all is predicated on even a slight chance to render a single, or at least several relative quick, crippling blows to the aliens. As far as them being immune to nuclear weapons somehow, well, we won't know until we try.
 

I don't think we can say with any certainty how an alien species who have the capability to reach Earth from other solar systems and galaxies would act. Everything that defines our humanity is our evolution and our environment, things other species would not have experienced. Think how very different from us they could be?


Definitely. Communication may actually prove impossible. Unless the aliens brought along universal translators (and really, without a Rosetta stone, how is that going to work) or a babel fish, any kind of meaningful exchange certainly won't be an immediate thing if it ever happens.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:37 AM

aliens will be nice and we shouldn't kill them they can also maybe gives us superpowers and teach us things


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 11:12 AM

 

 

Oil is just one resource, they might want an easy supply of water, slave labor, minerals, or metals. They may just want to hunt us for sport. We don't know why they're here and they didn't have the decency to call ahead. Nuke em all.

These theoretical aliens are advanced enough to have successfully traveled all the way to Earth. Do you seriously think our biggest nukes are technologically equivalent to anything more than the spears Native Americans threw at gun-totting colonists before their annihilation? It will just give them casus belli to wipe the floor with out species.

 

That is one of the reasons I advocate a preemptive first strike to catch them off-guard. We'll be at their total mercy later if they have superior firepower and defenses so we might as well try for a KO punch off the first bat. I can't think of a better analogy here but one Native American with the spear could slaughter an entire company of Spaniards if he caught them sleeping. We might lose, but at least we went down fighting.

I don't mean we should poke a hornet's nest by nuking one ship out of an entire fleet. The ability to resist the invasion at all is predicated on even a slight chance to render a single, or at least several relative quick, crippling blows to the aliens. As far as them being immune to nuclear weapons somehow, well, we won't know until we try. 

Good point, but chances are they will be prepared. If they are intelligent and advanced enough to have the type of technology that it is estimated it will take us at least a millennium, chances are they will have the good sense to study us first and prepare themselves.

Of course, that is all based on human models of logical thought, and like Nipperins quite correctly said, there is no guarantee aliens would follow the same model. For all we know, aliens could simply arive in the form of giant self-replicating gas clouds with the intelligence of a cow, that simply float into the outer space close to Earth.

Regardless, in any case, I believe we have far more to lose than gain if we carry out pre-emptive attacks on them.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 11:41 AM Edited by Max, 23 March 2014 - 11:47 AM.

There is a school of thought that suggests first contact with aliens should be on a purely mathematical basis so that we can prove to them we're not entirely ignorant angry apes. There would be no common language or social cues and gestures which could form an initial form of dialogue, not even pointing is as intuitive as we think it is.

 

With this in mind I would like a leading mathematician or physicist to be the earth representative. This still presents problems, as again, our numbers will not translate into an alien language. But if this representative if prepared, they would be able to demonstrate theorems symbolically. For example by drawing a right angled triangle and communicating that we understand the Pythagoras Theorem, or by demonstrating Pi. Mathematical communication of this nature has/is being attempted, for example the 1974 Arecibo broadcast and I find all of this stuff fascinating. 

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