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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:55 PM Edited by zuckmeslow, 05 December 2014 - 01:56 AM.

some of us love gta v. some of us hate gta v. some of us think it is ok. but no matter what you think of gta v its not a perfect game. the map sucks. it just flat out sucks. if you honestly like the map, think to yourself, if you remove all the characters and npc, and you add rico rodriguez. then it would feel like just cause 3. not a gta game. 
 
liberty city while it was too small to capture the feel of new york city and jersey city, it still felt very detailed, with narrow roads, repair crews, and reasons to go to other parts of the map. it just felt nice and i cant expain it. but you know there was something magic about liberty city.
 
san andreas from gta san andreas, felt massive. and every city had different feel and there where reasons to make a trip from one to the other. 
 
but in gta v. the map sucks, it feels too empty and too cluttered at the same time. the city is clumped up in one corner and surrounded by mountains and empty fields. thats it. what is there to do in paleto bay? everything in paleto can be found in los santos. there is no reason to cross a boring highway to get to a boring ass town that has nothing interesting. and sandy shores is only exciting the first few times until you realize there is nothing unique about it. remember that bs about being treated differently depending where you went, they treated all three protags the same for me. 
 
los santos itself has certain nice parts but overall the downtown looks the same and is not exiting to look at or to even hang out in. the airport is a big nothing that is basically half the size of los santos. it all fells very generic and not like a gta game at all, if you told me that this was a beta map for the next sleeping dogs or just cause game i would believe it, but Grand theft auto? no way mofo sack. no interiors, no unique cities, boring desert and plains, mountains that take up disk space but dont add fun.
 
the map in general is not good to look at while traveling from one corner to the other, its very cluttered. why so many mountains.
 
 
 
look at the gta 4 map
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look at san andreas
 
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now look at gta v. everything is cluttered.
 
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there are no straight roads, no large forests, no variety. its a cluttered mess of mountains, open areas, copy and paste streets and underwater that no one cared about.
 
 
 
what we expected
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what we got
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what we expected
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what we got
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another thing i would like to add is if you look at gta 4's liberty city and you look at san andreas, there is something on every inch of the island. nothing is left open, san andreas is packed full of variety and the fact that it has only a small amount of empty space makes it feel huge. but if you look at gta v's map. there is so much negative space. weather its from mountains or open plains. there is basically nothing. it does not feel like a gta map. every gta map was full of things exept V

i would like to point out this map made by choco taco. This is what the map could have been. Great layout in the same size
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:57 PM Edited by stjimmy3, 19 March 2014 - 11:02 PM.

I ignored your entire post just so I can be the first to say...

 

 

Analheim 

 

You owe me an apology for insulting my doubting if that ridiculous theory. 

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:09 PM

So, any chance we can just re-pin the 'Official Complaints' thread to prevent this forum being flooded with copy 'n' paste crying topics?

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:11 PM

So, any chance we can just re-pin the 'Official Complaints' thread to prevent this forum being flooded with copy 'n' paste crying topics?

this is not a complaint. this is a discussion of a major problem. no one has ever said that gta v has a good map. this needs to be fleshed out that the map feels nothing like a gta game and we need to discuss that.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:15 PM

 

no one has ever said that gta v has a good map.

I'm afraid I'm going to require evidence to support this allegation, sir.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:16 PM Edited by Jimbatron, 19 March 2014 - 11:16 PM.

I totally disagree with the view that the map was bad. The scale of Lost Santos makes it the most lifelike R* city yet for me.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:16 PM Edited by SkyReaper2014, 19 March 2014 - 11:18 PM.

Um... the characters do get treated differently in different areas.  The rednecks in sandy shores have said some very racist things to franklin while the people in LS treat trevor sh*tty while respecting franklin/michael.

 

Walked down vespucci beach as trevor and heard more insults than in all my time in gtaf.

 

PS: Paleto bay isn't pointless to everybody. I find it rather beautiful and fun to walk around, but that is just me.

 

 

EDIT: My point, OP is wrong. I love the map in V as it is great.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:19 PM

 

 

no one has ever said that gta v has a good map.

I'm afraid I'm going to require evidence to support this allegation, sir.

 

look. i dont want to have a quote train here but the main problem is that gta v has a terrible map. of all the random complains every one mainly mentions the fact that the map is terrible. it has too many mountains or its too big, too small, too much ocean, looks nothing like the trailers, whatever whatever. the thing is that it sucks because the map IS boring and it DOES feel cluttered. this is not how gta is. the map of this game would fit something like just cause, sleeping dogs, or even a less cartoony saints row

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:24 PM Edited by Zodape, 19 March 2014 - 11:25 PM.

SA's map was crap. Only LS and the forest/rural area were good. The rest was crap.
LV? A highway that surrounds a big piece of flat boring crap.
The desert? Nothing memorable about it - crap.
SF? The worst. Small, with narrow roads. Barely any variation. Small vertically and horizontally. And grey - everything is grey. Not a dark gritty and deppressing grey like LC. Just grey. It's boring. It's crap.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:25 PM

OP is spot on. Rockstar fooled eveyone, whats the point of having a gigantic map with less detail then the smaller ones?
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:26 PM

The opening post, whilst eloquent and articulate, has only demonstrated to me that of the three maps presented, this is the best one:

 

 

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:26 PM

When I look at the GTA V map, I can't help but see this ninja turtle. Each time.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:29 PM

Just too many mountains..

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:30 PM

Just too many mountains..

SO MANY MOUNTAINS I FEEL CLAUSTROPHOBIC PLAYING THIS GAME.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:32 PM

They had big plans with the map, but due to limitations or tester's complainings or whatever the hell it was, they removed a lot of vegetation, details like trash cans and stuff in LS. If you compare the screens of Trailer 1 to Final you're gonna be very disappointed as how they cut most of the details.

 

IMO the map is fun to watch while driving, waterfalls and rivers are beatiful but not so fun to walk in, if you try to climb a mountain on foot, you're gonna be at least 5 minutes trying to get up half the mountain because you will trip every time everywhere. That's some annoying realism.

 

There are too many mountains and very few rural areas worth exploring in the way I see it.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:37 PM

In the last set of picture's I actually like V's better.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:40 PM

In the last set of picture's I actually like V's better.

That's an official V screenshot before release, I'm half sure that it looks a bit more deserted in final game, like most of those areas, but that dock still looks nice.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:43 PM

 

In the last set of picture's I actually like V's better.

That's an official V screenshot before release, I'm half sure that it looks a bit more deserted in final game, like most of those areas, but that dock still looks nice.

 

True but name one game that doesn't soup up it's screenshots before release. The area outside of LS seriously catches a lot of unfair hate IMO. 

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:48 PM

Naw, the hate is deserved. Everything outside of LS (excluding a few places) was...underwhelming to say the least.
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:49 PM

Have to say this is the most bullsh*t thread I've seen this year,

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:12 AM

Aww boo hoo you don't like the map. I love how you think the map sucks and that it's fact it does. Ever hear of opinions? How about you add a poll and see what other people think? And you're claustrophobic from gta 5? Pretty funny coming from someone who likes liberty city so much.
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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:16 AM Edited by Gregers08, 20 March 2014 - 12:21 AM.

I think it was a mistake to put nothing at the north side of the map, the reason the countryside worked in San Andreas was because there were more cities on the other side which made the trip seem worth it.

 

The clearest way to show that R* messed up is to hop onto GTAO, you will very rarely find people at the north side of the map everyone just stays in the city. I'm sure if there was a smaller city maybe like a San Diego knockoff where paleto bay is people would have spread across the map better as there would be something worthwhile on either side of the map.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:29 AM

Another thing worth mentioning in regards to Red Dead Redemption's map feeling more sprawling: the surrounding mountains in RDR were much, much smaller in size and height than those in V, making them less visable and imposing, further thus making the world feel larger due to the limited far-off distances that can be seen. If the hills in Mexico were to the scope of Chilliad, believe me, standing in Armadillo looking down at them would give off a much smaller perspective of the maps size.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

Aww boo hoo you don't like the map. I love how you think the map sucks and that it's fact it does. Ever hear of opinions? How about you add a poll and see what other people think? And you're claustrophobic from gta 5? Pretty funny coming from someone who likes liberty city so much.

i like liberty city because im a new yorker first and secondly its not surrounded by unclimbable mountains that box you in as you try to drive from south to north. and your opinion is welcome just like mine. and my opinion is that the map sucks and it should have been used for the next destroy all humans game instead. not for the king of open world games

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:36 AM

 

So, any chance we can just re-pin the 'Official Complaints' thread to prevent this forum being flooded with copy 'n' paste crying topics?

no one has ever said that gta v has a good map. 

 

GTA V has a good map.

 

Well, will you look at that!?

 

Anyway, I stopped reading your post after the 4th sentence.

 

"but no matter what you think of gta v the map sucks."

 

Nope. Nice try projecting your opinion as fact though.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:47 AM

I agree. It's something about the map that I can't quite put my finger on...maybe it's the gameplay? I feel like I'm always zooming too fast through the streets to appreciate anything. In IV I felt like I knew every alley way, building front and damn hot dog cart. 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:49 AM

Personally, I believe the map is amazing. I actually enjoy the mountains. The mountains give us more open space to do stunts.
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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:51 AM

I stopped reading at "rico rodriguez", but the pictures are nice.  ;)

 

SA's map is outdated, so there's no point talking about it. I love V's map, IV's map, and RDR's. The map is the one area I rarely have a problem with when it comes to R*. The map is also the one area I have to agree about last gen console limitations. I'm glad there is a wilderness, but R* could only do so much. RDR makes GTA V's wilderness look like last last gen. 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:52 AM

I agree. It's something about the map that I can't quite put my finger on...maybe it's the gameplay? I feel like I'm always zooming too fast through the streets to appreciate anything. In IV I felt like I knew every alley way, building front and damn hot dog cart. 

i think it may be because in gta 4 every street was different but in gta v alot of the streets look the same and have no distinguishable features to tell some of them apart. like the area where michael lives is very confusing because the streets look the same and i always miss the turn


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:58 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 20 March 2014 - 12:58 AM.

 

I agree. It's something about the map that I can't quite put my finger on...maybe it's the gameplay? I feel like I'm always zooming too fast through the streets to appreciate anything. In IV I felt like I knew every alley way, building front and damn hot dog cart. 

i in gta 4 every street was different

Lolno. Not at all

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