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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:13 PM

Didn't read. San Andreas is still number 1 after being released 10 years ago on the far inferior PS2.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:25 PM

Since I don't read forum posts over three paragraphs long, I'll just state my opinion.

 

I prefer V over IV. I would also take SA and maybe VC over IV. 

I liked IV, I really did, but it was so limited. The map was bland and so much smaller than what I was hoping for, and the overall feel was gloomy. The story was ok, but there was very little variety in missions, and the 'sandbox' had very few toys to play with. Driving and shooting is a huge part of GTA, but there comes a point where it gets old and you want other options. IV didn't provide them.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:22 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 15 March 2014 - 06:26 PM.

@LSPD
Lol my phone is so sh*t it takes me alot of time to type,btw how do i hate Other Openworld Games? i literally have played many OWGs than any other Genre,but many of them are straight up
"GTA Clones" while others despite being labelled "GTA Clones" offers different experiences...My last post before you reply,i said IV and V were Great and Masterpiece,but V is my favourite,and they both have their own Pros and Cons (Flaws).
Afterall we all have our opinion,and imo V is a masterpiece and if you dont like it then i dont care.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:25 PM

@LSPD
Lol my phone is so sh*t it takes me alot of time to type,btw how do i hate Other Openworld Games? i literally have played many OWGs than any other Genre,but many of them are straight up
"GTA Clones" while others despite being labelled "GTA Clones" offers different experiences...My last post before you reply,i said IV and V were Great and Masterpiece,but V is my favourite,and they both have their own Pros and Cons (Flaws).

Wow, "flaws" is a pretty big word for you huh, buddy? It's amazing how fast you kids grow up nowadays.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:28 PM


@LSPD
Lol my phone is so sh*t it takes me alot of time to type,btw how do i hate Other Openworld Games? i literally have played many OWGs than any other Genre,but many of them are straight up
"GTA Clones" while others despite being labelled "GTA Clones" offers different experiences...My last post before you reply,i said IV and V were Great and Masterpiece,but V is my favourite,and they both have their own Pros and Cons (Flaws).

Wow, "flaws" is a pretty big word for you huh, buddy? It's amazing how fast you kids grow up nowadays.

What? What? What? :O sorry i dont get you reply?

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:36 PM Edited by Shoumic, 15 March 2014 - 06:40 PM.

There's no debate to discuss. GTA IV is better and anyone who disagrees can kiss my ass.

I'll give you that.

 

But SA beats IV. 

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:37 PM

@LSPD
Lol my phone is so sh*t it takes me alot of time to type,btw how do i hate Other Openworld Games? i literally have played many OWGs than any other Genre,but many of them are straight up
"GTA Clones" while others despite being labelled "GTA Clones" offers different experiences...My last post before you reply,i said IV and V were Great and Masterpiece,but V is my favourite,and they both have their own Pros and Cons (Flaws).
Afterall we all have our opinion,and imo V is a masterpiece and if you dont like it then i dont care.

Good comment bro. /s

 

One question, where are you from? It looks like English is not your first language.

 

 

Afterall we all have our opinion,and imo V is a masterpiece and if you dont like it then i dont care.

But you do care. That's why you replied to me. 

You dislike other open world games. You are a self-confessed GTA fanboy, after all. ;)

 

Now, tell me what you think about the one minute missions like "masks" and "boiler suits". Are they "action-packed"? Are they "popularising"? :lol:

GTA IV had 95+ missions, for one protagonist, whilst V only has 69, for three protags!

 

GTA V is a good game, infact, it is game of the year (2013) for me, but it is not a masterpiece. 

Both GTA IV and V have flaws.

 

In terms of story, GTA IV wins, but in terms of gameplay, GTA V wins.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:38 PM

 

 

@LSPD
Lol my phone is so sh*t it takes me alot of time to type,btw how do i hate Other Openworld Games? i literally have played many OWGs than any other Genre,but many of them are straight up
"GTA Clones" while others despite being labelled "GTA Clones" offers different experiences...My last post before you reply,i said IV and V were Great and Masterpiece,but V is my favourite,and they both have their own Pros and Cons (Flaws).

Wow, "flaws" is a pretty big word for you huh, buddy? It's amazing how fast you kids grow up nowadays.

What? What? What? :O sorry i dont get you reply?

That's not the only thing you don't get....

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:44 PM

I would have said V hands down a month ago but I recently played IV and I realize it is such a great game and recieved a lot of unfair hate. I also happen to think V is a great game that gets a lot of unfair hate so I can't really decide. 


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:51 PM

I would have said V hands down a month ago but I recently played IV and I realize it is such a great game and recieved a lot of unfair hate. I also happen to think V is a great game that gets a lot of unfair hate so I can't really decide. 

IV has a better story.

V has better gameplay.

 

Your preference depends on what you like most from a game, either the story, or the gameplay.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:54 PM

 

I would have said V hands down a month ago but I recently played IV and I realize it is such a great game and recieved a lot of unfair hate. I also happen to think V is a great game that gets a lot of unfair hate so I can't really decide. 

IV has a better story.

V has better gameplay.

 

Your preference depends on what you like most from a game, either the story, or the gameplay.

 

But I like the gameplay and story in both. It depends on if I feel like playing in an urban jungle or in a sunny city and a lot of open space. That seems to change with each day.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:58 PM Edited by FranklinDeRoosevelt, 15 March 2014 - 06:58 PM.

 

I would have said V hands down a month ago but I recently played IV and I realize it is such a great game and recieved a lot of unfair hate. I also happen to think V is a great game that gets a lot of unfair hate so I can't really decide. 

IV has a better story.

V has better gameplay.

 

Your preference depends on what you like most from a game, either the story, or the gameplay.

 

No that is pure bullsh*t. If someone likes both, then is he retarded? No. There's something called an opinion. That person can like whatever they want. I like both, because I know open world games kind of require very hard work to create a great story. IV's story is better IMO but I still like V's.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:02 PM Edited by Los Santos Police Department, 15 March 2014 - 07:03 PM.

 

 

I would have said V hands down a month ago but I recently played IV and I realize it is such a great game and recieved a lot of unfair hate. I also happen to think V is a great game that gets a lot of unfair hate so I can't really decide. 

IV has a better story.

V has better gameplay.

 

Your preference depends on what you like most from a game, either the story, or the gameplay.

 

That person can like whatever they want. 

That is pretty much what I was saying. :lol:

 

People can prefer either V or IV, or like both equally, and that's fine by me. I like both games.

 

All I was saying is that the gameplay and story matter in an open world game, and that some story lovers will prefer IV because it has a better story, while gameplay loving fans might prefer V for its gameplay. :)

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:05 PM

VC for dat atmosphere.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 08:37 PM Edited by GrifterSix, 15 March 2014 - 09:27 PM.

I do not believe it appropriate to compare the protagonists of GTA5 or even the game itself to the compilation of GTA4, LATD and BOGT. I understand the appeal of such a comparison since it makes good math sense. The reality is however that GTA5 to date has provided only the main campaign and no one yet knows what DLC may still come. To attempt to compare GTA 4 AND its additional content to a singular campaign seems lopsided and does not account for all the extra time for development and for the perspective advantage of hindsight developers gain when creating DLC. I contend that GTA 5 far exceeds its predecessor in all regards. I will attempt to illustrate my argument in a fair and impartial manner and hopefully some will agree.


The worlds of GTA 4 and 5 are vastly different. From their ambiance to the technicalities that define them, each world takes its own flavor and presents the player with it own unique experience. GTA4 was a vast departure from its predecessors namely Vice City and San Andreas. Gone were the bright palettes that invigorated the previous worlds and we dived into a grittier and more realistic setting. At first I was excited about the change but the more I played GTA 4 the more I realized how much I missed the other 2 games. Niko was a dry character, and though acceptable he was neither particularly charismatic nor memorable in himself. GTA 4's attempt to grow up left us with cars that failed to capture the same fun and excitement of VC or SA and instead reverted the the duller days of GTA 3. The very selling point that first excited me about GTA4 became its detriment. Simply put GTA 4 took itself too seriously and as a result sacrificed fun. For those that may disagree Ill point out that that GTA's main competitor Saints Row noticed this and decided to go the other way and because SR was FUN and Crazy it distinguished itself as more than just a GTA clone but as real competitor. To its Credit R* noticed their flaws and moved to correct them cleverly by focusing on the much more fun and nimble motorcylces in TLAD and returning to its more colorful vibe in BOGT. GTA5 is a marked return to the formula that made them great. They took all they learned from GTA4 and then seemed to ask themselves "How do we deliever something on par to our greastest successes?" If sales are any indicators they succeeded.


The characters are a big point to most people. Here is where things get a little murky, allow me to show you how I see it. As I previously mentioned I found Niko both dull and generic. The saving grace of GTA 4 was a fantastic supporting cast that allowed Niko to almost skate by. The cast of the DLC was by far more engaging than the actual main game. Riding high on the smash hit SON of ANARCHY, TLAD allowed a lot of us to get an even closer peek into an MC world. This was both socially relevant and extremely clever. Likewise the BOGT not only gave us some of the best characters in GTA but put the spotlight on a oddly likable Gay character and a minority usually overlooked in Games in the form of Dominican Luis. Combined with a both fun and funny experience BOGT simply rocked. Still it has to be pointed out that GTA4 came out 4/2008 and TLAD /BOGT came out 2/09 - 10/09 respectively. Thats an additional 10 to 18 months of additional development time. GTA5 had some interesting NPC but I think in general fell short in this department. What they did do however was allow for 3 protagonist ea ch living intricate and vastly different lives. It was alot of fun swapping from one to another and finding them in odd situations. The novelty soon wore of but the mechanic was fantastic and will likely be explored further in future entries. The point being what they lacked in NPC they gave us in Playable characters. M/T/F were all nuanced characters that truly require you to be an adult to fully appreciate. Whatever further DLC comes out will have to be weighed but when Campaign is compared to Campaign GTA5 simply shines not only because of its compelling nuanced characters but also because of its scope.


The scope of the story matters. In SA you went from a hood to a Boss. In VC you go from a newcomer to a Mogul. In GTA4 I never got the impression I was anything more than muscle. We play as a thug although a very competent one that never reaches or aspires for any plateau. There was no journey of ascension for Niko, no fall from grace but rather a very stoic static status quo. Niko simply dealt with whatever issues presented themselves and returned to his life with very little change for his efforts. In my opinion this was not very gratifying. In GTA5 We see the Rise of Franklin , the chaos of Micheal's mid life and financial crisis and the decent into madness that is Trevor Philips. Each one is unique, each one a journey. Ultimately I found them considerably more fun.


I remember my first impression of GTA4. Let us remember that GTA 4 was the first real entry since our man CJ roamed Grove Street. You know what I thought? I thought man this game looks great. Then the deeper I got into it the more and more upset I got. Gone were the all the neat little things that made GTA that much more awesome. There were no more planes , no more gyms or fight schools. No more were there crazy runs thru the city in cars that let you drive them like you stole them. In GTA 4's defense it was breaking new ground and setting the foundation for the HD era. Still it was a shocking change. GTA 5 still has a ways to go in returning all those neat features but is a decisive move in the right direction. Planes are back. Dynamic events occur in the campaign such as robberies and cop chases. Property ownership returned with a more prominent importance. Vehicles were tuned to allow a more accessible and fun experience. Lets hope GTA5's DLC and GTA6 continue to build on this.


And of course online must be considered. Ill be the first to say GTA O makes me want to pull hairs out sometimes. Cops are too aggressive. Heist are missing. Free mode is a breeding ground for tanks and trolls alike. But here is the thing, its fun. There is enough diversity to please most and enough freedom for players to created their own entertainment. Some people will hold on to GTA 4's online because that were they did well, but frankly there is no comparison. The support and potential of GTAO far exceeds anything GTA4 had managed. It also provides Rockstar one major advantage. When all the DLCs are out and the next thing to look forward to is GTA 6 , GTAO still has the greater potential to have kept people engaged and of keeping both R* and the GTA brand on the forefront of peoples mind. GTAO if managed well has longevity on its side.


In closing not only is GTA 5 a better looking game. Not only is GTA 5 a technically better performing game. Not Only is GTA 5 a better selling game, a more polished experience, a more adult centric adventure with more nuanced characters and richer in all the small elements that had been removed in GTA4 . GTA 5 is the transition vehicle to next gen for R*. They are learning all they can so GTA6 will be ready for this new generation. As a result GTA 5 will remain more supported and more cared for because R* knows whats at stake. Gamers are fickle, they will leave you. R* will continue to work the bugs out of GTA 5 and try to keep gamers happy because they know most of us are saving our pennies for the new gen and they also know we will remember. Other Sandboxes will emerge and they want theirs to be the best and that begins with GTAO. Oh yeah and GTA 5 is IMHO just simply more fun.
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 08:52 PM


It is proven by the fact that each and every major GTA release turns the entire fanbase into complete and utter hypocrites! They always cling to the last major release and totally bitch about the new one because they are like old people that despise change. 

 

Couldn't have said it any better.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:06 PM

 


It is proven by the fact that each and every major GTA release turns the entire fanbase into complete and utter hypocrites! They always cling to the last major release and totally bitch about the new one because they are like old people that despise change. 

 

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

I agree with him as well and it's sad because it wasn't like that in the 3d era. People were able to appreciate III, VC and SA on their own merits but the HD games get nitpicked to death and always compared to other games. 

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:19 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 15 March 2014 - 11:22 PM.


 



It is proven by the fact that each and every major GTA release turns the entire fanbase into complete and utter hypocrites! They always cling to the last major release and totally bitch about the new one because they are like old people that despise change. 

 
Couldn't have said it any better.
 
I agree with him as well and it's sad because it wasn't like that in the 3d era. People were able to appreciate III, VC and SA on their own merits but the HD games get nitpicked to death and always compared to other games. 
This.......just This :)

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:53 PM

Didn't read.

 

Ok. I prefer not to be confrontational, but I think this needs to be said.

 

I'm 34. This "Didn't read" response is relatively new, and imho, it's from the current teenage generation. It smacks of arrogance. "I know I'm right, so why bother to listen to anyone else" is effectively what you are saying. Ask me to be more concise, read what I've written and dissect it until the cows come home - fine.

 

I say this for your own good. This kind of arrogance may feel like you are sounding cool for now, but if you walk in to a job with an attitude like that you will be destroyed in a matter of minutes.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:01 AM

Well his username is capitalist communist, I think that says it all lol.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:02 AM


Didn't read.

 
Ok. I prefer not to be confrontational, but I think this needs to be said.
 
I'm 34. This "Didn't read" response is relatively new, and imho, it's from the current teenage generation. It smacks of arrogance. "I know I'm right, so why bother to listen to anyone else" is effectively what you are saying. Ask me to be more concise, read what I've written and dissect it until the cows come home - fine.
 
I say this for your own good. This kind of arrogance may feel like you are sounding cool for now, but if you walk in to a job with an attitude like that you will be destroyed in a matter of minutes.

Lol that why i ignore annoying kids like him,his last reply to me i didnt bother replying Lol :)

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:05 AM Edited by Official General, 16 March 2014 - 03:20 AM.

So, what’s my verdict?

 

Let me put it like this. My Football team is Coventry City (please don’t laugh). I love them because they are my team, and I would rather watch them than Barcelona. However, it would be plain daft for me to refuse to acknowledge that Barcelona are a more technically skilled team, and if City aren't playing, a Champions League match would still be an entertaining prospect.

 

It is the same for GTA. I think IV is my favourite (Cops ‘n Crooks and the longer stories swing it), and it probably always will be. However, whatever my preference, I don’t think I can refuse to acknowledge V is technically a better game. It has a bigger, detailed, more real feeling city, with more vehicles, people models, better graphics and is a step forward in many respects. Hopefully VI will combine the best of both (and maybe they’ll add CnC to V!)

 

With exception of a few aspects, we all know that for most part, GTA V is technically a better game than GTA IV. No one is arguing against that. But regardless of all that, I just don't see V as a much of a great step forward from IV, I just cannot agree with you saying that it is. 

 

V's shocking, relative lack of interiors, almost non-existent crime-related side missions, and short storyline really makes the game lose marks from me. And while sunny, bright LS looked more visually polished and detailed than LC, I still preferred the gritty, dark feel, look and atmosphere of LC, it just felt more real and vibrant to me. I also felt that IV had better weapons and much better gunshot sounds/effects than V did. 

 

V does indeed have it's pros over IV, but to be honest. IV has some very important advantages over V that render V more or less on the same level as IV in terms of which was the overall better game. In my view at least anyway. V certainly took some great steps forward, but it took one too many a step backward, and that is what stops me from saying it is overall better than IV, because right now at this stage, I just don't think it is. I really thought V would blow IV out of the water, but I'd be lying if I said it did. 

 

I actually personally prefer IV+EFLC over V, and I never believed I'd be saying this a year ago. 

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:23 AM

Since I don't read forum posts over three paragraphs long, I'll just state my opinion.

Your opinion is irrelevant when you don't even bother to read the original post. You refuse to read anything over three paragraphs? Sir, are you 12?


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:28 AM Edited by Andreas, 16 March 2014 - 08:39 AM. Removed quote-train.

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If change meant an utterly despicable, stupid, wasteful protagonist like Trevor and a bullsh*t and boring theme for the story about doing dirty work for federal agents and government agents, then I will gladly say I don't want it in V's case. 
 
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The III-era games actually progressed in a major way, further developed and took great steps forward the whole time with each new release,. Look at III, VC and SA. there was no step backwards, it was all forward moving with great progression. In the HD-era there was great progression and significant regression at the same time with both IV and V, but more in V's case. 
 
That is the difference between the III-era and the HD-era, which should make it more clearer to you.
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:16 AM

IV vs V?

 

hmmm, both have their good things and their bad things, if you don't like one of them then just play the other one, the only debate that must be had is whether R* is going to follow IV or V's path for the next game.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:34 AM Edited by SonOfLiberty, 16 March 2014 - 04:35 AM.

It is proven by the fact that each and every major GTA release turns the entire fanbase into complete and utter hypocrites! They always cling to the last major release and totally bitch about the new one because they are like old people that despise change.

 
Couldn't have said it any better.
I agree with him as well and it's sad because it wasn't like that in the 3d era. People were able to appreciate III, VC and SA on their own merits but the HD games get nitpicked to death and always compared to other games.
 
@ The TechPotatoChip
 
If change meant an utterly despicable, stupid, wasteful protagonist like Trevor and a bullsh*t and boring theme for the story about doing dirty work for federal agents and government agents, then I will gladly say I don't want it in V's case. 
 
@ woggleman
 
The III-era games actually progressed in a major way, further developed and took great steps forward the whole time with each new release,. Look at III, VC and SA. there was no step backwards, it was all forward moving with great progression. In the HD-era there was great progression and significant regression at the same time with both IV and V, but more in V's case. 
 
That is the difference between the III-era and the HD-era, which should make it more clearer to you.
I know this will make me sound biased, but I think GTA IV should be given more leniency than GTA V. It was the first GTA of the 7th generation and made significant changes to the core gameplay with technology R* were still wrapping their heads around.

Of course that doesn't excuse everything, but it was the first so obviously it still had kinks in it to be ironed out. I've always believed the reason planes weren't in GTA IV wasn't the size of the map or 9/11, but the physics being difficult to work with for example.

To me GTA V shouldn't be given much leniency at all. I've noticed some GTA V fans typically blame "console limitations" on some of its short comings, but it's a sketchy excuse at best.

No one expected GTA V to be perfect or to have everything from the previous games, but IMO it's only better in areas that a newer game should be. I still prefer things about GTA IV (like the side missions) that I feel GTA V dropped the ball on.
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:48 AM Edited by darkwar854, 16 March 2014 - 04:49 AM.

Here is how it goes as far as features in the 3d games.

 

 

III, IV, VC, SA, V

 

The reason SA is below V is because even though it has better features, it is less in depth with them than V is.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:49 AM

There's no debate to discuss. GTA IV is better and anyone who disagrees can kiss my ass.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:57 AM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 16 March 2014 - 05:08 AM.

IV vs V?
 
hmmm, both have their good things and their bad things, if you don't like one of them then just play the other one, the only debate that must be had is whether R* is going to follow IV or V's path for the next game.

then that brings out the Controversial question,with next-gen is GTA Getting a complete reboot (God Forbid)?.......which i dont see happen since V was universally successful and acclaimed,it won many awards got nominated for many other and it was a Record-breaker game to the Entertainment (Gaming Industry),if anything i will say next-gen GTAs will all be subtitled and we wouldnt see the number VI (6) for a long time.Afterall that what most franchises (series)-Old or New,are doing with the PS4 and XboxOne
i.e.Instead of Infamous3 it Infamous:SS,MGS 5 it MGS 5:GZ and then MGS 5: Phanthom Phain.so i see the same with GTA and Red Dead (even though RD isnt an old franchise like GTA and only began in 2004).

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:00 AM Edited by DrAnomalous, 16 March 2014 - 05:03 AM.

I'll keep it short. GTA IV has less but it does the things it does have better. GTA V feels like it was made by people that couldn't agree with each other. A lot of questionable decisions in a series that will wow you with tiny details, this one disappoints you with some it's tiny details. No one thing is game breaking. . . well apart for the driving for many of us, but a lot of these smaller details will come together to make you think to yourself, "WTF were they thinking?!" 

 

I get the suspicion that GTA IV was made with little to no input from the fanbase and that made it a better game, a lets just make our game and give it our best shot kind of attitude. Then I get the feeling that GTA V was bogged down by fan wishlists and complaints because it looks unbalanced and packed with poorly implemented ideas that have either been removed through patches, given a cheap duct tape style fix, or are still present.  

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