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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:07 PM Edited by xXGst0395Xx, 09 March 2014 - 01:08 PM.

Hey everyone. Just to say, this is not a rant or an attempt to change everyone's thoughs of the game, but rather my own final opinion months after the game's release. I followed the hype train of GTA V since the day it was announced, even staying behind in college to watch trailers and getting overexcited by the few screenshots that were getting released. After spending months with the game however, I have to say that this probably isn't the game it could have been. Especially after Red Dead Redemption which I found to almost perfect and had very little complaints about (aside from the melee system). The setting, story, characters, activities and weapons were implemented all so well, and got me into western movies. Max Payne 3 had flaws (too many cutscenes) but proved to be a solid shooter.

 

I will say that there are some positives. The character movement is alot smoother than it was in GTA IV and RDR, and various mechanics are improved such as the shooting and driving (except for motorcycles which handle stiff). I also liked the return of things that GTA IV lacked such as tanks, planes, rural areas, customization and various weapons like the minigun, but still no flamethrower unfortunately. The world is very big and a blast to explore, with lots of countryside, desert and a detailed caricature of Los Angeles with underground subway tunnels, ghettos, beaches and industrial areas. Other than that though, there just feels like so many things could have been implemented better.

 

The story while I didn't have much of a problem with, was not what I expected. Based on pre-release trailers, I had the feeling that Michael, Franklin and Trevor would have some sort of independence, but instead they are being forced into doing these heists by the FIB. It feels recycled from Red Dead, when John Marston tried to leave behind a life of crime but was forced by federal agents to capture his former partners to win his family back. While Michael does not have his family kidnapped or needs to capture any partners-in-crime, the premise does feel very similar. Again, I thought you'd rule a criminal empire with these heists, not be slaves to the feds.

 

And the lack of interiors, which has been talked about alot. Now, I suppose that modelling them can be time-consuming as far as game development is concerned, but the problem here is that even when interiors are modeled, you can't enter them. The Tequi-la-la is enter-able by Trevor in one Strangers & Freaks mission where you have to obtain Willy's (of Love Fist) gold tooth, which obviously shows that Rockstar made an interior for it. Beside that though, you cannot go back in, not even when Michael purchases it. Speaking of that, the property management feels tacked on. Sure you won't get calls from Roman begging you to go bowling anymore, but now you'll get texts telling you about the sh*tty delivery drivers in Los Santos, so you have to drive all the way to some van and deliver goods yourself. Had there been more stuff like gang shootouts, a bigger income, and the ability to enter properties, this feature would have been much better. Even restaurants aren't even enter-able, which has been in the series since at least Vice City. So much for wanting to re-enact the fast food scene from Falling Down (an iconic L.A based movie that was not referenced once in the game).

 

And the police system which I know many will have heard me complain about before. On the positive, the cops here are more competent than they were in GTA IV, striving to take you down even more. The problem here however is just how over-aggressive they are. You no longer see them patrolling the streets, but rather you'll get their attention by beating up pedestrians or shooting in public e.g. Again, they're trigger-happy freaks who only try to arrest you by pointing their gun. Now of course you can fight back, attracting more police attention. This quickly becomes a problem though as they sometimes spawn faster than they should. They will gun you down very easily because of their improved accuracy and crappy health system. Even if you think you can survive, you can't. They always find a way to screw you over. It is easier when you're with Trevor because of his special ability but even then you'll get shot down pretty fast. I find it very frustrating and have switched off my PS3 more times than I can remember because of it.

 

And the health system, which against police proves to be absolutely useless even with a regenerating system. Previous games had a health upgrade where you could increase your health by 50% or 100% which proved to be helpful. Here the health upgrading is part of the "Strength" stat but even with it maxed out, I've noticed little difference with how easy it is to get gunned down. Not even armor helps as it will get drained by quickly and does not even regenerate like health, speaking of which, I found it especially annoying how you have to stay completely still to let your health grow back, which lets you get exposed to more enemies in the process. 

 

I for one found the shooting to be more fluid than GTA IV in terms of the cover system and aiming, but that's about it. The blood effects feel very downgraded from past Rockstar games, and feel more cartoonish (e.g San Andreas). Max Payne 3 had some of the best blood and gore effects I'd seen, and when you see GTA V's blood effects in comparison, you'll see how much of a downgrade it is. The puddles that corpses leave behind looks good, but really there's just not alot of bloody impact upon shooting enemies. The blood splashes look tame and the wound marks are just red blobs for the most part. Unlike RDR and MP3, enemies will rarely limp away when shot. The Euphoria physics just look "ragdoll" this time and don't look as realistic as they were in even GTA IV. I also thought the weapon sounds weren't very good, and could have been alot better.

 

And finally, the activity variety. I thought it was a joke upon reading that yoga and tennis were going to be activities. I had nothing against bowling in IV, because at least it was fun. In a crime-sandbox however, activities like these feel really pointless. Now I wouldn't have had much of a problem with it if there was a good variety of crime-related activities, but there just isn't. You do get street races (which are too easy), rampages and arms trafficking, two of which can only be accessed by Trevor. GTA IV and EFLC had more for example drug deals, vigilante, gang wars and underground fight clubs. Apparently there was some cool activities that were going to be in GTA V, but I guess Rockstar just decided to cut them all.

 

Maybe I'm nitpicking too much. Believe me though, this is coming from someone who is a big Rockstar fan. I've always supported their work, but I simply feel like GTA V lacks many things that could made it the best one yet. I'm not saying it's a bad game at all, but when you put into consideration the hype that surrounded it and the quality of Red Dead Redemption and Max Payne 3, I feel it could have been more than what it is. I hope you all won't shoot me down for feeling the way I do. Again, the game is great, but I find it vastly overrated and overhyped.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:07 PM

I stopped reading after this brilliant, entirely legitimate complaint.  :rol:

 

 

 

Even restaurants aren't even enter-able, which has been in the series since at least Vice City. So much for wanting to re-enact the fast food scene from Falling Down (an iconic L.A based movie that was not referenced once in the game).

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:08 PM Edited by killahmatic, 09 March 2014 - 08:09 PM.

I'm glad you will never have thoughts on GTAV again. See you when VI comes out.

 

(admittedly, I didn't read any of it. but this feels like a good response)

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:42 PM

Will you come back to gta v when new DLC released?

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:15 PM

Hold on... pshysics were better in IV? Hell f*cking no, I disagree in that part I shot somebody who was sitting in a chair and it bugged the hell out then he fell on the ground, the same happens with everyone who is atleast sitting something in IV, the ragdoll felt more stucked to the ground that any other game.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:19 PM

Dude the way you worded the title seems like your gonna give your last thoughts on V then die.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:30 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 09 March 2014 - 08:30 PM.

You stayed behind in college to watch trailers?

 

That's the definition of overhyping. Of course the game was not gonna be everything you hoped for if you did that.

 

I mean, Jesus dude...


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:45 PM Edited by kipakolonyasi, 09 March 2014 - 09:30 PM.

*generic imbecilic gtaf member post*

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:52 PM Edited by StingrayX, 09 March 2014 - 08:53 PM.

Such replies are why I'm losing faith in posting in this sub-forum. I should go back to the Official Gang Chat or General Chat. There, at least, people do not get berated, belittled, and bashed for their opinions, mostly[not fully] done by those who haven't even put any thought into this thread and/or even read the damn thread at all(killahmatic).

But before I go, I will later reply with my full opinion on your post, I just needed to get this off my chest. This is why I act the way I do to users like Tenxax(Officer Ronson), this is why my posts have gone down hill(MasterFocker), simply because this section is embarrassingly f*cked up by such posts in this thread. How low and imbecilic.
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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:01 PM Edited by Militia, 09 March 2014 - 09:03 PM.

Such replies are why I'm losing faith in posting in this sub-forum. I should go back to the Official Gang Chat or General Chat. There, at least, people do not get berated, belittled, and bashed for their opinions, mostly[not fully] done by those who haven't even put any thought into this thread and/or even read the damn thread at all(killahmatic).

But before I go, I will later reply with my full opinion on your post, I just needed to get this off my chest. This is why I act the way I do to users like Tenxax(Officer Ronson), this is why my posts have gone down hill(MasterFocker), simply because this section is embarrassingly f*cked up by such posts in this thread. How low and imbecilic.

 

Well, you and I both know, this forum is filled with these types of people.  People who find an opinion to be the "be all, end all" of the world.  Basically young kids still in middle school, I'd assume.  It really shows, clearly...

 

Forum is filled with retards and or immature children.  It's the only possible reason.  Talk to any 7-12 year old, they all sound like what these kids do on this forum.

 

It's also why I sound like a dickhead most of the times, too.  Everyone is out for blood on a video gaming forum (so serious, right?) and it's just pathetic.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

Such replies are why I'm losing faith in posting in this sub-forum. 

 

Keep the faith dude, rise above it.  :cool:

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:02 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 09 March 2014 - 09:04 PM.

Such replies are why I'm losing faith in posting in this sub-forum. I should go back to the Official Gang Chat or General Chat. There, at least, people do not get berated, belittled, and bashed for their opinions, mostly[not fully] done by those who haven't even put any thought into this thread and/or even read the damn thread at all(killahmatic).

But before I go, I will later reply with my full opinion on your post, I just needed to get this off my chest. This is why I act the way I do to users like Tenxax(Officer Ronson), this is why my posts have gone down hill(MasterFocker), simply because this section is embarrassingly f*cked up by such posts in this thread. How low and imbecilic.

I would love to know how my post is making your posts go downhill...

 

Especially since there was nothing wrong with my post. Staying behind in college to watch a trailer of a f*cking video game is beyond ridiculous.

 

Are you really gonna disagree on me with that?


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:03 PM

I would love to know how any of this has anything to do with the OP's final thoughts on GTA V.. 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:06 PM

I would love to know how any of this has anything to do with the OP's final thoughts on GTA V.. 

 

This, too.  Most replies are completely off topic, beating around the bush, and not at all to the point.

 

On Topic: I've read it all just 20 minutes ago, and I completely agree, tbh.  GTA V is running thin now a days due to many of the claims you made.  Anyone with a brain could clearly draw this conclusion (Implying most of the people here are brainless).

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:09 PM

I agree with everything you posted. The game is great and all, but where the f*ck are all of the interiors? There were plenty in missions, but R* had to lock them all up supposedly because of "Hardware Limitation* that is no excuse. I wish they would release a patch that would open all of the available interiors, that would be awesome and make the game feel more alive than it already is.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:51 PM Edited by xXGst0395Xx, 09 March 2014 - 09:52 PM.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I agree, maybe the title I put was a bit misleading. Just to say, I will always stay loyal to the GTA series and will definitely look forward to GTA VI, but I can't see myself getting overhyped for it like I did with GTA V. I know some are going to disagree with points that I made and that's perfectly fine. This post was just to address all the things I found wrong with the game since I hadn't played on it nor been on this forum for a while, I just wanted to get it off my chest. Hopefully some great single-player DLC will restore my interest in the game, but I'm just a bit annoyed with how some things weren't in at the start. I don't usually like to sound spoiled, and I definitely appreciate alot of the effort Rockstar made. It just seems to be like they did not focus enough on various key points. I kind of expected the game to be better than it was.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:54 PM Edited by peluche503, 09 March 2014 - 09:58 PM.

Everybody feel free to express your opinion. My final thoughts are I don't really agree with all said besides the lack of interiors and a few other things. But there is still a chance R* can rectify mistakes made by either updating the game's content or just adding all the extra stuff needed if the game is ported to PS4.

 

Because I feel that is not over yet. This great game can still be a little better if Dan Houser starts thinking about us fans that is.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:05 PM

Hey everyone. Just to say, this is not a rant or an attempt to change everyone's thoughs of the game, but rather my own final opinion months after the game's release. I followed the hype train of GTA V since the day it was announced, even staying behind in college to watch trailers and getting overexcited by the few screenshots that were getting released. After spending months with the game however, I have to say that this probably isn't the game it could have been. Especially after Red Dead Redemption which I found to almost perfect and had very little complaints about (aside from the melee system). The setting, story, characters, activities and weapons were implemented all so well, and got me into western movies. Max Payne 3 had flaws (too many cutscenes) but proved to be a solid shooter.

I can relate to this. I didn't get behind in my studies due to V hype, albeit I had begun to gain hype for V when school let out, but I did get excited watching the trailer and every screenshot was a great opportunity for me to analyze it and speculate. It was fun to speculate, especially on this forum around the summer of 2012. Some of my expectations were a tad bit unrealistic, but that is natural as I am only human, but GTA V definitely had some aspects that didn't live up to how Rockstar and the articles advertized them.

 

I will say that there are some positives. The character movement is alot smoother than it was in GTA IV and RDR, and various mechanics are improved such as the shooting and driving (except for motorcycles which handle stiff). I also liked the return of things that GTA IV lacked such as tanks, planes, rural areas, customization and various weapons like the minigun, but still no flamethrower unfortunately. The world is very big and a blast to explore, with lots of countryside, desert and a detailed caricature of Los Angeles with underground subway tunnels, ghettos, beaches and industrial areas. Other than that though, there just feels like so many things could have been implemented better.

I agree and admit that there were some great improvements made like the player motions and the addition of features that lacked in IV. I personally dislike the driving physics of V though and the shooting also feels less exciting, but that is just my preference, I prefer IV physics and different shooting. I also thought the graphics were superb yet the layout of the map was a little crappy and made the world feel less big and less secluded. That also is just my opinion and I agree that things could have been implemented better.

 

The story while I didn't have much of a problem with, was not what I expected. Based on pre-release trailers, I had the feeling that Michael, Franklin and Trevor would have some sort of independence, but instead they are being forced into doing these heists by the FIB. It feels recycled from Red Dead, when John Marston tried to leave behind a life of crime but was forced by federal agents to capture his former partners to win his family back. While Michael does not have his family kidnapped or needs to capture any partners-in-crime, the premise does feel very similar. Again, I thought you'd rule a criminal empire with these heists, not be slaves to the feds.

The story did keep me intrigued and yes the missions were fun, but I did have a problem with the way everything played out and the endings felt rushed and just so cheap. Rockstar made it seem like these characters were just getting together to do heists for money and the thrill of it. In reality though, they were just the governments bitch and that was something hidden that we should have known instead of being hidden from it. A story where you did heists for thrill and money would have been far, far much better than being a bitch for the government and that is just how I feel about that. The heists weren't my favorite parts of the story because of that. Also because they felt too easy like my hand was being held through it all.

 

And the lack of interiors, which has been talked about alot. Now, I suppose that modelling them can be time-consuming as far as game development is concerned, but the problem here is that even when interiors are modeled, you can't enter them. The Tequi-la-la is enter-able by Trevor in one Strangers & Freaks mission where you have to obtain Willy's (of Love Fist) gold tooth, which obviously shows that Rockstar made an interior for it. Beside that though, you cannot go back in, not even when Michael purchases it. Speaking of that, the property management feels tacked on. Sure you won't get calls from Roman begging you to go bowling anymore, but now you'll get texts telling you about the sh*tty delivery drivers in Los Santos, so you have to drive all the way to some van and deliver goods yourself. Had there been more stuff like gang shootouts, a bigger income, and the ability to enter properties, this feature would have been much better. Even restaurants aren't even enter-able, which has been in the series since at least Vice City. So much for wanting to re-enact the fast food scene from Falling Down (an iconic L.A based movie that was not referenced once in the game).

I strongly agree with this and the reason why I love interiors is because they do help me get immersed when it comes to exploring a city. Rockstar does them extremely well and its just fun and intriguing to explore every last detail of them. So when I found out restaurants were gone and you could not buy any houses in V, I cringed. That last part was not just because I really wanted to buy houses, but because Rockstar said in articles and showed in their first official gameplay trailer, that was only focused on Single-Player until 04:32, that we could buy residential property. Now you can only buy business property that serves no purpose whatsoever other than revenue and they have no interiors which is insulting to me. Revenue? Sounds good, but after $1,000,000,000 money becomes boring in this game and you have nothing huge to spend it on besides cars and planes and other useless businesses. Here is what I posted in a different topic that explains how I feel about the lack of interiors and why I like interiors and why its ludicrous that people think those that want interiors are just desparate for stuff to whine about:

 

"The city really is the main problem for me. Its like an attractive car that does not drive. Its intriguing to gawk at but when it comes to getting immersed- well- you can't. The lack of restaurants, clubs, hell even house interiors to explore, it feels boring. People ask all of the time "Why do you want/need interiors?" Well my question to that question is: If you visited a city to tour it and get immersed, would you not want to enter a few interesting buildings, eat in a unique restaurant, and/or enter random shops just to look? Or would just stay outside 24/7, only looking at a building wishing, "It would be lovely to go in there, but no." huh?"

 

And the police system which I know many will have heard me complain about before. On the positive, the cops here are more competent than they were in GTA IV, striving to take you down even more. The problem here however is just how over-aggressive they are. You no longer see them patrolling the streets, but rather you'll get their attention by beating up pedestrians or shooting in public e.g. Again, they're trigger-happy freaks who only try to arrest you by pointing their gun. Now of course you can fight back, attracting more police attention. This quickly becomes a problem though as they sometimes spawn faster than they should. They will gun you down very easily because of their improved accuracy and crappy health system. Even if you think you can survive, you can't. They always find a way to screw you over. It is easier when you're with Trevor because of his special ability but even then you'll get shot down pretty fast. I find it very frustrating and have switched off my PS3 more times than I can remember because of it.

IV had weak and easy to escape cops and that was a problem. V adds more aggressive cops and that is cool and all except for the fact that they can rubberband during police chases, pop out of nowhere even more so than in IV, automatically know when you commit a crime, ram you with tremendous force during chases no matter what you drive, are trigger happy, and arrest you simply for standing still. That last part is true. Back in October, I was doing one of my last missions that had a secret benefit for investing in stocks and whilst my money was slowly but steadily rolling in, I went for a ride in the subways. I exited one and went to stand by a wall. I went downstairs in real life to go do something and when I came back upstairs, I was standing in front of the police station with no weapons and it was too late for me to take my stock money. I had to load and redo the mission all because I got arrested, for standing still... what the hell. The cops aren't too hard, they're just pyschotic and downright annoying. They're more fun to stay away from them be chased by. They're so aggravating that I wish they were just gone.

 

And the health system, which against police proves to be absolutely useless even with a regenerating system. Previous games had a health upgrade where you could increase your health by 50% or 100% which proved to be helpful. Here the health upgrading is part of the "Strength" stat but even with it maxed out, I've noticed little difference with how easy it is to get gunned down. Not even armor helps as it will get drained by quickly and does not even regenerate like health, speaking of which, I found it especially annoying how you have to stay completely still to let your health grow back, which lets you get exposed to more enemies in the process. 

The health is weak even with armor and regeneration and it is too easy to die, but this bothers me the least except for in police chases where I just want to have long-term fun.

 

I for one found the shooting to be more fluid than GTA IV in terms of the cover system and aiming, but that's about it. The blood effects feel very downgraded from past Rockstar games, and feel more cartoonish (e.g San Andreas). Max Payne 3 had some of the best blood and gore effects I'd seen, and when you see GTA V's blood effects in comparison, you'll see how much of a downgrade it is. The puddles that corpses leave behind looks good, but really there's just not alot of bloody impact upon shooting enemies. The blood splashes look tame and the wound marks are just red blobs for the most part. Unlike RDR and MP3, enemies will rarely limp away when shot. The Euphoria physics just look "ragdoll" this time and don't look as realistic as they were in even GTA IV. I also thought the weapon sounds weren't very good, and could have been alot better.

I completely agree with this albeit the shooting sound effects were horrible in my opinion.

 

And finally, the activity variety. I thought it was a joke upon reading that yoga and tennis were going to be activities. I had nothing against bowling in IV, because at least it was fun. In a crime-sandbox however, activities like these feel really pointless. Now I wouldn't have had much of a problem with it if there was a good variety of crime-related activities, but there just isn't. You do get street races (which are too easy), rampages and arms trafficking, two of which can only be accessed by Trevor. GTA IV and EFLC had more for example drug deals, vigilante, gang wars and underground fight clubs. Apparently there was some cool activities that were going to be in GTA V, but I guess Rockstar just decided to cut them all.

I only really care about the street races and they were very weak indeed. I wish Rockstar would have been more creative. Clubbing in TBoGT was fun and Rockstar were stupid for not returning such a feature.

 

Well that is my opinion on your post. Some very valid points were made and I too felt V could have been a bit better in terms of gameplay and story. Maybe even variety. Overall, I'd give V a decent but not great 7.2 out of 10.

 

Such replies are why I'm losing faith in posting in this sub-forum. I should go back to the Official Gang Chat or General Chat. There, at least, people do not get berated, belittled, and bashed for their opinions, mostly[not fully] done by those who haven't even put any thought into this thread and/or even read the damn thread at all(killahmatic).

But before I go, I will later reply with my full opinion on your post, I just needed to get this off my chest. This is why I act the way I do to users like Tenxax(Officer Ronson), this is why my posts have gone down hill(MasterFocker), simply because this section is embarrassingly f*cked up by such posts in this thread. How low and imbecilic.

I would love to know how my post is making your posts go downhill...

 

Especially since there was nothing wrong with my post. Staying behind in college to watch a trailer of a f*cking video game is beyond ridiculous.

 

Are you really gonna disagree on me with that?

 

Whilst I agree that it is a bit over the top, theres nothing unusual about a long-term fan of GTA getting hyped for such a big, ambitious game. I too got excited over images and analyzed them. I didn't make ridiculous assumptions based from them, I was just intrigued by the detail Rockstar put in them and it got me excited to explore the game when it came out.

 

Posts like yours, which was minimum and rude, are the reason I act like a douche sometimes because it gets tiring to see a detailed thread with an opinion get bashed.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:15 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 09 March 2014 - 10:23 PM.

I was also excited when trailers/gameplay came out. But doing what he did because of it? It's just extreme.

 

I wasn't trying to be rude, really. I was just flabbergasted that he went that far for a trailer of a video game.

 

Sorry if it came out the wrong way OP :/


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:17 PM Edited by SingularSoul, 09 March 2014 - 10:19 PM.

Hey everyone. Just to say, this is not a rant or an attempt to change everyone's thoughs of the game, but rather my own final opinion months after the game's release. I followed the hype train of GTA V since the day it was announced, even staying behind in college to watch trailers and getting overexcited by the few screenshots that were getting released. After spending months with the game however, I have to say that this probably isn't the game it could have been. Especially after Red Dead Redemption which I found to almost perfect and had very little complaints about (aside from the melee system). The setting, story, characters, activities and weapons were implemented all so well, and got me into western movies. Max Payne 3 had flaws (too many cutscenes) but proved to be a solid shooter.

 

I will say that there are some positives. The character movement is alot smoother than it was in GTA IV and RDR, and various mechanics are improved such as the shooting and driving (except for motorcycles which handle stiff). I also liked the return of things that GTA IV lacked such as tanks, planes, rural areas, customization and various weapons like the minigun, but still no flamethrower unfortunately. The world is very big and a blast to explore, with lots of countryside, desert and a detailed caricature of Los Angeles with underground subway tunnels, ghettos, beaches and industrial areas. Other than that though, there just feels like so many things could have been implemented better.

 

The story while I didn't have much of a problem with, was not what I expected. Based on pre-release trailers, I had the feeling that Michael, Franklin and Trevor would have some sort of independence, but instead they are being forced into doing these heists by the FIB. It feels recycled from Red Dead, when John Marston tried to leave behind a life of crime but was forced by federal agents to capture his former partners to win his family back. While Michael does not have his family kidnapped or needs to capture any partners-in-crime, the premise does feel very similar. Again, I thought you'd rule a criminal empire with these heists, not be slaves to the feds.

 

And the lack of interiors, which has been talked about alot. Now, I suppose that modelling them can be time-consuming as far as game development is concerned, but the problem here is that even when interiors are modeled, you can't enter them. The Tequi-la-la is enter-able by Trevor in one Strangers & Freaks mission where you have to obtain Willy's (of Love Fist) gold tooth, which obviously shows that Rockstar made an interior for it. Beside that though, you cannot go back in, not even when Michael purchases it. Speaking of that, the property management feels tacked on. Sure you won't get calls from Roman begging you to go bowling anymore, but now you'll get texts telling you about the sh*tty delivery drivers in Los Santos, so you have to drive all the way to some van and deliver goods yourself. Had there been more stuff like gang shootouts, a bigger income, and the ability to enter properties, this feature would have been much better. Even restaurants aren't even enter-able, which has been in the series since at least Vice City. So much for wanting to re-enact the fast food scene from Falling Down (an iconic L.A based movie that was not referenced once in the game).

 

And the police system which I know many will have heard me complain about before. On the positive, the cops here are more competent than they were in GTA IV, striving to take you down even more. The problem here however is just how over-aggressive they are. You no longer see them patrolling the streets, but rather you'll get their attention by beating up pedestrians or shooting in public e.g. Again, they're trigger-happy freaks who only try to arrest you by pointing their gun. Now of course you can fight back, attracting more police attention. This quickly becomes a problem though as they sometimes spawn faster than they should. They will gun you down very easily because of their improved accuracy and crappy health system. Even if you think you can survive, you can't. They always find a way to screw you over. It is easier when you're with Trevor because of his special ability but even then you'll get shot down pretty fast. I find it very frustrating and have switched off my PS3 more times than I can remember because of it.

 

And the health system, which against police proves to be absolutely useless even with a regenerating system. Previous games had a health upgrade where you could increase your health by 50% or 100% which proved to be helpful. Here the health upgrading is part of the "Strength" stat but even with it maxed out, I've noticed little difference with how easy it is to get gunned down. Not even armor helps as it will get drained by quickly and does not even regenerate like health, speaking of which, I found it especially annoying how you have to stay completely still to let your health grow back, which lets you get exposed to more enemies in the process. 

 

I for one found the shooting to be more fluid than GTA IV in terms of the cover system and aiming, but that's about it. The blood effects feel very downgraded from past Rockstar games, and feel more cartoonish (e.g San Andreas). Max Payne 3 had some of the best blood and gore effects I'd seen, and when you see GTA V's blood effects in comparison, you'll see how much of a downgrade it is. The puddles that corpses leave behind looks good, but really there's just not alot of bloody impact upon shooting enemies. The blood splashes look tame and the wound marks are just red blobs for the most part. Unlike RDR and MP3, enemies will rarely limp away when shot. The Euphoria physics just look "ragdoll" this time and don't look as realistic as they were in even GTA IV. I also thought the weapon sounds weren't very good, and could have been alot better.

 

And finally, the activity variety. I thought it was a joke upon reading that yoga and tennis were going to be activities. I had nothing against bowling in IV, because at least it was fun. In a crime-sandbox however, activities like these feel really pointless. Now I wouldn't have had much of a problem with it if there was a good variety of crime-related activities, but there just isn't. You do get street races (which are too easy), rampages and arms trafficking, two of which can only be accessed by Trevor. GTA IV and EFLC had more for example drug deals, vigilante, gang wars and underground fight clubs. Apparently there was some cool activities that were going to be in GTA V, but I guess Rockstar just decided to cut them all.

 

Maybe I'm nitpicking too much. Believe me though, this is coming from someone who is a big Rockstar fan. I've always supported their work, but I simply feel like GTA V lacks many things that could made it the best one yet. I'm not saying it's a bad game at all, but when you put into consideration the hype that surrounded it and the quality of Red Dead Redemption and Max Payne 3, I feel it could have been more than what it is. I hope you all won't shoot me down for feeling the way I do. Again, the game is great, but I find it vastly overrated and overhyped.

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Spot on. 100% agreed with everything you said.

Frankly, I've fallen out of love with V a little in recent times, and your points correlate with why I feel the way I do about the game.

Such a shame to see people trying to belittle your opinions.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:27 PM Edited by gtaxpert, 09 March 2014 - 11:44 PM.

I'm glad you will never have thoughts on GTAV again. See you when VI comes out.

 

(admittedly, I didn't read any of it. but this feels like a good response)

 

This reply is what is wrong with this forum sometimes.. Big mouth, didn't even read.

 

Well, I'll give my opinion on V then. The story was oke. GTA games generally have pretty generic stories, but this one had a very uninspiring antagonist (Devin Weston), which was disappointing. What matters to me much more than story is whether the characters were good. Though I think V's characters were good, when I compare them to the list of IV characters I come to the conclusion that those were slightly better.

 

Gameplay: The first few days I was incredibly frustrated by the lack of mission markers and that I could not enter my house and save with a character without watching some weather sequence and starting a mission. I eventually found quick save which is great which solved the marker problem, and I got used to the stupid weather sequence... The driving annoyed me at first. I was bored by the arcady handling. Now that I've gotten used to it I like it though, because of the majorly improved vehicle speeds. I tend to drive fully tuned vehicles now and they are really a lot of fun. IV's cars were kind of sluggish acceleration wise and had terrible top speed. So a lot of things that annoyed me, I got used to eventually.

 

I don't have much to say about the shooting except that I think that it's good and improved from IV. The health regeneration was annoying at first, but I got used to it, and it does put you on edge more during missions because you can die quicker. It's not better than the previous system per se, but it's different, and it's good. The search for health packs took away mission pace. To keep the pace R* made regenerative health. It makes sense. The three character system was amazing. They really made it work.

 

A more general remark about the gameplay. What struck me was that the changes R* made to the gameplay. Be it stupid weather sequences, regenerative health, lack of mission markers, arcady handling... etc... Most of those changes were made to make everything feel more fluent, high paced and cinematic. Some of those changes changed classic GTA gameplay elements, and it took a while to get used to, but I'm not negative per se about the changes, and I understand them, though they probably need some more future tweaking.

 

The lack of interiors and the lack of sense that the map is big compared to SA because there's only one city are things people have often elaborated upon and I don't think anybody needs to hear about it much more (I agree with those points). The police spawning could definitely be toned down too. I agree.

Some missions, like the towing missions and the paparazzi one's were terrible. Most other missions were enjoyable and good. I remember that when I had the game for a week or so and had just completed towing and parazzi, upon the idea that more missions would be this bad, I felt like breaking the disc in half. Luckily I found out how great the rest of the game was. I like the stock market. I think that's a well done feature. I like the cars R* made, but they should've included much more different low end cars from IV (or new ones). There are too much supercars roaming the streets. And the fact that car modification is included is a dream come true.

 

I'm annoyed that they made so much missions for online though. They should've kept missions for singleplayer, and multiplayer for online. And I'm pissed off about the DLC exclusives for the expensive editions of the game, though the free dlc's are very nice.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:34 PM

Yeah, the fact that here are some interiors made but not enterable in free roam is beyond my comprehension.

 

Also, I agree with the part you said about cops respawning too fast. They simply never stop spawning. If you are in a dead end and killing cops while taking cover, unless you are Trevor you are going to die 99% of the times, and even with Trevor  it's still quite hard, like you need a car and once you hit the "enter" button the special hability turns off and you die once you opened the door. It's just bullsh*t. And about the health, yeah, it's crap too. I understand they wanted to make the game challenging, but giving you a sh*tty health bar so you have to hide all the time is not so fun. GTA is getting more realistic in certain aspects, and I just wish they stopped with that and went back to trying to make a real free roaming game instead of a unrealistic-realistic hybrid. But back at the health bar, yeah, the classic health system was much better, along with the fact that medkits and armor were scattered around the map in a higher quantity, instead of the extremely rare medkits in V.

 

I still think V is the best GTA, but of course, it has some unacceptable flaws.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:11 PM

OP i am sorry for being off topic at this comment,
GTA2 (1999) was released originally on PS1 and PC,
PS1 was a 5th Gen Console, but was ported to
Dreamcast which was a 6th Gen console like PS2...
btw it was GTA Wiki that made me get this,so i am sure 15 years later GTA 5 can repeat this same thing by re-releasing on Next-Gen.
Okay On topic now,OP i think V is a masterpiece imo even though it has it flaws etc.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:23 PM

I mostly don't agree but at least you said it without calling those who like V the best casuals and fourteen year olds. We all have our opinions.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:25 PM Edited by Official General, 09 March 2014 - 11:27 PM.

You stayed behind in college to watch trailers?

 

That's the definition of overhyping. Of course the game was not gonna be everything you hoped for if you did that.

 

I mean, Jesus dude...

 

What's wrong with that ?? Whats the difference between using a PC at home or college to watch a video game trailer ?? And how on earth do you see that as overhyping ?? Seriously, this baffles the life out of me :blink:  

 

In your ever-continuing quest to defend Rockstar and become their unofficial PR guru, you do come up with the most dumbest comments sometimes. Especially when you try to come off as smart or funny, you just end up with egg on your face  :dontgetit:

 

On topic, OP you are right about everything. Your opinion echoes that of many others on here, and this has been the sentiment for sometime since V came out. The game is just not as great as many of us imagined it to be, many of us agree with you, including myself. 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:27 PM

I liked the Tennis and Golf better than the Bowling and Underground Fights in EFLC tbh


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:32 PM

I liked the Tennis and Golf better than the Bowling and Underground Fights in EFLC tbh


In TBoGT you mean,EFLC is the compilation of the two episodic Installments (TLAD and TBoGT) :)

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:34 PM Edited by peluche503, 10 March 2014 - 12:24 AM.

I liked the Tennis and Golf better than the Bowling and Underground Fights in EFLC tbh

 

Tennis was better than bowling because you could actually feel the other character putting effort into the game. Bowling was boring it was almost cutscene after cutscene almost like yoga but pool was just awesome. Underground fights were great and I feel like they should have included this in V, especially with Trevor who's a guy who likes to brawl.

 

But they were part TBOGT, so I don't count them, in fact I don't count any of the DLC content of IV. Whenever I make comparisons I compared only IV and V, DLC not included.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:35 PM

I didn't mind the Tennis. Every GTA since SA has had sporting activities so why is it so bad that V has it? Yoga was completely pointless though. This is one thing the critics have right.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:46 PM Edited by TheMasterfocker, 09 March 2014 - 11:50 PM.

 

You stayed behind in college to watch trailers?

 

That's the definition of overhyping. Of course the game was not gonna be everything you hoped for if you did that.

 

I mean, Jesus dude...

 

What's wrong with that ?? Whats the difference between using a PC at home or college to watch a video game trailer ?? And how on earth do you see that as overhyping ?? Seriously, this baffles the life out of me :blink:  

 

In your ever-continuing quest to defend Rockstar and become their unofficial PR guru, you do come up with the most dumbest comments sometimes. Especially when you try to come off as smart or funny, you just end up with egg on your face  :dontgetit:

 

On topic, OP you are right about everything. Your opinion echoes that of many others on here, and this has been the sentiment for sometime since V came out. The game is just not as great as many of us imagined it to be, many of us agree with you, including myself. 

 

What's wrong with that? You see nothing wrong with staying behind at college, instead of going home or something, to watch a trailer for a video game?

 

If you don't find anything wrong with that, then this conversation's just over.

 

I also don't see me defending R* anywhere in that post, so your continuing goal to put words in my mouth (3 times now!) seems to be going well, I guess.





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