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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:38 PM Edited by Capitalist Communist, 15 March 2014 - 06:22 PM.

Who the f*ck needs a casino when you have yoga? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want gambling instead of watching Michael do yoga.

 

 

 

EDIT: This is called sarcasm for those of you who may be a bit slow up top. Second EDIT: Up top means your head, what I'm basically trying to say is you're f*cking dumb.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Hopefully, and then I hope they put the focus on player vs. player gambling, however things like slotmachines and horse racing would also be fun.

 

I hope the casino opens up soon, it only makes sense.

I have feeling that the heist DLC is gonna cost money though, it would be pointless for people to buy cash cards if they can do heists. That's why I unfortunately believe you will have to buy the heist package.

If the Heists DLC will cost money, I and many others will seriously be pissed. With the GTA Online trailer, they advertised Heists as if they would be in the game day one, and they weren't. Now we still don't have it, and if it will be paid DLC R* would lose all respect they've earned from a lot of people.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Who the f*ck needs a casino when you have yoga? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want gambling instead of watching Michael do yoga.

My thoughts exactly.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:59 PM

 

Who the f*ck needs a casino when you have yoga? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want gambling instead of watching Michael do yoga.

My thoughts exactly.

 

One word: 

Fun


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:09 PM

It would give me something to blow my load on. :lol:

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:18 PM

 

 

Who the f*ck needs a casino when you have yoga? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want gambling instead of watching Michael do yoga.

My thoughts exactly.

 

One word: 

Fun

 

I think you missed the joke.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:18 PM

 

 

Who the f*ck needs a casino when you have yoga? I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want gambling instead of watching Michael do yoga.

My thoughts exactly.

 

One word: 

Fun

 

You do know I was being sarcastic right? f*ck fat Mike, f*ck his wife, f*ck his kids, f*ck his maid and his f*cking invisible dog and last but not least f*ck YOGA!!


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:19 PM

Do the audio files really confirm that there will be an open casino, or maybe it was cut and those files were left over?

 

Either way, I do want poker. I dumped a lot of time into it in RDR. 


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:40 PM

With the way things are looking for the heists, I wouldn't expect the casino until 2015. Absolutely ridiculous that in a game centred around money and robbery, there's no f*cking casinos or heists at launch (especially since they had 5 years to make this game, and for the casino all they have to do is copy and paste code from RDR).


This is why I say they're going to charge money for the DLC, not to be a dick, but that they have an ulterior motive for holding it back.

Your right, they still have the codes from RDR.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:05 PM

I dont know what is it with people saying that R* will make you pay for heists...


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 08:50 PM

I dont know what is it with people saying that R* will make you pay for heists...


I don't know what's with you being in denial. All those cheesy free DLCs must have gotten to you...

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:02 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 15 March 2014 - 09:04 PM.

 

I dont know what is it with people saying that R* will make you pay for heists...


I don't know what's with you being in denial. All those cheesy free DLCs must have gotten to you...

 

Lolwat?

 

Being in denial about what?

 

The fact that you seem to think it's confirmed that R*'s going to commit business retardation by charging for something that should've been in the game at launch? Even though they did the exact opposite with the other thing that was supposed to be in at launch?

 

No, you're just delusional and trying to make something out of nothing.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:07 PM

 

I dont know what is it with people saying that R* will make you pay for heists...


I don't know what's with you being in denial. All those cheesy free DLCs must have gotten to you...

 

Cheesy or not, they were free. So how is he in denial when you are clearly bullsh*tting? Even if it's going to cost, do you really think it's going to cost more than $7.99? No.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

Oh it's not confirmed but it's gonna happen.
Sure, you can bash me all you want, but when they release the price of the DLC, I'm gonna come back here and throw it in your face. I won't stop either.

What do you think the reason is for not releasing it already? Polishing up? Refinement? I bet.

No more than $7.99?
Shouldn't be no more than $0.
But that's why they're going to do it, because you'll STILL buy it.

They'll make another 20 million from DLC sales.

How is that business retardation again?

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:17 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 15 March 2014 - 11:20 PM.

Oh it's not confirmed but it's gonna happen.

 

... :panic:

How is that business retardation again?

I really need to explain it to you? Fine.

 

R* advertises heists pre-release. People expect heists pre-release. There are no heists at release.

 

Fans are pissed. The longer heists aren't out, the more fans are pissed, and they get continually more pissed.

 

You really think R*'s gonna come out and be like: "Hey guys, we know we had you wait 6+ months for this thing we advertised to be in the game at release, and we know you're all pissed, so we're gonna piss you off even more by announcing the price of this DLC at X price! We hope you all enjoy!"

 

No. That's literally retarded. They would lose so much respect and business it's not even funny.

 

Business retardation.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:55 AM

Hopefully, and then I hope they put the focus on player vs. player gambling, however things like slotmachines and horse racing would also be fun.

 

I hope the casino opens up soon, it only makes sense.

I have feeling that the heist DLC is gonna cost money though, it would be pointless for people to buy cash cards if they can do heists. That's why I unfortunately believe you will have to buy the heist package.

If the Heists DLC will cost money, I and many others will seriously be pissed. With the GTA Online trailer, they advertised Heists as if they would be in the game day one, and they weren't. Now we still don't have it, and if it will be paid DLC R* would lose all respect they've earned from a lot of people.

I think cash cards are there so we get free online content and won't have to pay for things like the heist update. Even though R* have been slow they have added quite allot which would have probably been paid DLC in any other game. I think the cash cards work out for a better alternative since R* can still profit from people who want more gta cash instead of asking everyone to cough up money for new content.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:57 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 01:01 AM.

The cash cards are there for people who can't play a lot and want to be able to actually afford things without it taking months because they play an hour a day if they're lucky.

 

AKA: People with careers and a life/family.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:08 AM Edited by Gregers08, 16 March 2014 - 01:10 AM.

The cash cards are there for people who can't play a lot and want to be able to actually afford things without it taking months because they play an hour a day if they're lucky.

 

AKA: People with careers and a life/family.

I don't doubt that but R* clearly didn't just add them to be considerate to busy people, there's money to be made and making all that online content probably isn't cheap so it's probably there more to fund ongoing support of GTAO and also to make a bit of money on the side.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:12 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 01:13 AM.

 

The cash cards are there for people who can't play a lot and want to be able to actually afford things without it taking months because they play an hour a day if they're lucky.

 

AKA: People with careers and a life/family.

I don't doubt that but R* clearly didn't just add them to be considerate, there's money to be made and making all that online content probably isn't cheap so it's probably there more to fund ongoing support of GTAO and also to make a bit of money on the side.

 

Oh, absolutely. Everyone and their grandma knows people who barely play aren't gonna be the only people to buy cash cards.

 

However, what I said is the main focus of them. Just not the sole purpose of them.

 

It's a great all around business decision. Extra money, and it's not necessary so your fanbase isn't gonna be hating you.

 

Also, like you said, it's a continuous money flow for R*, which helps Online in the long-run.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:36 AM

 

 

The cash cards are there for people who can't play a lot and want to be able to actually afford things without it taking months because they play an hour a day if they're lucky.

 

AKA: People with careers and a life/family.

I don't doubt that but R* clearly didn't just add them to be considerate, there's money to be made and making all that online content probably isn't cheap so it's probably there more to fund ongoing support of GTAO and also to make a bit of money on the side.

 

Oh, absolutely. Everyone and their grandma knows people who barely play aren't gonna be the only people to buy cash cards.

 

However, what I said is the main focus of them. Just not the sole purpose of them.

 

It's a great all around business decision. Extra money, and it's not necessary so your fanbase isn't gonna be hating you.

 

Also, like you said, it's a continuous money flow for R*, which helps Online in the long-run.

 

How much you want to bet they're going to patch the play any mission. It will take away from cash cards. I've made over 300K doing the same mission over and over again. Why did I do this? Cause it will get patch and I will not pay to play like Rockstar wants us too. That's why Heist are not out. 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:47 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 02:47 AM.

How much you want to bet they're going to patch the play any mission. 

I don't know what that means.

 

It will take away from cash cards. 

Having over 500 missions takes away from cash cards, technically.

 

Cause it will get patch and I will not pay to play like Rockstar wants us too.

That's exactly it. R* didn't make 500 missions for people to do 5 of them. That's a huge slap in the face of the people that worked on those. You'd understand if you did game development.

 

You know the guy who made Flappy Bird? Wanna know why he took it down? Because he made a game for people to have fun, and instead he got death threats and constant abuse. It's the same situation with a different action.

 

That's why Heist are not out. 

Aaaand that argument is stupid, as that would be completely counter-intuitive in trying to sell cash cards. It would be worse for cash card sales.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:57 AM Edited by redx165, 16 March 2014 - 03:05 AM.

 

How much you want to bet they're going to patch the play any mission. 

I don't know what that means.

 

It will take away from cash cards. 

Having over 500 missions takes away from cash cards, technically.

 

Cause it will get patch and I will not pay to play like Rockstar wants us too.

That's exactly it. R* didn't make 500 missions for people to do 5 of them. That's a huge slap in the face of the people that worked on those. You'd understand if you did game development.

 

You know the guy who made Flappy Bird? Wanna know why he took it down? Because he made a game for people to have fun, and instead he got death threats and constant abuse. It's the same situation with a different action.

 

That's why Heist are not out. 

Aaaand that argument is stupid, as that would be completely counter-intuitive in trying to sell cash cards. It would be worse for cash card sales.

 

You can play any mission you want. Just select the one. ( I won't name the mission that pays well ), takes about 5 minutes to do it and you get over 15K. 

 

500 Missions. Get real, don't count racing and deathmatches missions. Its not. They have maybe 100 mission and half of that are under payed. 

 

How is it a slap in the face? Does Rockstar think their fanbase is stupid? Why would we play missions that pay 5K and less? That's half the missions. Its no where near the same. The guy who took Flappy bird down was a pussy. If you can't handle hate than you shouldn't of made it mainstream.  If I made Flappy Bird I wouldn't give a sh*t about the hate. You heard all the money the guy made? How can they scare a muti-million dollar company? 

 

How is my argument stupid? I said they won't release heists cause that will limit the amount of people buying cash cards. Mark my word they WILL release them when Watch Dogs come out. First they will have them pay good then a month later will get nerf just like the missions did before cash cards came out. Its honestly not that hard to understand if you use your head. You however always defend Rockstar even when your wrong. ( Proof of you defending Rockstar? You said their 500 missions but DM and Races are NOT missions )


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:21 AM


 


How much you want to bet they're going to patch the play any mission. 

I don't know what that means.
 

It will take away from cash cards. 

Having over 500 missions takes away from cash cards, technically.
 

Cause it will get patch and I will not pay to play like Rockstar wants us too.

That's exactly it. R* didn't make 500 missions for people to do 5 of them. That's a huge slap in the face of the people that worked on those. You'd understand if you did game development.
 
You know the guy who made Flappy Bird? Wanna know why he took it down? Because he made a game for people to have fun, and instead he got death threats and constant abuse. It's the same situation with a different action.
 

That's why Heist are not out. 

Aaaand that argument is stupid, as that would be completely counter-intuitive in trying to sell cash cards. It would be worse for cash card sales.
 
You can play any mission you want. Just select the one. ( I won't name the mission that pays well ), takes about 5 minutes to do it and you get over 15K. 
 
500 Missions. Get real, don't count racing and deathmatches missions. Its not. They have maybe 100 mission and half of that are under payed. 
 
How is it a slap in the face? Does Rockstar think their fanbase is stupid? Why would we play missions that pay 5K and less? That's half the missions. Its no where near the same. The guy who took Flappy bird down was a pussy. If you can't handle hate than you shouldn't of made it mainstream.  If I made Flappy Bird I wouldn't give a sh*t about the hate. You heard all the money the guy made? How can they scare a muti-million dollar company? 
 
How is my argument stupid? I said they won't release heists cause that will limit the amount of people buying cash cards. Mark my word they WILL release them when Watch Dogs come out. First they will have them pay good then a month later will get nerf just like the missions did before cash cards came out. Its honestly not that hard to understand if you use your head. You however always defend Rockstar even when your wrong. ( Proof of you defending Rockstar? You said their 500 missions but DM and Races are NOT missions )

Lmao don't argue with him. He'll try coming up with points that make no sense whatsoever. Even when he knows he's wrong, he'll insist he's right.

You however, have good points.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:26 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 03:28 AM.

1) Why wouldn't you count them? It doesn't matter if they're technically a mission or not, they all do the same. You do something and get paid.

 

2) How is it a slap in the face? People spent months designing and creating 500 missions, and most people only use a couple. 500 missions. If you spent a lot of time writing a book, and most people only read the first paragraph over and over and over and that's it, would you not be upset? What's the point of spending time creating a whole book when people only read the first 5 sentences?

 

Why would you play missions that pay $5k or less? Variety. Do different things. R* wants you to do missions over and over and over, just not the same ones. They want you to spread yourself out.

 

"The guy who took Flappy bird down was a pussy."

 

How can you even say that? Were you the center of attack by tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of people, constantly? People saying they'd kill you? That they hate you? That they wished you were dead?

 

No, you weren't, so you have no right to talk unless you've experienced it firsthand. You have no idea what that guy went through. What he had to put up with day after day after day after day.

 

"If you can't handle hate than you shouldn't of made it mainstream."

 

He didn't make it mainstream. People did. He released the game in May of 2013. It didn't get popular until 2014. It was a fad. It wasn't his doing. He created a game he thought would be fun. He wasn't expecting to get bullied every day of his life because of it.

 

"How can they scare a muti-million dollar company? "

 

I don't know what company you're talking about here. Are you talking about .GEARS? The fans didn't scare them, they scared the creator specifically.

 

If you're talking about R*, you scare the company by using your wallet. That's how a Market Economy works.

 

3) Your argument is stupid because delaying heists further makes the whole situation worse, which in turn makes the cash cards have a worse time. Let me explain it to you:

 

R* pissed a lot of people off immediately by having stuff that was advertised not being in the game, most notably heists.

 

Weeks without heists become months, and people are getting angrier. They're getting bored. They keep hearing R* say "We'll talk about heists later!", and then not hear anything.

 

So, they do one of 3 things:

 

1) They continue playing, using the missions to make money.

 

2) They stop playing until heists are out, which means less people there to buy cash cards.

 

3) They stop playing altogether because of the anger of knowing R* still hasn't released heists. They also don't like the grind. That's even less people there to buy cash cards.

 

Conclusion: Pissing off your fanbase is the worst way to get people to buy cash cards from you.

 

"Its honestly not that hard to understand if you use your head."

 

It may not be hard in that own little world you have in your head, but in the real world, it's retarded. It's terrible business.

 

"You however always defend Rockstar even when your wrong."

 

Know I'm wrong? Lol. There is no right or wrong on something that hasn't happened yet. Jesus.

 

BrokenLizard: Oh boy, you again! I should definitely take you seriously when you can't even see how R* charging for heists is business retardation!

 

Every single point I have makes perfect sense, although I doubt you can see that.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:52 AM Edited by redx165, 16 March 2014 - 04:12 AM.

1) Why wouldn't you count them? It doesn't matter if they're technically a mission or not, they all do the same. You do something and get paid.

 

2) How is it a slap in the face? People spent months designing and creating 500 missions, and most people only use a couple. 500 missions. If you spent a lot of time writing a book, and most people only read the first paragraph over and over and over and that's it, would you not be upset? What's the point of spending time creating a whole book when people only read the first 5 sentences?

 

Why would you play missions that pay $5k or less? Variety. Do different things. R* wants you to do missions over and over and over, just not the same ones. They want you to spread yourself out.

 

"The guy who took Flappy bird down was a pussy."

 

How can you even say that? Were you the center of attack by tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of people, constantly? People saying they'd kill you? That they hate you? That they wished you were dead?

 

No, you weren't, so you have no right to talk unless you've experienced it firsthand. You have no idea what that guy went through. What he had to put up with day after day after day after day.

 

"If you can't handle hate than you shouldn't of made it mainstream."

 

He didn't make it mainstream. People did. He released the game in May of 2013. It didn't get popular until 2014. It was a fad. It wasn't his doing. He created a game he thought would be fun. He wasn't expecting to get bullied every day of his life because of it.

 

"How can they scare a muti-million dollar company? "

 

I don't know what company you're talking about here. Are you talking about .GEARS? The fans didn't scare them, they scared the creator specifically.

 

If you're talking about R*, you scare the company by using your wallet. That's how a Market Economy works.

 

3) Your argument is stupid because delaying heists further makes the whole situation worse, which in turn makes the cash cards have a worse time. Let me explain it to you:

 

R* pissed a lot of people off immediately by having stuff that was advertised not being in the game, most notably heists.

 

Weeks without heists become months, and people are getting angrier. They're getting bored. They keep hearing R* say "We'll talk about heists later!", and then not hear anything.

 

So, they do one of 3 things:

 

1) They continue playing, using the missions to make money.

 

2) They stop playing until heists are out, which means less people there to buy cash cards.

 

3) They stop playing altogether because of the anger of knowing R* still hasn't released heists. They also don't like the grind. That's even less people there to buy cash cards.

 

Conclusion: Pissing off your fanbase is the worst way to get people to buy cash cards from you.

 

"Its honestly not that hard to understand if you use your head."

 

It may not be hard in that own little world you have in your head, but in the real world, it's retarded. It's terrible business.

 

"You however always defend Rockstar even when your wrong."

 

Know I'm wrong? Lol. There is no right or wrong on something that hasn't happened yet. Jesus.

 

BrokenLizard: Oh boy, you again! I should definitely take you seriously when you can't even see how R* charging for heists is business retardation!

 

Every single point I have makes perfect sense, although I doubt you can see that.

My own little world? I guess you're up Rockstar ass all day you can't tell what companies like Call of Duty is doing? 

They release the bad maps and now guns as a launch game. Then they bring out DLC maps that are good and should of been at launch. Bad Business? How many records did they break? Activision knows what they're doing. Milking the game for all its money. 

 

Oh yea cause you go in a list that says MISSION and there is only about 100. I wonder if you even play GTA O? I guess stealing a car in free roam is a mission. You're doing something and get paid for doing it. Better yet hunting a bounty is a mission. You're doing something and you get paid. That's the worst logic I've heard in a long time. 

 

Who was the guy who was the manger of MW3? I can't remember his name. He was the guy who came up with the famous speech called NO MORE LAST STAND. Taking that job you knew the risks. You know what I would of said to those people? Who's the idiot for spending their money? Thanks to you I'm richer. So yes he clearly is a pussy. If you're not up for the job then don't even attempt it. 

 

How do you think Mainstream gets started? By the people

 

How can we scare them with the market? Do you know how many idiots their are in this world? Nothing will ever get done. That's why the 2% in America hold 75% of the wealth while the 98% hold the rest. 

 

Going by your logic lets release heist along with Cash cards. Now lets say two Rockstar employees are talking.

 

Employee number 1: Why hasn't anyone buy Cash Cards?
Employee number 2: Well we just release heist that pay around 100K to each player

Employee number 1: Should we nerf it to 50K and put a 24 hour in game timelimit to stop players from having fun? 
Employee number 2: Yes and that will force players to buy cash cards if they want to get money faster

 

Who would buy cash cards if you can get 100K for doing heist? Who would buy cash cards if you get 10K for every mission? No one would and that's why missions and races were nerf cause of Rockstar's own greed. You're the person who still can't see it. Pissing them off won't do sh*t. Once again look at COD. It gets worst every year and you still get the fanboys and the dead brain people to buy it and get the DLC. You will always get the fool to buy whatever you want. 

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:15 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 04:17 AM.

"My own little world? I guess you're up Rockstar ass all day you can't tell what companies like Call of Duty is doing? "

 

CoD? What CoD is doing is creating games that their fanbase wants. They then create maps that extend the life of their game. Pretty standard procedure.

 

"They release the bad maps and now guns as a launch game."

 

Completely subjective.

 

"Then they bring out DLC maps that are good and should of been at launch."

 

So maps they create 8+ months after the game released should be in at launch? How does that work?

 

"Bad Business? How many records did they break?"

 

And guess when those records were broken? Before GTA: Online was released, and people saw that heists weren't in the game yet! Wow!

 

"Activision knows what they're doing."

 

They absolutely do. They know how to create a game that a lot of people like and then add onto that over time so people can continue to enjoy it.

 

"Oh yea cause you go in a list that says MISSION and there is only about 100"

 

Alright, then there's conflicting reports by R* themselves. This whole thing is retarded anyway. Who cares what a mission is defined as?

 

"How can we scare them with the market?"

 

By not buying their stuff. People do it all the time. It's harder with video games, though, as what you may not enjoy, others do. It's still doable though.

 

Why do you think EA got rid of their Online passes? Who do you think Microsoft's ditching GFWL? Why do you think Ubisoft also got rid of their Online Passes (Or something along those lines. They got rid of something)?

 

Because people hated them, expressed how they hated them, and had nothing to do with them.

 

It's a Market Economy. You, as a person, decide what's manufactured, what's sold, and what's gone.

 

"Going by your logic lets release heist along with Cash cards."

 

Yes, exactly.

 

Cash cards are primarily made for people who don't spend a lot of time playing the game. They have a career and a family, and they only play when they want to relax. They don't want to grind missions. They don't want to spend weeks, or even months, getting enough money to buy a single car someone else could get in 1 day. So, they buy the cash cards so they can be on a level playing field.

 

So, now you have that as background knowledge. Let's get to the point:

 

In order to do heists, you're gonna need a fancy apartment in order to plan the heists (Or so my friend tells me). So, that's a couple hundred thousand dollars you need to make before you can even do a heist. So, the guys who can't spend much time playing don't want to spend weeks/months getting an apartment. They buy a cash card. Now they can do heists!

 

However, if they keep delaying heists, they keep pissing off their fanbase, who, in turn, don't want to keep supporting a business that keeps f*cking them over. It's literally Business 101.

 

There's also the impatient people who just don't want to grind missions for a car, whether they're heists or not. Cash card!

 

Of course the heists are gonna have a time limit. That's pretty obvious when they're a high-payout, special 'mission'. The time of the timer entirely depends on how many heists they release once they're released.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:35 AM Edited by redx165, 16 March 2014 - 04:35 AM.

"My own little world? I guess you're up Rockstar ass all day you can't tell what companies like Call of Duty is doing? "

 

CoD? What CoD is doing is creating games that their fanbase wants. They then create maps that extend the life of their game. Pretty standard procedure.

 

"They release the bad maps and now guns as a launch game."

 

Completely subjective.

 

"Then they bring out DLC maps that are good and should of been at launch."

 

So maps they create 8+ months after the game released should be in at launch? How does that work?

 

"Bad Business? How many records did they break?"

 

And guess when those records were broken? Before GTA: Online was released, and people saw that heists weren't in the game yet! Wow!

 

"Activision knows what they're doing."

 

They absolutely do. They know how to create a game that a lot of people like and then add onto that over time so people can continue to enjoy it.

 

"Oh yea cause you go in a list that says MISSION and there is only about 100"

 

Alright, then there's conflicting reports by R* themselves. This whole thing is retarded anyway. Who cares what a mission is defined as?

 

"How can we scare them with the market?"

 

By not buying their stuff. People do it all the time. It's harder with video games, though, as what you may not enjoy, others do. It's still doable though.

 

Why do you think EA got rid of their Online passes? Who do you think Microsoft's ditching GFWL? Why do you think Ubisoft also got rid of their Online Passes (Or something along those lines. They got rid of something)?

 

Because people hated them, expressed how they hated them, and had nothing to do with them.

 

It's a Market Economy. You, as a person, decide what's manufactured, what's sold, and what's gone.

 

"Going by your logic lets release heist along with Cash cards."

 

Yes, exactly.

 

Cash cards are primarily made for people who don't spend a lot of time playing the game. They have a career and a family, and they only play when they want to relax. They don't want to grind missions. They don't want to spend weeks, or even months, getting enough money to buy a single car someone else could get in 1 day. So, they buy the cash cards so they can be on a level playing field.

 

So, now you have that as background knowledge. Let's get to the point:

 

In order to do heists, you're gonna need a fancy apartment in order to plan the heists (Or so my friend tells me). So, that's a couple hundred thousand dollars you need to make before you can even do a heist. So, the guys who can't spend much time playing don't want to spend weeks/months getting an apartment. They buy a cash card. Now they can do heists!

 

However, if they keep delaying heists, they keep pissing off their fanbase, who, in turn, don't want to keep supporting a business that keeps f*cking them over. It's literally Business 101.

 

There's also the impatient people who just don't want to grind missions for a car, whether they're heists or not. Cash card!

 

Of course the heists are gonna have a time limit. That's pretty obvious when they're a high-payout, special 'mission'. The time of the timer entirely depends on how many heists they release once they're released.

Not at all. The COD players want a COD 4 remake. If they listen to their fanbase they would see there is more hate towards quickscoping than there is that like it. They also wouldn't create a game made for one play style. "Camping" which is the biggest problem with ghost alongside Big Maps.

 

Not really, there is more hate towards the bigger maps than there is that like it. Why do you think they're making small to medium size maps? They want the players to come back to COD.

 

There's no proof that they make these maps after launch. Stadium was suppose to be in the original Black Ops 1 disc but was release as the first DLC. Dome has two maps in Ghost. Strikezone which is the same layout and the new one that's coming in the DLC. 

 

Lots of people care. Mission is when you fight the AI like the Single Player. Deathmatch is what its called a Deathmatch. There's a reason why I don't play it. Everyone hides with a Advance Rifle or a Heavy Sniper. Its worst than Ghost. 

 

EA got rid of online passes so wouldn't be seen as THE WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA. I really don't think Ubisoft got rid of it for the people. How would paying for PS+/Gold and getting a online pass make sense? You already paying to play online. If anything Sony/MS force them too. We decide what they do? If that was true. We can't force big companies to do anything. Videogame companies are almost impossible to stop. You play their game and they know that. People complain about COD yet they buy their DLC/Camos. 

 

Let's see would you rather spend $5 for 100K or play THE GAME and get the same amount of money? Heist would bring more excitement to the game. What will the car do in the long run? You play and drive around for a couple hours until you're bored. Earning your money from the game has always been proven to bring more excitement to the game rather just glitching or buying money. The problem is Rockstar wants to force people to buy cash cards or waste a whole day to make a 100K. There's missions that pay you 750. That's pathetic. 

 

Who are they really pissing off? Who still plays GTA O? I bet you half the people quit playing the game after the first month. I wouldn't be surprise that 20% of the people who bought GTA V is still playing it. It's boring with nothing to do once you hit a high number. You can have 10 cars with everything on it but it won't change the fact that once you do it you will become bored. 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:54 AM Edited by BrokenLizard, 16 March 2014 - 04:55 AM.

@themasterfocker, how does R*s ass taste? You got your mouth all up in it! Everything you say is sh*t.

And @redx165, your right, I was just playing a few missions and each one I got only $2250. That IS pathetic.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:05 AM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 16 March 2014 - 05:13 AM.

Alright, the CoD argument also has no point whatsoever, so I'm just dropping that now.

 

Except for one part:

 

"There's no proof that they make these maps after launch."

 

Just like there's no proof they make it before launch.

 

The day one DLC maps are on the disc, yes, because the DLC releases right after launch. Those DLC's are made before release. Those DLC's also are free if you pre-order the game or get the Limited Edition, which is literally the same price as a regular copy. Every other DLC isn't made before release, though, or at least there's no proof that they aren't.

 

"EA got rid of online passes so wouldn't be seen as THE WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA."

 

Which proves my point...

 

People hated them even more for their Online passes, and it negatively affected them, so they got rid of it.

 

"I really don't think Ubisoft got rid of it for the people."

 

Then why'd they do it? What possible reason would they have to get rid of it if people didn't care?

 

"How would paying for PS+/Gold and getting a online pass make sense?"

 

Which is exactly why people hated it. It only affected rentals/pre-owned games, but it was still annoying to a lot of people.

 

"If anything Sony/MS force them too."

 

Sony/Microsoft can't force EA/Ubisoft to do sh*t. EA/Ubisoft did it so they could make extra money. Nothing more. They jumped on an opportunity.

 

"We decide what they do?"

 

You bet your ass we do.

 

"We can't force big companies to do anything."

 

We absolutely can.

 

Online passes are one big example.

 

Games themselves are another thing.

 

Notice how game companies constantly change games to what consumers want? Exactly.

 

If a company sells blenders at $50, and no one buys them, you think they're gonna keep the price at $50? No, they're gonna drop the price.

 

We vote with our wallets.

 

"People complain about COD yet they buy their DLC/Camos. "

 

Because the people that complain about CoD don't actually mean it, as they keep buying it. Either that, or they just blindly hate.

 

"Let's see would you rather spend $5 for 100K or play THE GAME and get the same amount of money?"

 

Did you miss the entire point of my comment?

 

"What will the car do in the long run?"

 

I used this as an example, not as a point to be discussed.

 

"Who are they really pissing off?"

 

The people looking forward to heists...

 

"I bet you half the people quit playing the game after the first month."

 

So that's even less people to buy cash cards. Your arguments are kinda counter-productive...

 

"I wouldn't be surprise that 20% of the people who bought GTA V is still playing it."

 

Again...

 

"It's boring with nothing to do once you hit a high number."

 

So how is holding out the one thing that could rekindle your Online mode and pissing off your remaining fanbase gonna help at all!?

 

BrokenLizard: How's it feel to have a low double digit IQ?

 

I mean, you literally never bring anything meaningful to discuss, and when you do, it's all delusional nonsense.

 

How about you can talk when you come up with something worth talking about, yeah?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:30 AM

@themasterfocker, how does R*s ass taste? You got your mouth all up in it! Everything you say is sh*t.

And @redx165, your right, I was just playing a few missions and each one I got only $2250. That IS pathetic.

 

 

My IQ is 128 my friend.
How bout you make a solid point, yeah?

 

 

Your grammar and sentence structure states otherwise. :^:

 

 

 

 

Anyways, hopefully soon! Was a disappointment that they didn't have them in the game from the get-go!

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