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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:35 PM

While I PREFER offline story mode, there is NO reason you can't have a game that implements BOTH offline AND online effectively. The idea that Rockstar put less effort into the offline because of the online isn't really based on FACT. I happen to think that the online is a bit disappointing, but that is due to SEVERAL factors that have NOTHING to do with offline.

Perhaps GTA is not the type of game that TRANSLATES well to online multiplayer gaming. Most people that play online are first person shooter fanatics, who expect the SAME kind of experience they get playing Call of Duty or Battlefield. I think those games are DREADFUL and repetitive, but that's just MY opinion. They ARE very popular in SPITE of how I feel about them, so it's not a stretch to say that this type of open world game that involves FAR more than simple kill or be killed objectives may not be what most people want to do online.

 

The activities and jobs play out MUCH better when surrounded by a STORY in which ties everything you do TOGETHER. Piling up XP and trophy achievements may not be enough to make these jobs and activities worthwhile for many. I haven't played online for more than 1 hour at a time since Valentine's day. I HAVE however, been playing Max Payne 3 again, which NEVER gets old. Perhaps it's because of it's simplicity where the online objectives are simple.

 

In SPITE of Rockstar's massive effort put into the Online aspect of this game, I don't really feel like the offline story mode was hurt in a significant fashion. The story mode is actually FAR better than the online. could it have been a little bit LONGER? Sure. It would have been GREAT if it was similar in length to San Andreas, but it was STILL a great story mode, and free roaming AFTER the story is finished, is STILL better than roaming around Online.

 

The Offline free roam is better because there is a TON of content that you LOSE Online like:

 

Animals. Whether it's hunting, or simply watching nature at work, Offline HAS it, Online does NOT. You don't realize how important this is until you spend a lengthy amount of time Online.

 

Weather. The Thunder and lightning that is so awesome Offline, is nowhere to be found Online. I have NO idea why, but it's not there.

 

Traffic. The traffic Offline is busy, seamless and smoothly consistent. Online can feel like No man's land at times. The open world loses the "living, breathing world" GTA is KNOWN for.

 

Hopefully, there will be future DLC for Offline, because frankly, I'm not sure there's much you can do with the Online to make it more appealing for people suffering from Call of Duty syndrome. That being said, I'm NOT disappointed with the Story mode, because I don't get the FEELING that it was neglected for the online. It's STILL a fantastic offline, and in MY opinion, only finishes 3rd to the greatness of San Andreas and Red Dead Redemption.

That's NOTHING to be ashamed of.

Well said.

 

A little excessive capitalization, but well said.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:35 PM

Oh ok, capital letters made me read the post above mine. Had a hard time not reading it in a funny way but I agree with all that, offline is really great imo. It's just that when online came out, the chance to play a slimmed down version with a bunch of mates was more fun. If less immersive and impressive.


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#63

Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:37 PM

Nobody forces you to play it.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:43 PM

Wait until they start creating games for the Xbone and PS4. Hopefully they will redeem themselves. If not, expect a Red Dead Online and other bullsh*t. Greedy f*cking pigs.

Yep, they are so greedy.  Why did you have to pay for all of the dlc's?  Oh, you had to buy a shark card?  Well then deal with it.  Would you rather pay for dlc, or have the option to not pay for it?


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:49 PM

Just to address my use of capital letters, some people find it annoying, but it's a habit I can't break. I use capitals as a point of EMPHASIS at certain points of my comments. Sorry, I'm not TRYING to be annoying.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:51 PM

I for one enjoy offline and online equally. I mean, what really do you expect out of these games, seriously? Stop and think about it for a second. The only one relevant question that should come to your mind when playing any game is "are you having fun?"

 

If the answer to that question is no, then maybe it's the game's fault...or maybe it's yours. Things change. That is the only constant in anything, offline or online, game or real life. Things will change, and it's your own choice to accept or reject that fact.

 

Now, the HD GTA games have a completely different feel to them compared to III, VC & SA. That's because it's the direction R* wanted to take with the series. While still being true to the spirit of GTA, GTAIV, it's spinoffs, and V are a farcry from the previous set of games, and I think that a lot of people were expecting GTAO to go back to the "old days". It didn't. It's something very new and bold and dare I say experimental, but make no bones about it, it's something that just as is the case with the SP GTA games, something R* wanted to take into a new direction.

 

Does that make GTAO ruin GTA? Maybe to you OP, but not to millions of others out there. Just another case of just because something's not up to your standards it's "bad". Why is that the de facto reaction instead of just saying "I don't like the game", I don't know and never will. But I disagree with you OP...do I ever disagree. If this is where GTA is going, then I'll happily follow.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:53 PM

Just to address my use of capital letters, some people find it annoying, but it's a habit I can't break. I use capitals as a point of EMPHASIS at certain points of my comments. Sorry, I'm not TRYING to be annoying.

You have a lot of emphasis in your posts lol.

 

Anyway, try italics instead of capital letters. It'll make it look better.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:56 PM

you're geting older, debbie.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:59 PM

 

Just to address my use of capital letters, some people find it annoying, but it's a habit I can't break. I use capitals as a point of EMPHASIS at certain points of my comments. Sorry, I'm not TRYING to be annoying.

You have a lot of emphasis in your posts lol.

 

Anyway, try italics instead of capital letters. It'll make it look better.

 

He put the wrong emphASIS on the wrong syllABLE.

 

GTA:O didn't "ruin" anything, any problems you have with GTA 5 are attributable to the devs.  Not the product.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:59 PM Edited by Mattyp1514, 10 March 2014 - 09:05 PM.

Just to address my use of capital letters, some people find it annoying, but it's a habit I can't break. I use capitals as a point of EMPHASIS at certain points of my comments. Sorry, I'm not TRYING to be annoying.

 

 

I worked with a lady who bolded the "important" stuff in an email and that was way worse than what you did.

 

On topic: I agree with everything you said, but a lot of complaints (the empty feeling at times, animals, etc) is mainly due to a few things.  Technical limitations and MMO experience.  You can only work with the limitations of the system, whether or not they are pushing it I don't know.  Would GTAO be better on next gen systems, of course.  However, they went with 360/PS3, so they knew what they were getting into.  

 

The lack of experience I'm not going to hold against them.  Some times it works flawlessly and people just understand how to make MMO's awesome from day one, some don't.  And sometimes it depends on the game itself.  Example is Gearbox.  They hit a homerun with the Borderlands series, but couldn't make Duke Nukem workable on any front when it was already a smashing success in the past.  I'm willing to stay with them through the learning in order to come out the other side with a great game.  But no matter the game, you gotta start some where and at times it's a bumpy road.

 

I also understand why it's less grand theft in online than single player.  If everything is available out of the gates, whats the point in sticking with it in the long run?  There is no replay value.  Well, not none, but far less than if you have to earn things.  The difficulty in making that work is how much earning, and walking the fine line of effort and time or flat out grinding.  Some times it feels like its balanced, other times I hate my life while playing.

 

I love GTAO, it basically dominates my gaming time at this point, and I will be sticking through no matter what.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:01 PM

Well said brother.. well said

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

Well then don't watch the videos and don't play online.  Simple.  You've already bought the game that Rockstar developed  and there isn't anything else to come for a while so why bother getting your knickers in a twist?


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:10 PM

well seeing how the SP dlc has not even been released yet, I think you are jumping the gun. GTAO is full of people who bought the game just to play it online, but why should this surprise you? People have been buying GTA without touching the story since ...well since GTA 1 first released. For some, it's just about the arcade play. I love the SP to death, and beat the game within the first week with 89% done. I can't wait for the SP dlc, so I will be sticking around for a while.  

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:15 PM

Of course you are right. GTA is dead. Don't get your hopes up for GTA VI - as I said few days ago, it will be even worse than GTA V. 


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:16 PM

Of course you are right. GTA is dead. Don't get your hopes up for GTA VI - as I said few days ago, it will be even worse than GTA V. 

I'm glad you can see the future!

 

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:24 PM Edited by Mattyp1514, 10 March 2014 - 09:26 PM.

 

Of course you are right. GTA is dead. Don't get your hopes up for GTA VI - as I said few days ago, it will be even worse than GTA V. 

I'm glad you can see the future!

 

Tell me, when am I gonna strike it rich?

 

There's always irrationality on either side of the love/hate spectrum.  This is why when I buy something with ratings on a 5 star scale, I read 2/3/4 star reviews and write off 1/5.

 

Hes wrong, its far from dead he just doesn't like the game.  So, instead of going quietly or being constructive, he chooses to be a douche about it on a forum for people who like the game.  In the same breath, the game isn't perfect and R* still has some work to do.  Whether or not they do it is more of a concern to me than someone who hates the game telling me to stay grounded about a game thats 4+ years away and hasn't even been considered by the devs.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:26 PM

Plenty of cars you can steal cousin. Come, lets do yoga


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:30 PM

Here we go again...

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:31 PM

Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got them, and yours isn't special.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:40 PM

 

The thing that annoys me the most is if you are an asshole you are punished. (cheater pool etc.)

its Grand THEFT auto not Grand dont be a meanie or we'll punish you auto.

Exactly. They are idiots for that entire design. The main feature of the game revolves around you being a crazy / total bastard to society. This isn't the sims, and yet they want us to act like it is. R*'s tutorial of GTAO: "Oh hey nice bike, I really like red! Come on lets ride together you can sit behind me so your jamming your cock into my ass while we drive along the beach. Oh great idea billy, lets have a romantic drive up to the vineyard where we can take turns blowing each other in the moon light." I mean come on there is nothing to do unless you act like a f*cking asshole in gta. 

 

 

 

I just don't understand the logic behind arguments like this... 

 

You want to act like a total ass in GTA:O, and when you do so, Rockstar sticks you into lobbies with other players that want to act like total asses, so you complain... The way I see it, you should be happy about the arrangement. you want to play like that and Rockstar pairs you up with other players that want to act the same way.... so where is the problem?

 

What most people seem to actually be complaining about is that they want to be like that in lobbies where they are the only ones...  THEY want to be the ones blowing up peoples cars, killing people for no reason, going on tank rampages when everyone else is just trying to do their own thing....

 

If you like a lobby where everyone is just as big a douchebag as you are, then you should be happy about the bad sport lobbies... you can play GTA: Somalia to your hearts content while everyone else goes on about their day playing GTA:O as the developers intended for it to be played...

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:44 PM

Fun Fact:Leslie Benzies Said the Ideas of GTAO has exited since GTA2 (1999).

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:48 PM

Fun Fact:Leslie Benzies Said the Ideas of GTAO has exited since GTA2 (1999).

Actually, it was GTA III (Unless he had multiple interviews and said different things).


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:49 PM Edited by iToor, 10 March 2014 - 09:49 PM.

Fag, get a life


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#84

Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:51 PM

Games with only single player don't last anymore.

 

Skyrim anyone?


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:52 PM

I do enjoy the game thoroughly, SP and Online. I do agree that it's stupid in a game called Grand Theft Auto that we have to buy everything. It doesn't feel like GTA to me but it's not a bad thing. I prefer earning the money and buying things.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:52 PM

 

Games with only single player don't last anymore.

 

Skyrim anyone?

 

That was 2011, and Elder Scrolls Online.

 

Although, yes, his comment was exaggerated, SP only games are dying out.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:59 PM

 

 

This is "Grand THEFT Auto" right? Not "Grand BUY Auto" for f*ck sake.

 

 

Actually, you have a very good point there! 

 

 

Yeah. We should just run around the city, steal a car, get chased by police until they catch or kill us or we get away. Then we need to go steal another car because the old ones tires are missing...then run from the cops again. Once you get away from them, you can steal a blue version of the car you stole because the old one was red and well, f*ck spray painting a car, just f*cking steal another one. Then run from the police. There is absolutely no reason to do anything in this game other than steal cars. Because, it's called Grand Theft Auto...and that means to steal cars. So that's all the game should focus on. Just steal car after car after car...grand thievery style. 

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:01 PM

What was wrong with V's SP? I quite enjoyed it for the 2 weeks before GTA:O went live. But after it did i never went back to SP. Why? Cuz online is much more enjoyable for ME cuz i can play with friends and other live players.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:03 PM

So you're butthurt that people like Online more than SP because SP gets boring quick no matter what game it is?

Most people wouldn't have stuck around for IV if it weren't for the multiplayer. f*ck, pretty much every long-lasting game is because of multiplayer. Burnout, LBP, Battlefield, even COD.

Nobody gives a sh*t about Sleeping Dogs or Just Cause anymore because they have no long-lasting multiplayer. Fun singleplayer, but it doesn't last long because it's singleplayer.

That's all SP is, and that's all SP will ever be. A short playthrough everyone enjoys and that's that.

It's 2014, OP. Move on. If singleplayer only games are so good then why don't you go get a PS2 and play all of those wonderful SP only games?

I dun give a damn about the op, his opinion. But damn skyrim, oblivion, fallouts are very good for sp re playability.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:04 PM

Only read first line, I can judge you're not serious about anything.  If anything ruined GTA 5, its all the complainers from GTA 4.

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