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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:24 AM

What I mean by serious is, take out all the jokes, references, and stupid easter eggs, and give us an insane story line where we have sympathy for the character.

 

I have an idea  for a more serious GTA.

 

You could start out as a 19 year old thug in LS, then, when your friend gets killed by a balla, you decide to join the Families for revenge.  You would be part of the families now, and it starts out good.  You're taking out your pain on the ballas.  But after a while, you don't like the other crimes your gang partakes in.  EX: murdering innocent people.

 

 You want out, so you try to run off to San Fierro where your other childhood friend lives.  He lets you live with him after you tell him that you betrayed your old gang.  Your friend gets you a job boosting cars and street racing for some money.  

 

but the families soon find out where you are, and you once again go into hiding, booking a motel in whetstone.  While in your motel room, you get a phone call from a LSPD officer, and he tells you that he will help you get out of the mess that you are in, but he would need 500k, or you would need to do some jobs for him.

 

 Once you do that for him, you find the worst ghettos in LS, and he gives you a fake ID so you can join the cops and help them sweep the area of the families.  You find out that a friend from the families has survived, and he tells you that he would end everything if you do some jobs for him.  (Fly to mexico, get drugs, and bring them back to LS).  You have two choices, do it for him, or kill him and have to give away everything you earned (Custom cars, guns, money) to the cops as evidence.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:37 AM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 13 March 2014 - 02:38 AM.

GTA became serious since the start of the HD Era with GTA 4 (circa 2008)but yeah maybe instead of how GTA 5 balanced fun and realism maybe it should go back to IV's Extreme Realism but alot of people will whine and complain.
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:42 AM

I really liked the direction IV took, and I'm kind of disappointed that V went the other way to cater to the people who thought it was "too serious."

 

V seemed confused as to whether or not it wanted to be serious or goofy. I don't understand why you can't have fun, over the top missions, but a serious story and characters - with comedic relief - much like IV. Plenty of other games do it.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:48 AM

GTA became serious since the start of the HD Era with GTA 4 (circa 2008)but yeah maybe instead of how GTA 5 balanced fun and realism maybe it should go back to IV's Extreme Realism but alot of people will whine and complain.

But you can still have a fun game with a realistic story.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:38 AM

To be honest I would hate a game like this. I mean IV is my favourite, but that's where I would draw the line with it being serious. It's just not GTA without a few goofy characters, and the satire.
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:23 AM

I really liked the direction IV took, and I'm kind of disappointed that V went the other way to cater to the people who thought it was "too serious."
 
V seemed confused as to whether or not it wanted to be serious or goofy. I don't understand why you can't have fun, over the top missions, but a serious story and characters - with comedic relief - much like IV. Plenty of other games do it.


I think TBoGT just did what you said,Over-the-Top-Fun Missions but serious characters.imo i also think V did that.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:27 AM

I think the game would lose its appeal without its trademark humour. This is like suggesting South Park, Family Guy etc should become soap operas.

GTA IV and TLAD is as serious as it should get IMO.
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:56 AM

I think the game would lose its appeal without its trademark humour. This is like suggesting South Park, Family Guy etc should become soap operas.

GTA IV and TLAD is as serious as it should get IMO.


I think TLAD is the most grittest and realistic (Too SERIOUS) in the Franchise.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 01:02 PM Edited by Rainbow Party, 13 March 2014 - 01:04 PM.

I disagree with you OP, and I think GTA IV and the episodes from LC are as serious as it can get. The satire and parodies and black humour have always been and should always be part of the game imo. I wouldn't want GTA to turn serious, it wouldn't be GTA. Let another game with a different title do that.

Besides, I think the story you propose could fit right with a GTA that has humour like all the others. And there's a limit to how realistic the story can get, given the type of videogame it is.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:29 PM

IV was perfect balance. I can't imagine it without TW@.

GTA has always invoked subtle-as-a-sledgehammer commentary.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

I get the feeling that GTA VI is going to be controversial... Just a gutfeeling 


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:46 PM

I think the game would lose its appeal without its trademark humour. This is like suggesting South Park, Family Guy etc should become soap operas.

GTA IV and TLAD is as serious as it should get IMO.

 

I agree with this. I don't want to play a GTA that rivals Saint's Row IV in silliness, but I wouldn't want one that was so serious it made TLAD look like a slapstick comedy in comparison.

 

IV may not be very silly, but it still has some comedic parts like the 'cock tower' and some of the things pedestrians say. A GTA with no humor or satire wouldn't interest me much.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:30 PM

I get the feeling that GTA VI is going to be controversial... Just a gutfeeling 


V was Controversial but i hope VI doesnt overdo it.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 05:13 AM

 

I really liked the direction IV took, and I'm kind of disappointed that V went the other way to cater to the people who thought it was "too serious."
 
V seemed confused as to whether or not it wanted to be serious or goofy. I don't understand why you can't have fun, over the top missions, but a serious story and characters - with comedic relief - much like IV. Plenty of other games do it.


I think TBoGT just did what you said,Over-the-Top-Fun Missions but serious characters.imo i also think V did that.

 

I don't know. The story for TBoGT was pretty alright, but some of the characters seemed like they were from a cartoon - or just parodies of characters from IV. Something like a mix between the characters of IV and V, with a story and comedic relief from IV, and the missions from V would be perfect in my opinion.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 06:36 AM

I like amount of realism in IV, when there is still enough fun elements for it to be real GTA.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:24 PM

i think if you want a "serious" game then you shouldnt play GTA. Dont be asking it to be something its not.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 12:41 AM

i think if you want a "serious" game then you shouldnt play GTA. Dont be asking it to be something its not.

Get a load of this guy. Pretending IV, TLAD, and TBoGT don't exist.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 01:39 AM


i think if you want a "serious" game then you shouldnt play GTA. Dont be asking it to be something its not.

Get a load of this guy. Pretending IV, TLAD, and TBoGT don't exist.

Lol true,but TBoGT wasnt too "SERIOUS" or "GROUNDED IN REALISM/GRITTY" as IV and TLAD.
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 04:08 AM

It would be quite nice and a good culminating point if R* chooses to continue going through IV's path. But I doubt it.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 03:10 PM

 

 

i think if you want a "serious" game then you shouldnt play GTA. Dont be asking it to be something its not.

Get a load of this guy. Pretending IV, TLAD, and TBoGT don't exist.

Lol true,but TBoGT wasnt too "SERIOUS" or "GROUNDED IN REALISM/GRITTY" as IV and TLAD.

 

 

which is why it was the best of the 3.

 

R* wont make the mistake of GTAIV again, people didnt like it.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 03:25 PM

I think in regards to realism = fun in Sandbox games, The Getaway's got to be on the far "serious" side, Saints Row has to be on the far "crazy" side, and GTA's somewhere in the middle.

 

Refer to this diagram I made in a few minutes in MS Paint for reference.

 

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 03:57 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 15 March 2014 - 03:59 PM.

I think in regards to realism = fun in Sandbox games, The Getaway's got to be on the far "serious" side, Saints Row has to be on the far "crazy" side, and GTA's somewhere in the middle.
 
Refer to this diagram I made in a few minutes in MS Paint for reference.
 
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Lol this diagram is amazing,thanks for sharing bro :) i am sure SR was going to be in the Crazy side,it been that way since it started in 2006,and it great to see GTA in the Middle (Realism and Fun) Lol :)

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I having a feeling that Next-Gen GTAs will be SO Grounded in Realism than ever IV,V was also Grounded in Realism but was balanced with Fun i.e.Watching TV or Sleeping then Flying Planes.But if anything next-gen GTAs should be a mixture of IV's SO GROUNDED IN REALISM and V's DIVERSITY OF BOTH.
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:16 PM

^^ that would be very sad and evidence that they dont have many new ideas unlike what claim.

 

V was lost in translation - the problem was they focused too much on trying to tell a "serious" story instead of keeping it simple.

The next GTA should be like TBOGT, GTA3 and Vice City in terms of realism/serious.

The only thing holding TBOGT back from being on the same level as the PS2 games is the fact that it still had GTA4 crappy so-called realistic mechanics/gameplay (that and the radio didnt have good music/talkshow and it wasnt funny)

 

 

What R* should really stop wasting time on ingame TV  and other un-necessary stuff (like that they had in 4 and 5) while the rest of world is still dull/boring.

They need to focus much more on the in game world.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:44 PM

 

 

i think if you want a "serious" game then you shouldnt play GTA. Dont be asking it to be something its not.

Get a load of this guy. Pretending IV, TLAD, and TBoGT don't exist.

Lol true,but TBoGT wasnt too "SERIOUS" or "GROUNDED IN REALISM/GRITTY" as IV and TLAD.

 

It was mostly the characters that had that affect. If you think about just the story and go over the missions, but forget about the characters, the story was serious and Tony and Luis were knee-deep in sh*t. Tony and Luis were serious as was their story, it was some of the other characters that were so over-the-top and goofy that took focus away from that.

 

 

R* wont make the mistake of GTAIV again, people didnt like it.

That's funny, because there are plenty of people who loved Niko's character and the main story. It's not exactly uncommon to see people bashing V's story and praising IV's.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:49 PM

A "Serious" GTA, wouldn't be GTA at all, as a few have already stated - One of the most iconic things in these games are the little humorous things that have been added.

For me, If I wanted a more serious GTA, I'd just buy a more serious game from a different series which has been made to be like that.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 06:58 PM

I think in regards to realism = fun in Sandbox games, The Getaway's got to be on the far "serious" side, Saints Row has to be on the far "crazy" side, and GTA's somewhere in the middle.

 

Refer to this diagram I made in a few minutes in MS Paint for reference.

 

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The getaway was a pretty amazing game though.  Now something like that would be interesting to see in a GTA game.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:06 PM Edited by Blennerville, 15 March 2014 - 07:08 PM.


 

R* wont make the mistake of GTAIV again, people didnt like it.

That's funny, because there are plenty of people who loved Niko's character and the main story. It's not exactly uncommon to see people bashing V's story and praising IV's.

 

 

Plenty, sure, but the VAST majority didnt love it and were much happier with 5. Forums are wired that way. The MGS forums would have you believe MGS2 is the most loved MGS by the WHOLE MGS communuity when it isnt.

 

 

The Getaway was very depressing imo, like watching Eastenders.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 07:10 PM

I think a time will come,that Rockstar will split the GTA Franchise into two,the 1997-Present will be the Original and then maybe a cancelled GTA game will be a rebrand of a new franchise but shares the same Universe,Brands and Crime Events as GTA.the Spin-off Franchise will be a "Stricter Realistic" Version of GTA while the Original Franchise which the world and gamers have come to love for over 17 years will still be in the Middle ground in terms of "Realism and Fun(humour)" maybe GTAO is the new Spin-off Franchise but it an Online Version? or is it Agent? Only time will tell.But then alot of people will still say"oh that a GTA game but without the GTA Logo" Lol we will see.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 10:13 PM

We don't really need serious game. What we need is balanced game between seriousness and jokes, between grit and happiness. We need something we got in the past couple of times in games like GTA III, VC, VCS or IV. Almost perfect balance of every element. 

 

The worst way is the totally over the top one, which was a catastrophe in both SA and V. Apparently R* has more problems with writing the game, that ventures too much onto Saints Row ground than serious game, so I believe when they will try to stick to more dark side of human nature we will get really great games. 

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 10:15 PM Edited by NYC PATROL, 15 March 2014 - 10:16 PM.

I think the story going back towards the tone of IV would be a great idea. But keep the sandbox (out of mission stuff) the same as V.

 

GTA isn't GTA without the cultural/media satire and crazy vehicles to operate. 





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